Belfry Bulletin No 236, November 1967 - Bristol Exploration Club %

Contents

1 From the Hon. Secretary.
2 Letter to the Editor.
3 Notice
4 Membership List
5 THE AGGY DIVE
- 5.1 (Ogof Agen Allwedd) November 11th, 1967
6 Letter to the Editor

From the Hon. Secretary.

Dear Member,

I have spoken to several people recently who say that they
have not been asked to contribute to the Belfry Building Fund. There is no time like the present. Please if the B.E.C. means anything to you
and you can afford it, will you make a gift of money for the fund? A number of members have already signed
Bankers Orders to give the club specifically for building a new Belfry – £1
per month for three years. CAN YOU? If a total of fifty members did this, we
would have little to worry about. Each
of these people would, over three years, give the club £36, but each week they
would have only parted with the price of twenty fags OR two pints of beer. Perhaps you cant afford to do this. Well, any other gifts, however large or
small, will be gladly received. Three
people so far have offered to lend the club £100. Are there any other offers?

Will anyone who intends to contribute anything towards the
new Belfry please get in touch with Bobby Bagshaw before Christmas so that the
committee can take vital decisions at the January meeting.

Yours Sincerely,
Alan Thomas.

P.S. It would help
the clubs cash position if we reduced the stock of club ties (17/6 each plus
postage) and car badges (15/- each plus postage). Postage is 1/6 in each case. How about treating yourself to a new tie or
badge for Christmas?

Letter to the Editor.

Dear Editor

I have very little experience of cave surveying, but the
query in the October B.B. seemed to provide an interesting armchair exercise.

However, after being misled by the diagram and wasting much
drinking time, I got back to first principles. If my interpretation of the figure in the B.B. is correct, and we are
concerned with one side of a triangle whose other two sides are 7.42 and
0.75, then the unknown must be between 6.67 and 8.17. This range is only 1.5 and I would have thought
this smaller than the usual errors to be expected in cave surveying. If, as appears from the diagram, the unknown
is greater than 7.42 then a figure of 7.795 could be used as the maximum
error is only 4.5

Non-perfectionist

Any comments from cave surveyors? (Ed)

Notice

Would all energetic B.E.C. members who live within the

London area, and are
willing to partake in the helping of a JUMBLE SALE in aid of B.E.C. funds
contact CEDRIC GREEN, 6 SPRING STREET, PADDINGTON, W.2. TELEPHONE PAD 6941.

Membership List

The annual list of members names and addresses follows on
the next few pages. If any member knows
of any error in this list, will he please contact PHIL TOWNSEND whose address
he will find correctly printed in the lists. Clare Coasee address is such one wrongly announced. It should be 5 Mandalay Flats,

10 Elsiemer St.,
LONG JETTY, N.S.W. 2262,

Australia.

