Belfry Bulletin No 201, November 1964

Contents

1 Annual List of Club Members Names and Addresses
2 The Belfry Will Be Closed
3 Climbing in November
4 Trip to Dachstein in Austria

Annual List of Club Members Names and Addresses

At the request of those members who make requests, we are
printing the annual list of members names and addresses in the November B.B.
this year, to give more time between the publication of the list and
Christmas. This will make the November
B.B. rather full and there will be little room for much else. However, we hope that the publication of the
list now will free more space in the Christmas B.B. for other, and perhaps more
interesting items.

528	K. Abbey	15 Gypsy Patch lane, Little Stoke, Bristol
306	T Andrews	135 Danson Road, Bexley, Kent
236	J. Attwood	4 Bridge Road, Shortwood, Nr. Mangosfield, Bristol
20	R.J. Bagshaw	699 Wells Road, Knowle, Bristol 4
358	D Balcombe	49 Shelford Road, Trumpington, Cambridge
546	R. Ball	13 Charis Avenue, Westbury-on-Trym, Bristol
290	R. Bater	108 Memorial Road, Hanam, Bristol
214	R. Bennett	3 Russets Cottages, Backwell Common, Somerset.
390	J. Bennett	3 Russets Cottages, Backwell Common, Somerset
451	D. Berry	1 York Place, St. Augustines , Brandon Hill, Bristol
417	P. Bird	City Museum, Queens Road, Bristol
364	P.M. Blogg	1 Ridgeway Park, Ridgeway, Bristol
336	A. Bonner	20 Sandfiedl Road, Cullercoats, North Shields, Northumberland
145	Miss S. Bowden-Lyle	P.O. Box 447, Durbro, N.S.W., Australia
573	Miss S. Bradshaw	55 Manor Park, Redland, Bristol 6
532	R.J. Brook	130 Sylvan Way, Sea Mills, Bristol 6
564	R. Broomhead	59 Kingshill Road, Knowle, Bristol 4
551	G. Bull	97 Queensgate, London, S.W.7
506	Miss R. Burnett	Clowes Villa, Station Road, Hatton-le-Hole, Co. Durham
488	M. Calvert	16 Wetherley Avenue, Old Down, Bath, Somerset
526	J. Churchward	1 Jamaica Street, Bristol
398	A. Coase	53 Broughton Road, Croft, leicestershire
211	Mrs C. Coase	c/o Lamont, 57 Etna Street, Gosfor, New South Wales, Australia
89	S.J. Collins	c/o Homeleigh, Bishop Sutton, Bristol
377	D. Cooke-Yarborough.	The Beeches, St. Briavels, Lydmney, Glos.
576	N. Cooper	3 West Terrace, Westbury, Sherborne, Dorset
494	J. Cornwell	26 Russell Road, Fishponds, Bristol
585	A.F. Corrigan	48A Talbot Road, Knowle, Bristol 4
71	A.J. Crawford	3 Hillside, Haverfield, Uxbridge, Middlesex
580	R.H. Crawford	685 Wells Road, Knowle, Bristol 4
405	F.G. Darbon	43 Arthur Henderson House, Fulham Road, Fulham, London
464	J. Davey	12 St. Annes Road, Skirsal Green, Halifax, Yorks
350	Mrs A. Davies	10 Bramley Road, Street, Somerset
472	R. Davies	Icknell Way House, A.E.R.E., Harwell, Berkshire
423	L. Dawes	223 Southwark Park Road, Bermonsey, S.E.16
