QUODCUMQUE  FACIENDUM : NIMIS  FACIEMUS

The

Bristol

Exploration Club, The Belfry,

Wells
Road
, Priddy, Nr. Wells, Som.  Telephone: Wells 72126.

The views expressed by contributors to the Belfry Bulletin,
including those of club officers, are not necessarily the views of the
committee of the Bristol Exploration Club or the Editor, unless so stated.  The Editor cannot guarantee that the accuracy
of information contained in the contributed matter, as it cannot normally be
checked in the time at his disposal.

Swildon’s hole

Pete and Alison Hooper (yes
they’re now wed and we offer them our sincere best wishes even though they are
members of that club at the top of Eastwater Lane – the Wxxxxx!) have made
their mark yet again in Swildon’s.  After
a number of digging trips they have found a passage leading off Shatter Chamber
towards the Seven streamway.   It is said
to be about 150ft long and quite bouldery at the end.  The mud stirred up on the stream in the
passage emerges under the first boulder pile in the Seven streamway.  Although they were digging at another point
the stream they have found what must be the one the SMCC heard, and dug for,
way back in the early ‘70’s.

Ian Dear M.F.

Nick Thorne has again been
awarded £50 to cover part of his expenses to

Austria
this month.  Members will remember that he was there last
year with the Cambridge University Speleos and the result of their work was
published in the September 1978 issue of the Belfry Bulletin.

Programme of meets organised by Dave Metcalfe

12th August Little Hull/Hunt Pot
– Two potholes within a short distance of each other providing good SRT trips.

8th ~September Grange Rigg Pot –
An interesting pot with succession of wet pitches and crawls to the terminal
sumps.

30th September Dale Head Pot – A
fine pot, but requiring plenty of energy to transport tackle through the
initial entrance crawls to the

Main
Route
.  From
there the pitches following in quick succession.

14th October – Eldon Hole
(Derbyshire)

20th October Stream Passage Pot –
Roomy pot with big pitches leading to stream chamber, sand caverns and Gaping
Gill Main Chamber.

25th November Pippikin Pot – an
arduous pot with tight squeezes and dry entrance passages and pitches leading
to a couple of steam inlets and chambers totalling 4 miles.

Editorial notes

This month sees, I hope, an improvement in the quality of
the B. B. as far as the printing is concerned. Back in November 1977 the club purchased 100 reams of bond paper from
Tony Corrigan at an extremely cheap price – so cheap in fact that he could not
afford to let it slip through our hands. Anyway, as you will all know, bond paper is not sufficiently absorbent
for the gestetner stencil printing process and so ‘off-sets’, sometimes badly,
on the back face of the sheet.  I hope
that the collating team have been selective and not included bad cases in your
B.B.  If they have, please accept our
apologies.

We have now found a supplier in the

London
area who has let us have one hundred
reams of Croxley duplicating paper at £1.74 a ream – remarkably cheap
considering the retail price in Wells for the same stuff is about £4.50 a
ream!  Two further price rises were in
the pipeline including the VAT increase anticipated at the Budget and luckily
Martin Grass got the order placed three or four days before that took
place.  The price was £2.20 a ream but
providing we collected the paper we could have 20% off.  Thanks to Martin he went and collected the
quarter ton load.  Anyway its here on
Mendip and hopefully the presentation has a reasonable improvement.

JULY B.B. This issue concentrates mainly on club business in
readiness for the 1979 AGM October.  The
minutes of the 1978 AGM are included (thanks to Fiona for typing them) and all
the available information from Sue Tucker, our Hon. Treasurer, necessary to
determine the future subscription rate. A breakdown of these figures per member is given and should give people
a good indication of the size of the sub required.  The Committee will be making up mind at the
August meeting on Friday 3rd August at the Belfry, when they will formulate a
resolution to the AGM.

NEW COVERS: Thanks to Garth Dell for the production of the
new cover.  He’s printed them on paper to
assist in keeping the postal charges down when the B.B. size is over 17
pages.  7,000 covers have been printed
which should give us two years supply. My apologies for a lack of cover for the June issue but when I came to
print there were only thirty or so left in the pile – the remainder were
backing sheets.

 

Letter To The Editor

from an old friend John Stafford (to younger members he’s
the Stafford of the
Stafford‘s Boulder Problem
in Cuthbert’s)

Dear Dave,

Have just returned from holiday in Torridon and Skye and
felt that there may be members who would be interested to hear that new
licensed premises have opened in a very strategic position for climbers and
ridge walkers in the Black Coullin area.

‘The Old Inn’, Carbost, is run by Steve and Deidre Cooper
supplying food, booze and B&B halfway Glenbrittle and Sligachan.

Officially it is a licensed restaurant but the purchase of a
sandwich permits one to booze all evening. In actual fact some of the locals appear to have permanent personal
sandwiches which are put out for them when they arrive and then cleared away
for use again next evening.

For those who actually want food there is a selection of
‘basket’ meals prices which are reasonable for the area.

My firm is moving me to

Kent
next month so I hope to be on
Mendip more often in the future than I have over the past few years.

Regards to all,

Yours aye,

John Stafford.

P.S. Is my 16 year old son eligible to apply for Junior
Membership when we move south?  Yes, Ed.
Looking forward to seeing you again.

 

Club Notes

compiled by ‘Wig’

Tim Large has given me the menu for the dinner at the
Caveman on October 6th 1979.  Note the
new times: 7pm for 8pm which gives plenty of time for people to get their third
pint in before the meal!

ANNUAL DINNER MENU

Minestrone Soup or
Fruit Juice

——————

Roast Ribs of Beef
& Yorkshire Pudding

Chateaux &
Parsley Potatoes

Garden Peas and
Brussel Sprouts

—————–

Fruit Salad & Ice
Cream OR

Ripple and Raspberry
Tart (hot)

—————–

Cheese and Biscuits

——————

Coffee

NB: Red wine (1
bottle between two)

Sue Tucker has given me the following notes:

Annual Dinner Tickets will be available soon.  The Committee have put a limit on numbers of
140 so get your NUMBERED ticket from Sue as quickly as possible.  Please enclose an S.A.E. with your
order.  Price for the dinner is £4.50
each.  Sue’s address is:

Mrs. S. Tucker,
75 Lower Whitelands,
Tyning,
Radstock,
Avon.
Telephone: Radstock 35165

Subscriptions:

Sue writes, again (!) that would members send their subs to
her and not give them to the Hut Warden as this results in delays and much
confusion when sending out the BB’s.  Sue
sends her apologies to anyone who has had a reminder on their BB but has already
paid (blame it on clerical errors!)

1979 ANNUAL GENERAL MEETING – official announce of
the date———

The meeting will be held at the Belfry commencing at
10.30am.  The usual lunch of bread end
cheese and beer will be laid on.  Members
wishing to change the constitution should let Tim Large have the resolutions so
that they can be circulated to all members with the August B.B.  The new constitution is included with this
issue of the B.B.

Nominations for the 1979/80 Club Committee is now called
for; the closing date will be 8th September. Please send your nominations to Tim Large, c/o The Belfry,

Wells Road
, Priddy,

Somerset
.

Welcome to the following new or rejoined ‘old’ members:

753 Sue Jago, West Cottage,

Church Lane
,
Farrington Guerney,
Avon.
648 Dave Glover, c/o Leisure, Pamber Green, nr.
Basingstoke,
Hants.
779 Jim Durston, ‘Hill View’, Old Beat, Maidendown, nr. Burlescombe,
Devon

Address changes:

878 Ross White, P038389Y, 5
Troop, B. Company, 40 Commando Royal Marines,
Northern
Ireland
, BFPO 802
935 Lynne Williams,

10 Silver
Street
, Wells,

Somerset
.

Thirty Odd Years Ago

March 20th, 1943 – first trip after re-organisation of
Club.  A trip to Goatchurch.  Party went through Drainpipe and examined
lowest chamber thoroughly.

A dog marooned half-way up Rock of Ages was rescued by T.
Stanbury and C. Drummond.

Members present: – T.H. Stanbury,
C. Drummond, D.W. Jones, G. Tait, T. Ward and T. Charles.

3rd April 1943. A trip by cycle to Swildon’s Hole.  The Club made its first test of wire and
duralumin ladder on 40ft. pot and found that the ladders exceeded all
expectations.  On return journey met
party of 7 men and 2 girls in Upper Grotto and took them cut as they were lost.

Members present: – T.H. Stanbury.
C. Drummond, D. Hasell.

These extracts are from Volume One of the caving log and
show that the B.E.C we first again – this is the earliest record of electron
ladders being used in the

UK
.  The UBSS are usually credited with this
record about 1946.  This extract from the
caving log just shows the importance of keeping a good, detailed log.

AN EXILE RETURNS TO MENDIP.  Oliver Wells has recently paid a visit to
Mendip with his son, James.  Caving has
been the priority before he gets too old. Anyway, to make up for list time they both got cracking and descended
Swildon’s to Sump 2 with Phil Davies. 

Wayne
, of the MCG accompanied
them down G.B. and ‘Wig’ down Cuthbert’s together with Don Thomson and his son,
Justin.  When not kipping on old friend’s
floor, Oliver stayed at the Belfry and met and talked with current Belfryites.

AUSTRIA
1979
– Graham W-J, ‘Jayrat’ and about 14 others will be on their way to

Austria

by the time you read this B.B. and pushing a number of holes left unfinished
last year above the south wall of the Dachstein.  No doubt we shall be having all the news from
Graham for the September or October B.B.


CORNWALL

is a dangerous place – according to the Gospel of Chris Batstone.  On holiday in

Cornwall
with Sue Jago and kids plus Stu
Linseys boy Chris, managed to write off not only his aging car but a ‘J’
registered Jaguar as well.  Though shaken
up there were apparently was no serious injury except for one of the children
who suffered a cut requiring stitches.

The ‘Hippies’ return to Mendip:

About 400 Hippies are at the Mineries Pool area at the time
of writing and another 400 is said to be expected.  Lord Waldegrave has given them permission to
stay but the local ‘bobbies’ are keeping a wary eye on them.  The MRO store has been stripped of the useful
essentials in the way of medical goods and for the time being these are being
kept at Wig’s.  Apparently they have
already set up a stage of sorts and one wonders if there will be a ‘Pop
Festival’ on the Priddy agenda!

 

Minutes Of The 1978 Annual General Meeting

The meeting was held at the Belfry on Saturday 7th October
1978 and convened by the Hon. Secretary Tim Large. A quorum being present the
meeting was opened at 2.10pm.  The Hon.
Secretary asked for nominations for a chairman. Alan Thomas and Colin Dooley were
nominated from the floor.  A vote was
taken and Alan Thomas was elected.

The chairman then asked for any outstanding ballot papers
and members resolutions.  Also
nominations for three tellers were requested. Sett, Garth Dell and Angela Dooley were elected.  Roy Bennett proposed a vote of thanks to the
constitution sub-committee (Kangy, Mike Palmer and John Turner) for their
work.  Seconded by Alan Thomas.  Motion carried.  The chairman said that the A.G.M. was a place
to air grievances about the club or ‘forever hold thy peace’.  He also pointed out that if anyone was
unhappy with any point of the meeting he/she should say so then and have the
matter righted immediately if the matter was justified.  It was no good complaining when the meeting
had ended.

It was proposed by Dave Irwin and seconded by Martin Grass
that the 1977 A.G.M. minutes be taken as read. This was carried without dissent. The chairman asked if there were any matters arising from these minutes,
which had been published prior to the meeting.

Dave Irwin then said that the B.B. Editors and Treasurers
reports for 1977 had not been adopted. Be proposed that they were now adopted, seconded by Joan Bennett
-carried unanimously.

Barrie Wilton said that he would like to see the club formally
express thanks to Alfie for his many years of service to the club, particularly
as B.B. editor.  Kengy suggested a formal
letter of thanks to Alfie.  Barrie Wilton
then proposed that a formal vote of thanks be given to Alfie for his services
to the club and a letter sent to him to that effect, seconded by King.  Carried unanimously.

Tim Large pointed out that last year there was a problem
with outstanding Belfry fees.  Chris
Batstone said that there were a few outstanding but the position was considerably
better than last year.

Joan Bennett said that as the club auditor she was much
happier with the present position although some stronger action should be taken
with persistent debtors.  Some discussion
took place, the general theme being that something should be done to discourage
Belfry debts in future.  Joan Bennett
proposed that stronger action be taken against Belfry debtors, at the
discretion of the committee in order that these debts are retrieved, seconded
by Barrie Wilton – carried unanimously.

Joan Bennett then proposed, seconded by Nigel Taylor that
the minutes be adopted.  Carried
unanimously.

The Hon. Secretary’s report had been published and was taken
as read.  The chairman asked the Hon.
Secretary if be had anything further to add. Tim Large said he had no further comment to make.  Dave Irwin proposed, seconded by Tom Temple,
that the Hon. Secretary’s report be adopted – motion carried.

The Hon. Treasurer’s report was published and available at
the meeting.  The chairman asked the Hon.
Treasurer if he bad any comments to make. Barrie Wilton said he had nothing to add.  Bob Cross asked why £247 had been spent on
spares this year with only a small sales figure. 

Barrie

explained that much of this figure had been spent on the clubs purchase of
caving boots which were in the course of being sold.  Although some boots had been sold, the
accounts closed before the money was received. Dave Irwin proposed seconded by Joan Bennett that the Hon. Treasurers
report be adopted and a vote of thanks to

Barrie

for his services to the club.  Carried
unanimously.

The Auditors report then followed, being previously
published.  Joan Bennett said the books
showed a fair account of the club s financial position.  The meeting then adopted the Auditor’s report
for the coming year.

The Caving Secretary’s report followed this had been
previously published in the B.B.  Nigel
Taylor said he held nothing to add.  Tom
Temple proposed, seconded by Chris Batstone that the Caving Secretary’s report
be adopted.  Carried without dissent.

The Climbing Secretary’s report was taken next, being
published the B.B.  Dave Irwin said that
Russ Jenkins had accepted the fact that climbing was no longer an active part
of the clubs activities.  Graham
Wilton-Jones said that he thought it a good idea for the club to keep itself
informed of climbing information, accommodation, contacts, and the likes,
though someone else like the Hon. Caving Secretary would have to relay
correspondence back to the club.  Martin
Grass said there was still much interest in mountaineering and hill walking and
that club membership of the B.M.C. should be maintained.  No vote was necessary.  Nigel Taylor proposed, seconded by Dave Irwin
that the Climbing Secretary’s report be adopted.  Carried unanimously.

The Tackle Master’s report then followed having been
published in the B.B.  Graham
Wilton-Jones said that more tackle had gone missing and he was in a dilemma as
to who could have done it and what to do about it.  Nigel Taylor expressed concern over finding
tackle spread around Mendip for long periods of time which had not been booked
out.  Jok Orr suggested a deposit system
for taking tackle out to encourage people to return it.  John Turner suggested more restricted access
keys only being available from a few selected people.  Dave Turner disagreed with the last speaker,
as it would penalise the bone-fide member who caved regularly, particularly
during mid-week when the select few could be difficult to contact.  Pete Franklin endorsed the idea of a more
restricted access to the tackle.  Chris
Batstone suggested exploring tighter control on the booking out system.  Colin Dooley asked whether this meeting could
give a directive to the new committee to control the tackle more
efficiently.  Jok Orr said people should
be made more responsible for tackle by paying a deposit.  John Turner and Nigel Taylor both suggested
better control over tackle particularly the reserve store which often finds its
way into the regular store and subsequently goes missing.  Tom Temple proposed, seconded by Annie
Wilton-Jones that the committee be directed to control the tackle more
efficiently but at the same time maintain reasonable access.  Carried unanimously.

Bob Cross proposed, seconded by John Dukes that the Tackle
Masters report be adopted.  Carried
unanimously.

The B. B. Editors report was taken next, already having been
published in the B.B.  Dave Irwin had no
further comments to make.  John Dukes
raised the question of improving printing methods if financially possible.  Dave Irwin replied that the club had so far
relied on privately owned machines and perhaps the club should consider
purchasing its own.  Sett said he knows
of a nearly new machine (gestetner) going for around £15.  The meeting agreed to purchase such a
machine.  Pete Franklin said he also knew
of a printing machine and would investigate the possibility of buying it.

Colin Dooley said that the B.B. had not progressed and the
position was no different from the previous year.  He reiterated the need for the club to have
its own printing facilities, also the need for more material from the members
in order to improve the B. B. and this was down to individual members.  John Dukes proposed, seconded by Tom Temple
that the B.B. Editors report be adopted. Carried unanimously.

Dave Irwin said of the Librarians report that the club had a
collection of rare and valuable books. These should be locked away and only be available on application to the
librarian.  Nigel Taylor suggested storing
these books in a fireproof box even if the club had to purchase one.  Chris Batstone proposed, seconded by John
Dukes that the Librarians report be adopted. Carried unanimously.

Hut Engineer’s report which had been previously printed in
the B.B. was next taken.  Bob Cross said
he had nothing to add.  Nigel Taylor
referred to a letter in the B.B. regarding half completed work.  He suggested that people such as these either
come and do some work or keep their mouth shut. The chairman endorsed this comment. Dave Irwin proposed, seconded by Wally Wilkinson that the Hut Engineer
report be adopted.  Carried unanimously.

Graham Wilton-Jones had nothing further to add to his
previously published Publication Officers report.  Dave Irwin proposed, seconded, by Annie
Wilton-Jones that the report be adopted. Carried unanimously.

A report on the Ian Dear Memorial Fund was not available as
Mike Palmer was not present.  Dave Irwin
said that there had been one application from Nick Thorne who had been allowed
£40 towards an Austrian trip.  A report
on this should soon appear in the B.B.

Tim Large said that Les Peters, Bob Bagshaw and Roy Bennett
were prepared to stand as Trustees.  Alan
Thomas and Roy Bennett were nominated by the committee.  Sett was nominated by Nigel Taylor and
seconded by Tom Temple.  A vote was,
called for by the chairman; Les Peters, Bob Bagshaw, Roy Bennett and Alan
Thomas were elected.

The committee results were received from the tellers by the
chairman.  Those elected were :- Tim
Large, Dave Irwin, Sue Tucker, Chris Batstone, Graham Wilton-Jones, Martin Grass,
Nigel Taylor, Bob Cross and John Dukes.

The following committee members were given the following
posts:-

Hon. Secretary: – Tim Large

Hon. Treasurer: – Sue Tucker

Caving Secretary: – Martin Grass

Tackle Master: – John Dukes

Hut Warden: – Chris Batstone

Hut Engineer: – Nigel Taylor

B.B. Editor: – Dave Irwin

The ballot papers were then burned on the Belfry fire.  Martin Bishop then proposed that Bob Cross
take on the duties of liaison with the climbing and mountaineering world in
order to maintain useful contacts the meeting agreed.

The meeting then adopted the Hon. Auditors report and
elected Joan Bennett as Hon. Auditor for 1979.

ANY OTHER BUSINESS

The chairman then read a letter from Garth Dell regarding an
incident which happened at the Belfry and resulted in his membership being
cancelled.  He appealed to the club for
reinstatement of his membership. Dave Irwin replied on behalf of the committee
explaining the position.  Much discussion
ensued.  Eventually two motions
emerged.  Firstly by Pete Franklin,
seconded by Dave Irwin that the suspension be cut to six months.  Carried unanimously.  Secondly Tom Temple, seconded by Wally
Wilkinson that his membership be reinstated immediately.  Voting 17 for – 12 against motion carried.

This motion was carried after prolonged and serious
discussion and by no means sets a precedent. It was proposed by Jok Orr, seconded by Val Wilkinson that the original
committee action regarding Garth Dell should be fully endorsed by the
meeting.  Carried with a large majority.

There being no other business the meeting closed at4.20pm.

 

Cavers Bookshelf No.4

a review by Martin Grass of the N.P.C. Journal 1979

The N.P.C. Journal has not been published for two years but
this does not that they have been idle as this superb publication bears
out.  It includes a lengthy account on
the discovery and exploration of Link Pot – Easegill with a pull-out survey and
black and white photographs of the system. Other surveys included are of Vesper Hole – Kingsdale and Ogof oy
Herwheliwr, North Wales together with an article (with surveys) on

Belgium

caves.  A rather late report on the
exploration of Dale Head Pot can be found as well as lesser original
explorations in
Yorkshire.  Expedition reports on
Austria,
Ireland
and

Belgium

can be found, though most has already been published elsewhere.  A light-hearted report on

Mexico
by Jim Eyre is certainly
worth reading and his account of descending some of the big shafts there will
put the hardest caver off SRT for life.

All this is certainly one of the best journals to be
published by a club for a long time and the price of £1.35p is good value for
68 pages of information.  The journal can
be purchased from the publications officer of the Northern Pennine Club,
Greenclose House, Clapham, via

Lancaster
,
or from the M.C.G. who have a few copies for sale at the Hunters at a weekend.

For of some lighter entertainment here is a crossword sent
in by Steve Woolven.  The answers will be
in the next B.B.

 

Crossword

CLUES ACROSS

1. Mendip cavers paradise
10 “A Mist” in 1 across
11 An alternative for alternative
12 A direction in front the Queen could give you this Mendip cave
15 This beautiful wench could be on the boundary
16 Insert the missing word inside the brackets – “Leave (—–) to get
through”
19 A possible Mendip cave
21 Derbyshire’s “Roadside” Pot, you won’t get by
22 Castle? An old B.E.C. dig?
25 Definite article
27
Surrey Heath Caving Club in short
30 Leave it when caving ,
32 Chamber in St. Cuthbert’s
33 You do this when 33 down is joined together! It sounds like.
34 Mistake!
35 Throw up!
37 Dog, Owl on Mendip, all in a cave.
40 Scarlet dye in a French reservoir.
41 Lie down and turn in the Cathedral.
42 Staging a mock rescue.
43 Horizontal underground passage.
44 Trog to be lost and muddled in a cave.

CLUES DOWN

2 The way to go when prussiking
3 Wanted?
4 An obscene word in 1 across
5 Proportional term of flow to time
6 Zulu rides the evil explanation
7 Digging’s easy with this.
8

Yemen

changed to the opposition
9 A mine in Derbyshire!
13 Bound and jump through pools of water
14 Hesitate!
17 This isn’t wanted in 7 down (5,4)
18 Opposite to 26 down
20 Named thing!
23 Animal cave
24 They brew 4 down
26 Negative
28 Chased cad and herd into narrow opening
29 Caves can be formed by this
31 Legendary being wearing caving gear
33 A mine and a wet suit have this
36 It’s a rare commodity in the underground world
38 Line twist in the stream is more of a river
39 Glacial phase.


 

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Lifeline

a regular column for
our Hon. Sec. Tim Large

The Midsummer Buffet was attended by a smaller number than
last, but all the same was very enjoyable. Those who preferred a barbecue would
have got rather wet that evening!

It is becoming increasingly apparent that our financial
situation is not comfortable.  With the
shortened financial year reducing the subscriptions to £2.00 it has been
necessary to draw from our building society account – in other words – reducing
our capital.  It is inevitable that the
subscription rates will have to be increased at the AGM – but it is debatable
what they will be.

The major expense is the printing and distribution of the
B.B.   With the increase in postal
charges it will cost each subscription paying member £2.50 per year.  The only way to reduce the figure would be to
have a bi-monthly BB.  In the past our
paper supplies have been very cheap, but now even buying at the cheapest
commercial source the costs bear no comparison. The last AGM agreed to the purchase of a new (second-hand) printing
machine.  This still has to be bought and
could cost as much as a £100.  Sett is
still attempting to get the machine he knows of at his works.  At the present time we could barely afford
the machine.

However you look prices are rising, not to mention the
recent VAT increases.  In order to make
up the losses of tackle and renovating existing stock it is necessary to spend
£170 a year (some £1 per sub paying member).  Our Third Party Liability insurance works out at 61p per head at present
– next years premium is likely to be more.

At present the Belfry is expected to be self financing but
it would appear that disregarding the Navy groups fees it is running at a
slight loss.  It would be dangerous to
rely on the Navy as their usage is unpredictable.  The Belfry takings at present also cater for
the rates and insurance.  It is not
unreasonable to expect 50% of these expenses to come from membership
subscriptions.  This would leave some
money for Belfry maintenance costs.

So far I have not mentioned all the other Club expenses
including library purchases; various subscriptions to CSCC, BCRA, BMC etc;
Secretarial and the occasional non-recurring costs.

Finally we have never specifically allocated a yearly sum
towards the Belfry improvements or structural repairs.  I think it is important we look to the future
and make provision for these.  Facilities
at the Belfry could be improved but initial could be £1,000 – £1,200.  With inflation running at nearly 2% per year
we may never be able to afford this type of project if not catered from the
subscriptions now.  With only allowing £1.00
per member per year for any such improvements the subscription works out to be
at least £7.00 – £8 would be much better.

Ed. note:  Tim’s
calculations come as a bit of a shock, I was thinking of somewhere between £5 –
£6, roughly doubling the current sub rates. Speaking personally I wonder if there is another approach to the problem
of expensive maintenance and improvements to the Belfry.  ‘Way-back’ in 1967 Bob Bagshaw  started a hut fund by getting members to sign
a bankers order for £1 a month for three years – this raised about 800 pounds
and was a valuable nest-egg when the new Belfry had to financed.  At the current rate this would be about £4 –
£5 per month.  I wonder how many of our
current Belfry regulars would be prepared to do this?  Perphaps Sue Tucker might like to think about
it!

True or false?

Ben Lyon at the Symposium on ‘Caves and the Community’…”Old
cavers never die, they just get married or join the Pengelly Cave Studies
Trust”

 

Financial Notes

As has been hinted by Tim Large
in his ‘Lifeline’ it appears that the subscription will have to be raised.  The following notes will enable members to
arrive at their own conclusion to what level the sub should be raised.

by Sue Tucker, Dave
Irwin and Tim Large

Talking money problems in the B.B. makes for dull reading
when the whole Journal could be packed with caving and associated news.  Subscriptions.  There is one fact that stands out like a sore
thumb and that is that the subs will have to be raised from the next club year
– 1979/80.

What we’ve tried to do, hopefully, is to summarise briefly
the various expenditure that the club incurs in a year and relate this to the
current membership.  Note these figures
do not allow for any drop in membership due to ‘natural wastage’ or to the
increased sub itself.

In Janubry.1972 the subscription was increased from £1.25 to
£2.50 and many members were shocked when this occurred.  Some thought that the world had ended and the
BEC would be in severe financial trouble – that did not happen.  Membership is growing at a faster rate than
for many years and the Committee foresees the membership at over 250 before
long.  The sub was raised again in 1976
to £3.00; the present rate.