K. Abbey	15 Gypsey Patch Lane, Little Stoke, Bristol
P.G.R. Allen	4 St. Lucia Close, Horfield, Bristol 4
T. Andrews	186 Courtlands Avenue, London S.E.12
O.E. Atwell	57 Sandy Leaze, Westbury-n-Trym, Bristol
J. Attwood	64 Main Road, Shortwood, Nr. Mangosfield, Bristol
R.J. Bagshaw	699 Wells Road, Knowle, Bristol 4
M.J. Baker	22 Riverside Garden, Midsomer Norton, Somerset
D Balcombe.	49 Shelford Road, Trumpington, Cambridge
J.C. Ball	4 Church Row, Stratton-on-the-Fosse, Bath, Somerset
R. Bater	20 Woodlands Glade, Swiss Valley, Clevedon, Somerset
K. Barnes.	24 Missile Regt., R.A., Padderborn, BFPO 16
R. Bater	40, Thornleigh Road, Horfield, Bristol 7
Mrs. R. Bater	40, Thornleigh Road, Horfield, Bristol 7
R. Bennett	8 Radnor Road, Westbury-on-Trym, Bristol
J. Bennett	8 Radnor Road, Westbury-on-Trym, Bristol
D. Berry	10 Green Lane, Avonmouth, Bristol
P. Bird	City Museum, Queens Road, Bristol
P. Blogg	Hunters Field, Chaldon Common Road, Chaldon, Surrey
P. Bridges	51 Rockhill, Wellsway, Keynsham, Somerset
B. Britton	108c Cheltenham Road, Bristol 6
A. Bonner	14 Monkseaton Drive, Whiteley Bay, Northumberland
M. Bourne	55 Argyle Road, Fishponds, Bristol
Miss S. Bowden-Lyle	17 Rokeby Avenue, Redland, Bristol 6
R.J. Brook	c/o Cawthorn Institute, P.O. Box 175, Nelson, New Zealand
N. Brooks	9 Martin Grove, Normandale, Lower Hutt, New Zealand
R. Broomhead	The Somme Co., R.M.A. Sandhurst, Camberley, Surrey
G.A. Bull	9 Campden Hill Gardens, London W.8
J.J.. Butler	36 Tothill Street, Minster, Ramsgate, Kent
M. Calvert	Flat 2, Winscombe Court, Winscombe Hill, Winscombe, Somerset
J. Churchward	1 Jamaica Street, Bristol
C. Clark	18 Church Lane, Bedminster, Bristol 3
A. Coase	53 Broughton Road, Croft, Leicestershire
Mrs C. Coase	c/o Lamont, 57 Etna Street, Gosfor, New South Wales, Australia
P.M. Coles	32 Derham Park, Yatton, Bristol
S. Collins	c/o Homeleigh, Bishop Sutton, Bristol
P. Compton	88 Course, Offgicers Mess, RAF Gaydon, Leamington, Warks.
D. Cooke-Yarborough.	Lot 11, McKay Crescent, Orange, New South Wales, Australia
N. Cooper	3 West Terrace, Westbury, Sherborne, Dorset
J. Cornwell	419 Whitehall Road, Street George, Bristol
D. Craig	Flat 4, 78 Milson Road, London W.14
B. Crewe	20 Riveside Gardens, Bath, Somerset.
I.M. Daniels	3 Oakleigh Ave., Tolworth, Surbiton, Surrey
J. Davey	32 Cheltenham Gardens, Huddersfield Road, Halifax, Yorkshire
F.G. Darbon	43 Arthur Henderson House, Fulham Road, Fulham, London
Mrs A. Davies	Withey Lane, Neighbourne, Oakhill, Bath
Miss P.M. Davies	410 Wells Road, Knowle, Bristol 4
L Dawes	223 Southwark Park Road, Bermondsey, London S.E.10
Mrs L. Dawes	223 Southwark Park Road, Bermondsey, London S.E.10
G. Dell	23128511 L/Cpl. Dell, Printing Press, 30 BN43, BOD, Singapore
P.L. Derrick	49 Mayfield Park South, Fishponds, Bristol
K.C. Dobbs	85 Fox Road, Pinhoe, Exeter, Devon
N. Downes	18 Coombe Street Lane, Yeovil, Somerset
A.J. Dunn	63 Oakdale Road, Downend, Bristol
J.A.Etough	116 Newbridge Road, Brislington, Bristol
B.M. Ellis	Knowkauns, Combwich, Bridgwater, Somerset
C. Falshaw	23 Hallen Grange Crescent, Lodge Moor, Sheffield
P.G. Faulkner	251 Rowah Crescent, Langley, Middleton, Manchester
T. Fletcher	The Old Mill House, Barnack, Nr, Stamford, Lincs.
A. Francis	22 Hervey Road, Wells, Somerset
K. Franklin	52 Rockingham House, Lawrence Weston, Bristol
P. Franklin	52 Rockingham House, Lawrence Weston, Bristol
M. Gaskell	23663966, Pte. Gaskill M, IOVE H Coy., RAOC, BFPO 56, El-Adem, Lybia.