424	Mrs. L. Dawes	223 Southwark Park Road, Bermonsey, S.E.16
449	G. Dell	225 Ground Liaison Section, R.A.F. Khormaksar, B.F.P.O. 69
164	K.C. Dobbs	85 Fox Road, Pinhoe, Exeter, Devon
553	R. Drake	83 Greenbank Road, Eastville, Bristol 5
563	J. Dryden	1 Beauforst East, London Road, Bath, Somerset
325	A.J. Dunn	63 Oakdale Road, Downend, Bristol
331	J.A.Etough	116 Newbridge Road, Brislington, Bristol
322	B.M. Ellis	Knowkauns, Combwich, Bridgwater, Somerset
263	D. England	7 Frome Way, Winterbourne, Bristol
232	C. Falshaw	57 Hallen Grange Crescent, Lodge Moor, Sheffield 10
496	P.G. Faulkner	251 Rowah Crescent, Langley, Middleton, Manchester
453	D. Ford	Address unknown
278	S. Fowler	Officers Mess, R.A.F. Locking, Weston-Super-Mare, Som
468	K. Franklin	20 Clayton Street, Avonmouth, Bristol
469	P. Franklin	20 Clayton Street, Avonmouth, Bristol
269	T. Fletcher	The Old Mill House, Parnack, Stamford, Lincs
371	A. Fincham	Leeds University Union, Leeds 2
470	P.M. Giles	2J6 C.P.O.s Mess, H.M.S. Ark Royal, G.P.O., London
434	D. Greenwood	19 Green Croft Avenue, Northrowan, Halifax, Yorks
566	P.E. Griffin	121 Colston Road, Easton. Bristol 5.
388	J. Goodwind	11 Glen Arm Walk, Brislington, Bristol 5
239	D. Gwinnel	34 Gatehouse Close, Withywood, Bristol 3
478	S. Grimes	R.N. Test Squadron, A & A.E.E. Boscombe Down, Amesbury, Wilts
582	C. Hall	29 Abbostfield Road, Redlands, Bristol
432	N.P. Hallett	7 Cobverley, Footshill, Kingswood, Bristol
104	M. Hannam	31 Devonshire, Pinawa, Manitoba, Canada
537	N. Hart	8 Ridgeway Road, Long Ashton, Bristol
304	C.W. Harris	4 Market Place, Wells, Somerset
581	C. Harvey	Byways, Brittens, Paulton, Nr. Bristol
4	D. Hassell	Hill House, Moorlynch, Bridgwater, Somerset
587	D.G. Hewitt	21 Clarendon Road, Redland, Bristol 6
436	J.W. Hill	100 Cotham Brow, Cotham, Bristol 6
373	S. Hobbs	Hockerstone Cottage, Townsend, Priddy, Wells, Somerset
387	G. Honey	34 Knightsbridge Walk, Billericay, essex
97	J. Ifold	Leigh House, Nempnett, Chew Stoke, Somerset.
150	P. Ifold	Sunnyside, Rectory Lane, Compton Martin, Somerset
363	M.J. Isles	89 Broad Walk, Knowle, Bristol 4
540	D. Irwin	9 Campden Hill Gardens, London W.8
438	Miss P. Irwin	c/o Mrs. Sutur, 4 Albert Street, Bangor, North Wales
555	G.M. Jackson	113 Marissal Road, Henbury, Bristol
522	R. Jarman	c/o South Chase Farm, Chase Lane, Kenilworth, Warwickshire
51	A. Johnson	Warren Cottage, Station Road, Flax Bourton, Somerset
560	F. Jones	9 Waterloo Street, Clifton, Bristol 8
285	U. Jones	Marsh Farm, Askem In Furness, Lancs.
529	Miss V. Jones	46 Shakespeare Avenue, Horfield, Bristol
579	P.R. Kempson	9 Fossedale Avenue, Bristol 4
567	A.J. Kennett	9 Belmont Road, Redland, Bristol 6
316	R.S. King	22 Parkfield Rank, Pucklechurch, Bristol
542	P. Kingston	3 Kingsely Road, Eastville, Bristol 5
429	R. Kinsman	24 Linden Lane, Princetown, New Jersey, U.S.A.
413	R. Kitchen	2^nd Batt. Royal Ang. Regiment, Alexandra Barracks, Dhekelia, B.F.P.O. 53
456	T. Knight	61 Worton Way, Isleworth, Middlesex
475	B.T. Lane	107 Feeder Road, St. Phillips, Bristol 2
574	Dr. O.C. Lloyd	Withey House, Withey Close West, Westbury-on-Trym, Bristol
495	M. Luckwill	52 Clifton Down Road, Clifton, Bristol 8
58	G.T. Lucy	Pike Croft, Long Lane, Tilehurst, Reading, Berks.
550	R.A. MacGregor	The Railway Arms, Station Road, Theale, Reading, Berks.
561	J. Major	10 Blenheim Road, Redland, Bristol 6
275	C. Marriott	718 Muller Road, Eastville, Bristol 5
415	T. Marston	28 Creston Road, Creston, Plymouth, Devon
106	E.J.Mason	11 Kendon Drive Wellington Hill West, Westbury-on-Trym, Bristol
558	A.J. Meaden	1 Churchfield, Wincanton, Somerset
339	G. Mossman	33 Whateleys End Road, Winterbourne, Bristol
308	K. Murray	17 Harrington Gardens, South Kensington, London, S.W.7
386	A. Nash	Security Office, G,(int) H.Q. Brirish Land Forces, Kenya, B.F.P.O. 10
586	G.R. Neilson	23 Hogarth Walk, Lockleaze, Bristol 7
557	D. Palmer	9 Forest Road, Kingswood, Bristol
396	M.A. Palmer	111A Winner Street, Paignton, Devon
492	Miss S.E. Paul	21 Lovelace Road, Surbiton, Surrey
22	L. Peters	21 Melbury Road, Knowle, Bristol 4
160	N. Petty	12 Bankside Road, Brislington, Bristol
499	A. Philpot	3 Kings Drive, Bishopston, Bristol
56	G. Platten	Rutherfield, Fernhill Lane, New Milton, Hants.
568	Miss B. Plummer	2 Hogarth Walk, Lockleaze, Bristol
450	G. Pointing	10 Green Lane, Avonmouth, Bristol
337	B. Prewer	East View, West Horrington, Nr. Wells, Somerset
342	R.J. Price	2 Weekes Road, Bishop Sutton, Somerset
503	D. Quicke	Address unknown
291	D. Radmore	2 Dunkeld Road, Filton, Bristol
481	J. Ransom	15 South View, Lenthay, Sherborne, Dorset
258	C.H.G. Rees	7 Coberley Road, Footshill, Hanham, Bristol
452	Mrs Rees	7 Coberley Road, Footshill, Hanham, Bristol
552	B. Reynolds	76 Hampton Road, Redland, Bristol 6
241	A.L.C.Rice	20 Filton Avenue, Horfield, Bristol 7
343	A. Rich	c/o Pox 126, Basham, Alberta, Canada
443	R.J. Roberts	5 Bennett Street, Bath, Somerset
489	Mrs Robinson	10 Linden Road, Redland, Bristol 6
490	G. Robinson	10 Linden Road, Redland, Bristol 6
569	Miss J. Rowlands	15 Eden Crowe, Bristol
240	A. Sandall	43, Meadway Avenue, Nailsea, Somerset.
359	Mrs. A. Sandall	43, Meadway Avenue, Nailsea, Somerset
237	B.M. Scott	Abbotscroft, 45 Chilkwell Street, Glastonbury, Somerset
577	D. Searle	55 Langton Park, Southville, Bristol 3
578	Mrs. D. Searle	55 Langton Park, Southville, Bristol 3
482	G. Selby	38 Hawkes Lane, Wells, Somerset
508	A. Selway	15 Street Martins Road, Knowle, Bristol 4
78	R. Setterington	4 Galmington Lane, Taunton, Somerset
533	Mrs R. Setterington	4 Galmington Lane, Taunton, Somerset
213	R. Setterington	5 Moycullen Court. 96 Maida Vale, London W.9
425	J. Simonds	Coryndon Museum Centre, Box 30239, Nairobi, Kenya
556	C.J. Slavin	340 Speedwell Road, St. George, Bristol
562	J. Slapp	10 Thicket Road, Thornbury, Bristol
565	W.J. Smart	38 Glenwood Road, Mill Hill, London N.W.7
473	D. Smith	3 Providence Place, Reading, Berks.
276	J. Stafford	Wern Isaf, Pethel, Cearns
38	Mrs. I. Stanbury	74, Redcatch Road, Knowle, Bristol. 4.
1	T.H. Stanbury	6 Aubrey Road, Bristol 3
547	W. Stanton	Crabtrees, Wraxhill Close, Street, Somerset
575	J.D. Statham	117 Belmont Road, Bristol 6
570	Miss J. Steadman	194 Romney Avenue, Lockleaze, Bristol 7
365	R. Stenner	38 Paultow Road, Victoria Park, Bristol 3
381	Mrs. Stenner	38 Paultow Road, Victoria Park, Bristol 3
60	P.A. Stewart	11 Fairhaven Road, Redland, Bristol 6
572	P. Sutton	56 Arley Hill, Redland, Bristol 6
514	E.P. Tackle	29 Haydon Gardens, Romey Gardens, Lockleaze, Bristol 7
583	D. Targett	16 Phillis Hill, Midsomer Norton, Bath, Somerset
284	A. Thomas	Westhaven School, Uphill, Weston s Mare, Somerset
571	N.L. Thomas	The Paddocks, Charlton Down, Andover Hants.
497	M. Thomson	7 New Street, Wells, Somerset
498	Mrs. M. Thompson	7 New Street, Wells, Somerset
502	G. Tilly	Jable, Digby Road, Sherborne, Dorset
584	Miss O. Tomlinson	Weyside gardens, Guildford, Surrey
74	J. Tompsett	Mallins, Lodge Avenue, Great Baddow, Chelmsford, Essex
80	Mrs. D. Tompsett	Mallins, Lodge Avenue, Great Baddow, Chelmsford, Essex
326	E. Towler	5 Boxgrove Gardens, Aldwick, Bognor Regis, Sussex
544	P. Townsend	154 Sylvia Avenue, Lower Knowle, Bristol 3
512	N. Tuck	33 St. Arvans Road, Cwmbran, Monmouthshire
157	Mrs. J. Tuck	33 St. Arvans Road, Cwmbran, Monmouthshire
382	S. Tuck	13 Hanbury Road, Clifton, Bristol 8
	Mrs. S. Tuck	13 Hanbury Road, Clifton, Bristol 8
175	Mrs. D. Waddon	32 Laxton Close, Taunton, Somerset
79	R.M. Wallis	55 Fluin Lane, Frodsham, Warrington, Lancs
536	R.E. Webster	131 Eastville Road, Westbury-on-Trym, Bristol
538	C.D. West	21 Douglas Road, Hollywood, Birmingham
539	R.A. West	21 Douglas Road, Hollywood, Birmingham
525	D. Weston	10 Woodcroft Road, Brislington, Bristol 4
441	G.O. Weston	126 Woodside Road, Beaumont Park, Huddersfield
442	Mrs. G. Weston	126 Woodside Road, Beaumont Park, Huddersfield
397	M. Wheadon	Maplecroft, Bradford-on-Avon, Wilts
553	R. White	22 Bayham Road, Knowle, Bristol 4
520	C. Wildgoose	18 Baileybrook Drive, Langley Mill, Notts
549	A.J. Williams	54 Crossways, Roggiett, Newport, Monmouthshire
559	B. Wilton	22 Wedmore Vale, Knowle, Bristol 4
509	R. Wilmut	36 Rudthorpe Road, Horfield, Bristol 7