Anyway, what we have done is to extract the relevant
expenses that is incurred by the club as a whole and not included any item that
is part of the Belfry costs except the insurance and rates.  We have also included the same costs as they
were in 1973 to show clearly the rise in costs over the period of the last six
years and reduced these to represent the costs to an individual member.  These costs per member have been based on a
175 subscription paying members – remember that the club has 50 Life
Members.  In a further attempt to
stabilise the current situation all the various re-saleable accounts (surveys,
boots, carbide etc.) have been frozen and any fresh stocks are to be funded
from the profits of the previous sales.

One likely area of controversy is likely to be in the
suggested switch of Belfry Insurance and rates to the sub paying member
enabling Belfry surpluses to be accumulated for future improvements as well as
a levy included in the sub to swell this sum. It is also argued that the Belfry belongs to all members and so the
basic annual costs of the buildings should be borne by all members.  This argument is countered by the fact that
all members, particularly the Life Members financed the building in the first
place and the General financing and upkeep is the responsibility of those
people using the building at the present time. The Belfry income and expenditure accounts will be published before the
AGM so people will have the opportunity to debate this before the AGM.

Whatever way the argument on the reapportioning of the
Belfry expenditures the Club decided the basic problem is how to finance any
major repairs in the future.  In theses
days of high inflation it is not really practical to raise money slowly over a
number of years as the accumulated sum will only chase costs.  Any major work to be carried out on the
Belfry is probably better to be raised over one or two years by putting a levy
on both the subscriptions and the Belfry bed night fee.

The chart that follows indicates the choice of the make-up
of the sub and some do include a proportion for a Belfry fund if it is deemed
necessary.  It is clear that the sub has
to be raised.  What the Committee will
have to do in coming to a recommendation is to assess the amount of floating
money it requires for non-recurring costs £100 has been estimated in the chart,
and Belfry improvements.  Remember that
the Belfry is now 10 years old and will soon need several major repairs and improvements.  Let the BB publish your views before the AGM
e.g.  Where can we make substantial
savings without loss of service to members?; Should the Committee raise the sub
annually to reflect the National rate of inflation? Get your pens out NOW and
don’t sit there moaning if the sub more than doubles….


 

£

£

£

£

£

£

£

£

£

£

£

£


 


 

1973

1979/80

a

b

c

d

e

f

g

h

j

k


 

BB Printing & Distribution

173

450

2.50

2.50

+

1.50

+

1.50

2.50

+

1.50

2.50

+

1.50

2.50

2.50


 

3rd Party Insurance

47

122

.70

.70

.70

.70

.70

.70

.70

.70

.70

.70


 

Tackle

111

175

1.00

1.00

1.00

1.00

1.00

1.00

1.00

1.00

1.00

1.00


 

Subs (BRCA etc)

8

38

.30

.30

.30

.30

.30

.30

.30

.30

.30@

.30@


 

Belfry Rates inlc. Water

72

122

—-

.60

—-

.60

—-

.30@

—-

—-

@

@


 

Belfry Insurance

45

130

—-

.75

—-

.75

—-

.38

—-

—-

.38@

.38@


 

Library

14

30

.20

.20

.20

.20

.20

.20

.20

.20

.20

.20


 

Belfry Improvement


175

1.00

—-

1.00

—-

1.00

—-

—-

—-

2.00

.50

#

Se. Expenses

19

50

.30

.30

.30

.30

.30

.30

.30

.30

.50

.50


 

 Non-recurring costs

–?

100

.60

.60

.60

.60

.60

.60

.60

.60

.60

.60


 

SUBSCRIPTION RATE—————- 6.60   6.95  5.60     5.95     6.70   5.28     5.60    4.60    8.28     6.28

+ = bi-monthly B. B.

@ = Belfry Insurance and Rates

NB; g leaves arrangements as they are at the moment without
any support funding for the Belfry.  It
also does not allow any income for Belfry improvements.

# tackle – out of position

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