P.M. Giles	C.P.O.s Mess, R.N.A.S. Yeovilton, Yeovil, Somerset
K. Gladman	93 Broad Walk, Kidbourne, London, S.E.3
D. Glover	Leisure, Green Lane, Pamber Green, Nr. Basingstoke, Hants.
P.R. Godley	10 Hurstwood Avenue, Brentwood, Essex.
C.D. Gooding	43 Monmouth Road, Bishopston, Bristol
D. Greenwood	42 St. davids Drive, South Anstosn, Sheffield
C. Green	6 Spring Street, Paddington, London W.2
S. Grimes	43 Coates Gardens, Edinburgh 12
D. Gwinnel	Sgts. Mess, 30 Signal Regiment, Blandford, Dorset
C. Hall	375 Fishponds Road, Eastville, Bristol
N. Hallett	21 Southfield Road, Bristol 6
E.J.Handy	2 Coleshill Drive, Hartcliffe, Bristol
M. Hannam	c/o Phoenix Grove, Bristol 6
N. Hart	Barberry House, Kingston, Seymour, Somerset
D. Hassell	Hill House, Moorlynch, Bridgwater, Somerset
Hawksford, L/Cpl. A	Depot & TRG Establishment, Deepcut, Camberley, Surrey
J.R. Henderson	8 Oldfields Place, Hotwells, Bristol
Miss A. Henley	23 Maynard Road, Hartcliffe, Bristol
G. Higham	17 Baglyn ave., Kingswood, Bristol
B. Hewitt	21 Clarendon Road, Redland, Bristol 6
J.W. Hill	14C TRhe Orchard, High Street, Lower Cam, Nr Dursley, Glos.
S. Hobbs	Hokerstone Cottage, Townsend, Priddy, Wells, Somerset
T.H. Hogdoon	4 Lansdown Road, Clifton, Bristol 8
Miss D. Holden	Wetherlam, Wooley Green, Bradford-on-Avon, Somerset
G. Honey
Mr. Howe	48 Martins Road, Hanham, Bristol
Mrs Howe	48 Martins Road, Hanham, Bristol
P.G. Hudson	25 Derness Road, Bishop Aukland, Co. Durham
J. Ifold	Leigh House, Nempnett, Chew Stoke, Somerset.
P. Ifold	The Cedars, Blackford, Wedmore, Somerset
D.J. Irwin	9 Campden Hill Gardens, London W.8
Miss P. Irwin	c/o White House, West Ashling, Chichester, Sussex
Jackman, SAC A.	c/o M.C.U., R.A.F. Muharrac (Bahrain) B.F.P.O.63
J.M. James	68 Linden Road, Bristol 6
R. Jarman	Hillside, Stockton, Nr. Rugby
M. Jeanmaire	375 Fishponds Road, Eastville, Bristol
R.L. Jenkins	18 Camberley Close, Downend, Bristol
Miss J.M. Jewell	Diamond Cottage, Soke Road, Silchester, Nr. Reading, Berks.
A. Johnson	Warren Cottage, Station Road, Flax Bourton, Somerset
F. Jones	c/o 8 York Gardens, Clifton, Bristol
U. Jones	Marsh Farm, Askem In Furness, Lancs.
R. Keeley	4 The Green, Ham Green, Pill, Bristol
A.J. Kennett	9 Belmont Road, Bristol 6
R.S. King	22 Parkfield Rank, Pucklechurch, Bristol
P.A. Kingston	3 Kingsely Road, Eastville, Bristol 5
R.F. Kitchen	25 Furse Hill Road, Tidworth, Hants.
J. Lamb	Broadmeadows, Padstowe Road, Wadebridge, Cornwall
B.T. Lane	37 Pendennis Park, Brislington, Bristol
T.E. Large	9 Margarets Buildings, Brock Street, Bath, Somerset
Miss A.M. Lester	1 Crowndale Road, Knowle, Bristol
O.C. Lloyd	Withey House, Withey Close West, Westbury-on-Trym, Bristol
M. Luckwill	8 Greenslade Road, Sedgley Hall Estate, Sedgley, Dudley, Worcs.
J.Laycock	Kimbrose Hotelk, