Hon. Sec: A.R. Thomas,
Hut Warden: P.Townsend,
Avenue
EDITOR: D.J. Irwin.
3.
Contents
- 1 Letter To The Editor
- 2
- 3 Just a Sec
- 4
- 5 The Variability of Limestone Hydrology
- 6 February Committee Meeting
- 7
- 8 Cambrian Caving Council (Cyngor Ogofeydd Cymreig)
- 9 Letter To The Editor
- 10
- 11 Monthly Notes No.21
- 12
- 13 Cavers Bookshelf
- 14 Address Changes and Additions
- 15
- 16 August/Longwood Key
- 17 It Had To Happen – Blood Chits For Cheddar
- 18 CRG Meeting
- 19
- 20 A.W. + J.G. = S.S.D.
- 21
- 22 Extracts from the Caving Log
Letter To The Editor
Dear Sir,
The recent article by Prew (Speech Communication
Underground, November B.B. No. 248) raises a point of some interest. A grade 6
survey of St. Cuthberts implies that the position of the end of the cave (Gour
Rift) in relation to the entrance contains a possible error of ±40ft. in the
easting and northing. If, by means of
magnetic induction method, the position could be located to an accuracy of say
±10ft. or even ±20ft., the survey could be closed onto this position thus
gaining considerable accuracy throughout the surveyed network. It would therefore be interesting to know the
accuracy of this method and also the likely effects of local magnetic
disturbances due to be buried bedsteads and the like. Clearly any method of improving the results
of the magnetic survey of the cave is of considerable importance.
Mike Luckwill
Sedgeley, 9-1-69.
Prew has sent in the following:
Dear Sir,
I have read with interest Mike Luckwills letter referring
to the use of the Magnetic Induction System I described in the November B.B.
No.248, for checking the accuracy of the St. Cuthberts survey.
Firstly, if anyone is interested in the use of magnetic
induction as an instrument of surveying I could recommend they obtain the
article by Dr. H. Lord in the Proceedings of the B.S.A. No.1, August 1963. Dr. Lord describes in his articles the pros
and cons of using Inductive System for pinpointing parts of a cave system on
the surface.
Secondly, my own feelings on the subject are as follows
bearing in mind the limitations of the system that I have produced. At present the maximum range of the device
when used with speech is only 300ft., however, if a continuous tone were used
this could possibly be increased to 400ft. In order to obtain the degree of accuracy suggested then the range must
be considerable reduced, say halved, as it would be impossible to pinpoint the
underground transmitter accurately if the received cone were only just
detectable. Unfortunately Gour Rift is,
almost certainly, outside the range of the present equipment. There is, however, an improved version being
designed at present and it is hoped that this will give considerably greater
range of operation.
A second snag with the Magnetic Induction System is the use
of rather large aerial coils, at least 10ft. in diameter for a range of
300ft. If an accurate position is to be
obtained then it is essential that the aerial coils (underground and surface)
be rigid and that all the wires in the coil lie in the same place. This presents quite a problem
underground. It is also important that
the underground aerial is positioned accurately in the horizontal plane.
I think from the above remarks you will realise that at
present accurate pinpointing of the parts of the cave can only be done, at
present, where the areas of interest lie within 200ft. of the surface.
Just a Sec
With Alan Thomas
DURING the Dining Room Dig Meet on Tuesday, 25th February
some b.s.a.d. stole a total of about £21+ from the diggers clothes in the
Belfry. One member alone lost £8 in
notes
.
At the February Committee Meeting it was decided to plant a
thousand Christmas trees on the Belfry site as a profit making crop. (Alan is taking orders for Christmas 1972!!!
Ed.).
THE MAIN business of the February Committee meeting was the
New Club Constitution which will be put to the 1969 A.G.M. as a Committee
proposal. The draft done by Alfie was
amended in accordance with detailed advice given by Digger Harris and
discussion by the Committee. It is not
proposed to send full copies to all members unless they especially request one
by writing to me. A summary of the proposals
will appear in the B.B. later. Copies of
the full constitution may be seen at the Belfry or Waggon as soon as they are
prepared.
Can anybody tell us the present address of R. Kitchen? Correspondence to the address given in the
B.B. is returned by the P.O.
I am told that an interesting event took place recently when
Ted Mason, Harry Ashworth, Gerald Platten, Lord Waldegrave and others took a
party of Venture Scouts from
Lamb Leer.
Have you any books, publications or surveys belonging to the
Club Library? As you know the last
A.G.M. directed the Hon. Librarian to institute a system of fines. This does not apply at present to books that
were taken out before the system came into force, so if YOU have any items from
the library, get them to Dave Serle, Dolphin Cottage,
possible. If you cannot get out to
Priddy then give them to myself or Dave Irwin at the Waggon on Thursday
evenings.
The Ian Dear Memorial Fund Committee will be meeting this
month to discuss the first application it has ever received.
IT IS rather novel to be able to blame the lateness of the
February B.B. on neither the postal department nor the Editor; in fact the ink
froze in the Gestetner machine!
JOHN RILEY is looking for someone to share the furnished
house he rents at Chew Stoke. A half
share of the rent is £2-12-6 per week.
HAVE YOU ordered your B.E.C. caving report No.13 (Parts A
-O) yet? Part A is already published and
selling out fast. The only way to be
sure of getting the whole report is to place an order with Bryan Ellis,
Knockauns, Combwich, Nr. Bridgwater, who will send you each part with an
invoice as soon as it is published.
The Variability of Limestone Hydrology
By R.D. Stenner
In the past few years results obtained by various
researchers into limestone hydrology have been of great interest to
cavers. Perhaps for the first time the
cavers are seeing some point in the scientific work being carried out in their
caves. Because the caver has in general
been only interested in the results, the finer points in the interpretation of
results, the qualifications and the limitations have not worried him. This is natural and to be expected, but as a
result muddled thinking and faulty reasoning are fairly widespread, for example
in discussions about the time of water flow from Cuthberts – Wookey (in
connection with digs in the stream passage) or in the comparison of the two
hydrological studies that have been carried out in the Burrington area, wildly
incorrect conclusions have been made. In
this article the author aims to point out to cavers the dangers of relying on a
single water tracing experiment, making conclusions that may well be incorrect
under different conditions.
Figure 1: The time
taken for water in a simple stream to flow from one point to another.
Figure 2: The time
taken for the water to flow between the same two points in a simple stream in high
and low water conditions.
First, consider times of flow. The very idea of a time may be
misleading. If water at given point A in
a single discrete stream at a given time, is timed to a second point B some
distance downstream, the result shown in figure 1 will be obtained. This graph itself is the most meaningful
expression of the time of flow, but for the layman the most comprehensible will
be the times t1 and t2 (the time at which the water first reaches the point,
and the time at which the majority of the water reaches the point). The caver will realise that in practice the
curve may be flattened with no easily discernible peak and that oxbows will
cause multiple peaks to be formed.
The time of flow will vary with discharge. Figure 2 show the type of variation to be
expected in a simple case between high water and low water conditions.
Secondly, the distribution of water in a complex system of
interconnected water courses is likely to vary considerably. This variation may
occur in several ways, and three will be considered.
1. The distribution of water in a network of
courses may vary with the discharge. As
a stream rises increasing proportions of the stream will take alternative
routes.
An example of this is the
distribution of the surface stream at G.B. between the inlet at the N.E. corner
of the Gorge and the stream in the Devils Elbow route. Until the great flood in July 1968, the ratio
of the sizes of the Devils Elbow and the N.E. inlet stream varied, with the
ratio being determined by the discharge value of the surface stream. In high flood the stream overflows into two
other large inlets into the Devils Elbow route. (The N.E. inlet also contains water from a large unknown source). The full details of this result will be
published later.
2. A stream may spontaneously change its
distribution between routes.
An example is water sinking near
the pipe taking water into St. Cuthberts Swallet. Water from St. Cuthberts stream flows both
into the E. inlet in Pulpit Passage and to the N.E. inlet in Arête
Chamber. Two years ago the majority of
this water flowed into the E. inlet. In
July 1967 the majority of the water flowed into the N.E. inlet, and this was
the case for about a year before reverting to the E. inlet. The variation was not related to any possible
variable, and was probably caused by changes within the boulder ruckle between
the cave and the surface.
3. The distribution of a stream between routes may
also change as a result of excavation or silting which can take place in a flood.
For example the pattern of
distribution of the G.B. stream between the Devils Elbow route and the N.E.
inlet changed considerably as a result of the 1968 flood.
In conclusion, the danger of relying on the results of a
single tracing experiment can be seen in the following case. In February 1968 water from St. Cuthberts
stream was traced in the cave using Pyranine with activated charcoal
detectors. The dye was introduced 150ft.
upstream of the dam, and very small streams with temperature and characteristics
of percolation water gave positive results, but the Drinking Fountain stream
gave a negative result. In November 1968
chemical analysis showed with certainty that the Drinking Fountain stream was
derived largely from St. Cuthberts stream, using a sink unknown in the St.
Cuthberts Pool. On this occasion the
Pool was unusually deep because the top dam had been left in by accident. The conclusion is that in high water conditions
the Drinking Fountain stream comes largely from St. Cuthberts Pool, the source
in low water is unknown. Although when
they are considered together the two sets of results give a reasonable picture
of the hydrology of this part of St. Cuthberts could be misleading, the result
of the variability of the hydrology of limestone areas.
February Committee Meeting
The February Committee Meeting was devoted to two subjects
only: Alfies proposed constitution and Long Term Planning. Regarding the Constitution: – this has been
modified by the Committee and will be presented at the A.G.M. as a Committee
resolution. Copies will be available at
the Belfry and the Waggon; for those who cant get there to inspect it then
spare copies will be sent to them. LTP
report will be appearing soon.
Cambrian Caving Council (Cyngor Ogofeydd Cymreig)
report by Dave Turner
The last meeting of the Cambrian Caving Conference was held
on Saturday, January 25th 1969 at 10.30am at Penwyllt. The purpose of the conference was to set up a
Welsh Regional Council on the lines of similar organisations. The B.E.C., although not invited, managed to
have delegates appear at Penwyllt in close company with members of the
U.B.S.S. (also not invited) exactly at 10.30am. Paul Allen, Bob Lewis and others of the Severn Valley C.C. were found
already installed and making their feelings known.
There were strong feelings amongst members of many Welsh
based clubs that the new council should limit its members to those who are
totally Welsh based or willing to forgo all interest on other regions. It was this strong closed-shop attitude
which made the above Mendip clubs go to the Conference to ensure that all clubs
who work in
should have some say on the newly formed Council.
After the customary reading of the minutes; election of the
Chairman (John Osbourne, Hon. Sec. of the S.W.C.C.) etc., the next hour and a
half was spent voting on who should be allowed to vote at the meeting. (Ed. note: the first part of the meeting was
the Cambrian Conference and after the discussion of the proposed constitution
it would become the Cambrian Caving Council). Initially only the Welsh clubs who had been invited were allowed to vote
and after some discussion it was decided that the Mendip Clubs should give
reasons as to why they should be given the vote. Valid reasons being a hut or headquarters in
evidence of scientific work in Welsh caves in the recent past. Paul Allen spoke first for the
they had just rented a hut in
and were doing work in the Hepste and Trefil areas this was passed as O.K.
Pete Stanging spoke next for the U.B.S.S. discovery,
exploration and survey of Little Neath this was queried by Mel Davis (I.C.I.
Nylon Spinners) who considered that they had only found the cave by chance and
werent really interested in it!! However other Welsh clubs were not swayed by this argument and so the
U.B.S.S. could vote.
Next the B.E.C. Dave Irwin spoke of the work (both
discovery and exploration of Roman Mine) also of members work in the Chepstow
area. After Mel Davis claimed the
discovery of Roman Mine for the I.C.I. Nylon Spinners, the B.E.C. were elected
to vote.
Tim Reynolds justifying
Warburtons survey of Aggie (Agen Allwedd to the Welsh). This news surprised Mel Davis and the other
Aggie wardens as the
had not applied for the key more than a couple of times in the last year. It soon transpired that they were obtaining
the key from the
makes it a
survey! says David Leach (Hereford C.C.) With the other Mendip Clubs voting for them the
elected.
Now the business of the day could begin. The motion to form a Cambrain Caving Council;
was quickly passed and the tedious business of deciding on the constitution
started. A draft constitution based in
general on that of the Southern council, had already been circulated and this
was used as a basis. First the name: –
Cambrian Caving Council, Welsh Caving Council, Cyngor Ogoffydd Cymru all
combinations were proposed. The Welsh
members wanting the Welsh name first; the English wanting the English name
first! There being more English members
present the English name comes first. Cambrian, we were told by experts is a bastard word and so no direct
Welsh translation exists. Cymru meaning
Welsh. Cymraig was suggested as the best
translation and after ten minutes discussion as to the correct Cymreig won.
The objects and guiding principles were dealt with little
more ease and then the meeting adjourned for lunch, The Gwyn for most and the
Courage House half a mile down the road for the B.E.C.
The next clause to be discussed was considered by the Mendip
Clubs to be the most offensive. The
draft constitution was worded A club is eligible for membership of the Council
if its major interests are in
and who wishes to be represented by the above Council only. The required changes were passed with far
less opposition than had been expected. The amended clause reads A club is eligible for membership of the
Council if it has major interests in
and the
not based in
but who have interest there to have a say in the running of the regional
council.
The clauses relating to the number of delegates, the
officers of the Council and Council meetings were passed with few amendments.
Voting came again in clause 8. The Southern Council have the right of veto
but the chairmans casting vote carried the motion not to have the veto.
Subscriptions took a while to be agreed upon, the final
compromise was ten shillings a year and ten shillings entrance fee, but the
Committee reserved the right to waive all or part of it at its discretion.
The arrangement of dissolution was then discussed at length
– completely unnecessary as it was pointed out by Dr. Oliver Lloyd that the
Southern Council only have the clause on dissolution to avoid a veto if
persistently used. Not having the veto
the clause became redundant.
At this stage the B.E.C. & Wessex left the meeting
leaving the U.B.S.S. and
mutual interest. It was felt that the
journey was not wasted as the Mendip Clubs had helped in the formation of a
more useful and workable council than would otherwise have been the case.
The B.E.C. delegates were Dave Irwin, Martin Webster and
Dave Turner.
Letter To The Editor
Dear Sir,
Before we know where we are it will be time to attend
another A.G.M. In common with other
meetings of this type there are several faults as a result of following
standing orders for procedure. In the
past these have only led to temporary feelings if disgruntlement, but at the present
time, when the club is expanding in many ways, they could have more serious
consequences.
Let us first consider the causes. The problem is that there is a finite amount
of time and apparently an infinite amount of business to be carried out. Minutes and reports from the various club
officers take up most of the time and when important business; motions and
their discussion, has to be hurried and inevitable curtailed.
The remedy is simple and may I suggest that it is applied
this year? The reports of all club
officers should be published and issued to every member, together with the
financial statement. They could be
published in the B.B. (hmm Ed.). At
the meeting the formality of reading the reports could be then be bypassed,
discussion and voting on them would quickly be finished and ample time left for
the more important business.
Improvement in the discussion of members resolutions would
also occur if the example set by Sett and Mike Palmer last year were
followed, and members publish their thoughts on their proposals. This would enable people who dont get down
to Mendip very often to go to the meeting with informed and up to-date
opinions, where as at the moment they have to spend half the time at the
meeting catching up with the thoughts of those who see each other frequently
and can discuss these matters.
A case in point will be Alfies constitution. I am sure that I shall not be confronted with
it at the A.G.M. and have to vote for or against, but I not only want to know
what it is long before the meeting, I also want to hear other peoples views on
it before the meeting. Surely the B.B.
is an excellent medium for propagating these views and if people just dont
write, may we have some political journalism?
Yours
faithfully,
Mike
Luckwill
Ed. Note: Thanks Mike for this interesting
letter I feel that theres much in it for discussion. I am prepared to keep aside a page or so a
month for members letters on this subject so that your Committee can gather
members feelings on this and associated subjects.
Monthly Notes No.21
By Wig
Yorkshire
News from this popular caving area only seems to get into
the columns of the B.B. on rare occasions although members of the Dining Room
Digging team are arranging monthly trips to
in the immediate future so something should be heard of their exploits up in
the far north. Until news is sent in
from Martin Webster and Co., here are a few notes gathered from recent
publications in the B.E.C. Library:-
FAWCETT MOOR: – W.R.P.C. have entered a wet bedding plane
4,000ft. long.
IREBY FELL CAVERN: N.C.C. have dug the boulder choke beyond the
1st sump and entered half a mile of winding passage.
PASTURE GILL POT: New pot explored. 340ft. deep including 130ft. pitch. Above Yockenthwaite Farm, Wharfedale.
Above Bucken; C.P.C. have entered 4,000ft. of stream passage.
RIGG POT – Langcliffe: Extended by 300ft. Mainly low crawls.
SUNSET HOLE: High level series extended by 100ft.
SLAPE GILL Coverdale: Y.U.R.T. have made two discoveries; one
of 300ft. and another of 1,100ft.
EASEGILL: Small extensions made by Brook brothers near
P2 (Newby Moss Pot): now 280ft. deep by 900ft. long.
Sheets
cave extended ¼ mile.
Growling Hole (Kingsdale) : New discovery including 250ft. pitch.
Langcliffe Pot: Now three miles long.
(nr Arkengarthdale): 260ft. long.
Bradford Pothole Club Journal gives full description of
Whitsun Series (including survey) found by them last year in the GG system.
On Mendip the M.C.G. have been working in the Longwood/August
System and have made a small discovery in their dig in Sand Passage. The length was just over 15ft. but ended in
another boulder choke. The January and
February issue of the A.C.G. Newsletter contain an interesting article on the
possibility of connecting
and
The sculptured head of William Beard on his gravestone at
Banwell is in grave danger of disintegrating. Officials of the
restore the work providing it is kept indoors. The argument that has arisen that if the head is removed then a replica
will be required by the villagers but who pays? Perhaps the Mendip Preservation Society could
help here.
PEMBROKESHIRE: new cave discovered at Saddle Head. Over 400 feet long with many magnificent
formations. Called Ogof Govan.
Divers have been exploring the Mazeways and have followed the submerged passage
for over 950ft. from base.
MENDIP: Sludge Pit Tony Jarrett of the Axbridge is
planning a prolonged attack on the terminal sump.
MENDIP: St. Cuthberts Dave Irwin and Martin Webster have
found an interesting extension in the Rabbit Warren. Though only 70-80ft. long there are many fine
crystal groups and a group of lipped gours covering the floor of an
unexplored passage that heads into the blank area of the Rabbit Warren. The entrance to this passage and the crystal
formations are being taped off in the very near future.
The survey of the Rabbit Warren is now complete and the
total passage length is about 2,800ft.
SWILDONS: Tim Reynolds (WCC) and Pete Standing have found an
entrance to what appears to be a large passage above the streamway in Ten, but
as time was short and they wanted to get on to Twelve they left it for another
occasion so further developments may prove very interesting.
Two collapses have occurred near Cuckoo Cleeves, one of
which is going to be the WCC summer dig.
To ensure that the club records are kept in safe keeping Bob
Bagshaw is arranging a box to be kept at the bank. This will house club log books, title deeds
and other important papers that have been given to the club including Jack
Waddons manuscripts which contain useful information on the caves of Derbyshire
and
as possible. The Committee are chasing
the known holders of this material. Once the material has been collected then a list will be available from
Dave Serle and appointment may be made through Bob Bagshaw enabling members and
other interested people to inspect the contents. The material will not be taken from the bank. Members wanting copies can make arrangements
with Bob to have what they require Photostatted at their own cost.
Hillgrove Water Tracing Results
I recently received a note from Tim Atkinson (WCC &
UBSS) giving the water tracing results. He says The swallets traced were, from west to east, Hillgrove, Easter
Hole, Whitsun Hole, Doubleback Swallet (Zoo Swallet), Rock Swallet. Lycopodium spores were employed in all cases,
2kg. per sink. An artificial stream had
to be created at Hillgrove Swallet, using a fire pump to pump water from the
pond into the sink. The water was
directed down Balchs Shaft, which is known to connect with the shaft dug by
Frank Frost and others. Spores from all
of the swallets were recovered, though in very small quantities from some. The results, including the minimum time of
arrival of the spores, are given in the table below. In a few cases, single
spores were recovered from springs other than those mentioned, these are put
down to chance contamination.
Because of the complexity of the flow pattern and the small
numbers of spores recovered on this occasion (January 1969) it is by no means
certain that the results would appear precisely the same if the tests were
repeated. Unfortunately, to repeat them
using lycopodium spores would be too expensive, but it is hoped to repeat at
least some of these tracings using dyes, and also to trace some of the other
swallets in the area.
As seems to be usual in water tracing with lycopodium, the
results raise several problems to do with the hydrology of limestone terrain,
and it is proposed to discuss these at more length in the full report of the
operation.
SWALLET |
RESURGENCE |
TIME hours |
Hillgrove |
Wookey Hole Biddlecombe West |
15 2 3 |
Easter Hole |
Wookey Hole |
8 11 |
Whitsun hole |
Wookey Hole Biddelcome West Biddlecombe East |
15 2 3 8 10 |
Doubleback (Zoo) |
Wookey Hole |
72 77 |
Rock |
Wookey Hole |
92 98 |
April issue contains articles of interest to all Walking
in the snow covered mountains in
Operation later this year; Caving log; Dining Room Dig report with survey and
cartoon by Jock Orr.
Cavers Bookshelf
By Mike Luckwill
Many readers will be delighted to hear that the first
edition, or Old Series of the Ordnance Survey, 1 to the mile, maps are being
republished. Prompted by the Napoleonic
Wars it was decided that a reliable map of
during the first half of the Nineteenth Century the survey was carried
out. Sheet 1 (
north of the Thames, about the same as sheets 160 and 161 of the Seventh
Series) was published in 1805 and by 1869 all of
plates were first made as early as 1805 in some cases, they remained in use
until 1890 and were continually revised up to that time. The present printing will contain these
revisions, which are mainly railways and canals built during these years to
transport coal; they will thus be of considerable interest to the student of
archaeology in
The climber and hill walker will no doubt be attracted
towards sheets of North Wales and the
made so attractive by the fact that the maps are hachured and not
contoured. The reviewer is particularly
looking forward to seeing some of the Scottish sheets; imagine being stranded
somewhere in the Cairngorms or the Cullins with nothing to guide one but one of
these maps.
As with many other publications of interest to cavers, and
lovers of the West Country, we have the publishing house of David and Charles
to thank for making these sheets available. They are being published throughout the next two years (
to follow) and cost the extremely reasonable sum of 15/- each (flat of
folded). The flat version includes notes
by the editor, Dr. J.B. Harley of the
and will arrive in the post on the day of publication to all those who place an
order. Details may be obtained from
David and Charles, South Devon House, Newton Abbot,
Address Changes and Additions
R. Kitchen address unknown.
B.G. Hewitt delete from address list.
R. White, 33
Somerset.
R.S. King, (Kangy) letters can be sent through Eddy Welch,
T. Hodgson,
Henlease,
J. Cornwell,
Fishponds,
C.Clarke,
Bedminster,
August/Longwood Key
The key to August Longwood Swallet is available from Dave
Irwin. Members wishing to obtain the key
should drop a line to Wig and arrangements can be made to let you have it
either through the post of at the Waggon on Thursday evenings.
Charterhouse permits are available from Phil Townsend.
It Had To Happen – Blood Chits For Cheddar
The M.N.R.C. now controls access to all caves on the south
side of Cheddar Gorge, except the show caves. To enter any of the caves and rock shelters you must first have a permit
that has been issued to you by Colin Venus, the caving secretary of the M.N.R.C.
The caves affected by this scheme: –
Coopers Hole
Flint Jacks Cave (R.S.)
Greta Oones Hole
Honey Hole (R.S.)
Long Hole
Pigs Hole (R.S.)
Reservoir Hole
Says Hole
Soldiers Hole (R.S.)
Sows Hole (R.S.)
Totty Pot (R.S.)
White Spot Cave
Whitebeam Slitter Cave
Access to the caves is limited to the period November
March and the Blood Chit only covers one for this period if granted at
all! No digging or the use of explosives
in any of the caves and all cavers visiting the caves are held liable for third
party claims and the cost of any damage that they may do in the cave or
walking across the land to reach the cave is not clear. The charge levied for
each cave that is visited is 1/- per person per cave! quite an expensive
days outing. The real crunch, or nerve,
is the statement at the bottom of the blood chit which reads: this form must be submitted to Mr. Colin
Venus
..whereupon consideration will be given to the issue of a permit. How Venus can access your capabilities as a
caver without having been caving with you Ill never know still thats his
problem as the restricting access to the caves without gating them.
Because of the loose way in which the blood chit has been
compiled and the fact that the Hon. Secretary of the M.N.R.C., when contacted
recently, knew nothing of the scheme the best advice that can be given at the moment is dont sign
any paperwork regarding access to the Cheddar Caves. A meeting is being held in
Council of Southern Cave Clubs who will no doubt have some advice to give
cavers generally of this position.
CRG Meeting
Cave Research Group of
MEETING in WELLS
SWAN HOTEL (Ballroom) 4.30pm Saturday April 19th 1969
Programme:
4.30 The frequency of Severe Storms over the
Mendip Hills,
Jim Hanwell
4.50 The Ahnenschact Alan Thomas
5.10 Route Severity Diagrams Alfie Collins
5.30 Aspects of the new St. Cuthberts Swallet
survey
8.00pm a dinner to be held in the Parrot Room of the
Swan. Tickets from Alan Thomas at 21/-
each. Hurry along and get yours now,
numbers are limited!
4.00pm Tea cost 2/- per head.
B.E.C. Exhibition on Caves and Caving at the
for a fortnight from April 14th. Open
daily 10.00am 6.00pm. admission 1/6d.
A.W. + J.G. = S.S.D.
By Martin Webster
To some the name
rather deep pothole set in one of the more remote areas of the Allotment, on
the flanks of Ingleborough Hill in
the sort of place one should steer clear of if you want to stay healthy.
The description in P.U. does little to encourage the
inquisitive; dangerous traverses; long drops; vast amounts of tackle; the long
walk across the moor and the very excessive grading all help to deter the would
be explorers! While looking through a
certain caving magazine, some months ago, I came across an article by a well known
Yorkshire caver which described the final 200ft. pitch as one of the finest in
the country, so, spurred by this thought and rather hoggy crew at the
Hunters it was decided to book it up for the end of February.
At one time we were almost forced to call it off because of
heavy falls of snow a few days before the fateful day. By Friday night it was all melting rapidly
and so the team of six, Brian Woodward, Brian Talbot and Derek Harding of Bath
University, Bob Craig (S.M.C.C.), Colin Priddle and myself (B.E.C.) all piled
into the Bath university Transit and set off.
The camp site at Skirwith only had a thin layer of snow
covering it when we arrived at 12.30am with a gale force wind sweeping across
the hill resulting in our tent collapsing in the morning, rudely awakening all
inside.
We had decided to get to the cave from a point on the
Ribblehead Horton road as this would be about a mile shorter than the walk
from Clapham. We soon sound a suitable
parking spot, got changed and started to sort out the tackle. It was of course pouring with rain by this
time and the high wind also helped to make things even more pleasant! Some time later, after ploughing our way
through high level snowdrifts and crossing the tricky limestone pavements, the
entrance shaft was reached. There was
found that the normally 100ft. long chasm was completely covered, except for a
5ft. round hole by a huge snow drift!!! Again there was much running about and sorting of tackle, but
eventually, we laddered the 70ft. entrance pitch and started down it. At the bottom was a 20ft. high snow pile
which made the usually easy walk into a difficult ice climb! The walls of the shaft were encrusted with enormous
icicles and, on looking up, we noticed that what we had thought was solid
ground at the top, and had been leaping about on, was in fact just part of the
snow plug suspended above an 80ft. drop!
Suitably shaken we made our way down the ice climb, across a
very fragile snow bridge, which had the nasty habit of starting to dissipate
whenever anyone stepped on it, through a very cold 3ft. deep pool of water
which had large iceberg floating on it and so on to what is described in P.U.
as dangerous traverse at high level. This, as far as the end of the 40ft. pitch was probably the easiest part
of the cave and although we looked around we failed to find the dangerous
traverse at high level if anyone has seen one lurking around would they
please return it to: – Juniper Gulf, c/o The Allotment, Yorkshire! What is described as an awkward 40ft. pitch
in fact turned out to be two very easy 20ft. pitches both of which have a very
convenient flake belays (perhaps it was the wrong pitch). From the bottom the stream ran through a
small chamber and then sank to the bottom of a 20 30ft. deep rift. This was the first difficult traverse we had
encountered and this was only because we were carrying over 300ft. of ladder,
400ft. of rope, belays, krabs, pulleys etc. The traverse was rather longer than
we had expected, so, at the first reasonable looking 80ft. drop we came to we
laddered up. As it turned out the actual
80ft. pitch was some 60ft. further along the rift. When Bob descended he found that the ladder
was 10ft. off the ground. Returning to
the head of the pitch Bob and the rest of us re-laddered. This time there was ample ladder for the
pitch, unfortunately our lifeline was now too short to double lifeline and the
last man down had to remove his lifeline while still 30ft. above the floor and
the procedure was reversed for the return trip up the pitch. This is not recommended. The pitch was, in fact, quite well situated
as it came down into a small chamber with quite a nice cascade falling to the
left of the ladder. Sixty feet on the
down passage we came to where the pitch is normally laddered. Positioning of climbs however do not really
matter in this cave, unless it floods.
At the end of a short, wide traverse we came to a boulder
blockage. The easiest way pass was a
climb over the top, although a very tricky traverse underneath can be done but
is not recommended as two of us nearly peeled off. On the far side we entered a large dome shaped
chamber with a hole in the floor, which was obviously the head of the
200ft.pitch. After a short rest the
pitch was laddered and then the first lucky lad was thrust forward and forced
over the edge. No time was wasted on
this drop for as soon as one person was down the previous one was brought back
up. In this way the ladder was always in
use and there was a large hauling party at the top.