In addition, Joan Bennett who is in charge of the Postal
Dept. this year has sent in the following additions and changes

M. Luckwill, Newhaven,

139 Dudley St.,
Belston, Staffs.

S.A.
Lee, 1 Coliseum Terrace,

Albany
Street,
London
N.W.1
D. Quicke,

26 Oresfielde Avenue,
Elland Yorks

Still on the subject of names and addresses, we have
received a note from Jill Tuck (who some of you may remember as Jill Rollason
she recently married Norma Tuck and incidentally, congratulations and best
wished to both of you!) announcing a change of address, which is now 48 Wiston
Path, Fairwater, Cwmbran, Mon. She says
that Norman and herself will be very pleased to see any club members who happen
to be passing that way, which is only a few miles south of Aggy Aggy.

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The A.G.M. of the C.R.G. will be held this year at the
Temperance Hall,

Sackville Street,
Skipton, Yorks on

The Belfry Will Be Closed

The Belfry will be closed to all except a chosen working
party for the weekend 18-20th December. The building has been examined by Pat Ifold and, although no dry rot has
been found (it would mean the extremely rapid end of the Belfry if this did
rear its ugly head) the conditions are ripe for it to appear unless some pretty
drastic steps are taken now.

It is necessary, therefore, to fit guttering to the font and
rear of the building and gradually replace all the rotten timber. Unfortunately, this includes one of the beams
on which the building stands. In order
to replace it, the whole building must be lifted on screw jacks. This is why the building must be closed for
the weekend. I hope that the choice of
the weekend immediately before Christmas will inconvenience the fewest number
of people.

Since becoming Belfry Engineer, I have been delighted with
the willing way that people muscle in and lend a hand. Few indeed dont help. After all, somebody built the place and we
have a duty to maintain it. The builders
of the Belfry were active cavers, many of whom have wasted several years of
their youth in the forces, and their time was precious enough. We are privileged to have inherited the
finest social club in the world. Please
come along and help keep it!

Alan Thomas

Climbing in November

In the short space of two months, it has been possible to
sample extremes of weather in
North Wales.

Early September was warm and sunny and short energetic
climbs were followed by long idle hours sunbathing on the little beach in Cwm
Idwal. During mid October, snow fell and
a hazardous fight along Crib Gogh in a snowstorm was followed by hot showers at
the ever hospitable Staffords. The next
day was outstandingly beautiful, with snow clad summits under blue skies as a
very alpine traverse was made across the Glyders.

Conditions for the club trip on the 14-15th of November were
again extreme but simple. There was
simply an excessive wind. Gale force
winds buffeting and making tents almost inhabitable, pouring over ridges and
staggering the balance of climbers crouched against the blast.

Arriving at Gwern-y-gof Isaf, the Sandalls, Norman Petty,
Barry Wilton and Ruth Hammer preffred the stability of the barn while Mo, Eddie
Welch, Roy Bennett, Mark James and Kangy camped (Ruth, Eddie and Mark are prospective
members). The climbing accomplished must
be viewed against a background of a noisy, cold, tearing wind. In these conditions, fingers freeze and
progress is slow and made by synchronising movements with lulls. Sudden gusts are made by gripping, huddling
with cheek close to rock, and hoping. Mo
and Eddie did well to complete the Sub Cneifon Arête. Roy and Ruth, Mark and Kangy climbed Pinnacle
Rib then on up and over the Glyders. Chasm Route on Glyder Fach was also climbed by Roy and Mo with Ruth,
while others walked in wind and hail.

An invigorating trip, with far more snatched from the
weekend than at first seemed possible.

Kangy

Trip to Dachstein in

Austria

During the last year or so, the feeling has grown amongst
some members that the B.E.C. should be taking a more active interest in serious
speleological projects. Amongst those
considered were the investigation and subsequent exploration of some foreign
caving area.

After due consideration, the area decided upon, and approved
by the committee was in

Austria
the Dachstein Massif. This is located
immediately to the south of
Lake Hallstatt,
about 35 miles from Saltsburg, and forms one of the units comprising the
Northern Calcareous Alps of Austria. In
the cave region is found the Dachstein Limestone, the highest series of beds
which is about 7,500 feet thick and consist of unaltered and dolomitic
limestones with reff facies. The Massif
is bounded to the north by the river Traum flood plain at 2,000 feet, so the
available limestone for cave development is about 5,500 feet. Some work has already been done in the area
by the Austrians and also by the B.S.A. in the neighbouring Tannengebirge. This is a similar karst type plateau to the
Dachstein. Judging by the caves already
known, there would be plenty of scope for all types of cavers on the
expedition. Those who prefer long
ladder pitches will be catered for, but those preferring Mendip type caving
will find plenty to occupy and interest them. It is essential to know an approximate number of people who will be
going on this trip as soon as possible, as accommodation may be limited. One may stay in guest houses in the valley,
in mountain huts on the plateau, or camp at either place. It is anticipated that transport will be by
private vehicle as far as is possible and the duration of stay either 2 or 3
weeks. Dates will have to be arranged
when it is known who can definitely go, but it will have to be restricted to
late July or early August for weather reasons. Finally, and perhaps the most important item, the cost is thought to be
no more than about £30 per person per fortnight. Please, if you are interested, give your
names to myself, Keith Franklin or Roy Bennett.

Editors Note: I should have written; Mo Marriott
instead of Keith Franklin, who wrote the above article.

Annual List of Club Members Names and Addresses

The Belfry Will Be Closed

Climbing in November

Trip to Dachstein in Austria

Annual List of Club Members Names and Addresses

Trip to Dachstein in

Austria