The climb was everything we had hoped it would be. The ladder hung free for 195ft. of its length
and the clean and beautiful coloured water worn walls gave the whole abyss a
look of magnificent, wild beauty which I have yet to see in another shaft. Half-way down a large waterfall could be seen
across the gulf, cascading down and disappearing into the vault below.
The bottom was a like huge spray swept vault, with the
stream falling down another 10ft. drop into the final rift. This proved to be 200ft. long and ended in a
large sump. A fitting end for such a
superb pothole. The ascent of the shaft
was quickly completed. The fastest
ascent of the day was by Brian Woodward, who shot up the ladder in 3½ minutes
20 seconds faster than his nearest rival! The return trip went very smoothly and by the time Brian and I, who had
stayed behind to de-tackle the double 20s, arrived at the entrance shaft, most
of the party had reached the surface. They had decided to practice the age old art of hauling. This consists of a hefty group of cavers
racing across the moor with the rope when someone is tied on the end; any shrieks
or howls which issue up the shaft are, of course, ignored.
Unfortunately they became a little carried away and I was
dragged over the lip at very high speed. Brian was even more unfortunate as he was lifted bodily off the ground
and hardly had time to touch the ladder!!
The equipment was soon packed away in the tackle bags and we
set off across the fell, and soon became lost! After an hour of tripping over rocks and disappearing into snow drifts
we found our way back, by a piece of brilliant navigation (pure luck) to the
wagon, and was soon to be consuming vast quantities of liquid refreshment and
convincing ourselves that our super-severe-day had really been enjoyable.
Extracts from the Caving Log
By Dave Irwin
The Caving Log (from 20th September 1968 to 1st March 1969)
gives an interesting breakdown. Out of a
total of 138 trips; 98 were in St. Cuthberts Swallet! Looking back in the log it is the first time
that Cuthberts has logged so many trips in a similar period. But there is also a great difference this
time out of the 98 trips were working trips; surveying, digging,
photographic, pushing various holes, dam building, replacing of tackle and
laying of guide lines in Victory Passage.
The Dining Room Dig has been continually dug on Tuesday
evenings (anyone interested in helping are welcome to come along 6.45pm at
the Belfry) and during the last four months the dig has been lengthened by over
60ft. to a total length of 120ft. On 6th
October, Dave Yendle and Colin Priddle (the day after the Annual Dinner as
well!) tried unsuccessfully to push a very tight hole in the Sump Passage
Oxbow. A fortnight later Pope and Tim
Hodgson hammered their way into a small extension just off Upper Traverse
Chamber opening up some 20ft. of new passage. The people that were also worried by the apparently poor fixings of the
Beehive Chamber chain can now relax in their armchairs and take a pill from
Norman Petty.
has replaced both of the chains in the Gour Hall area (10-11-68). At the request of the leaders at their last
meeting in November, Mike Palmer and Prew have laid guide lines through the
beautifully decorated Victory Passage. It will be hoped that leaders do not become too inquisitive when they
see a passage they had noted and cross the stal. to see it more clearly. Victory Passage has been thoroughly searched
for any possible extension and the result is that all of the possible extension
points have been blocked by stal. or solidly jammed boulders at the very end of
tight passages. Most of the work
mentioned above can be read in more detail in the April B.B.
The variety of tourist trips has been expanded and although
the nearest competitor to Cuthberts is Swildons (18 trips) the others have
ranged between Yorkshire and
leading the spearhead into the
potholes and slowly the SSPs are crumbling before this formidable force! Penyghent, Juniper and Gaping Ghyll have been
the attractions. Rumour has it that some
mighty tough trips are being arranged for the immediate future which should
make interesting reading in the B.B. In
occasion the leader of the party couldnt find the top entrance to OFD II
having only visited it two months before! In mid-Wales area the old favourite Aggy Summertime appears in the log
again. In near Wales, Roy Bennett and
Co. Ltd. have been active at the Chepstow dig anyone wishing to give Roy a
helping hand on Wednesday evenings should phone (after 2pm) no: OBR2/627813 and
make the necessary arrangements.
At home on Mendip, members have been down
Longwood, Goatchurch, Cuckoo Cleeves (surveying)
Hole. Roger Stenner has logged five more
trips into G.B. on his marathon water tracing study of this cave.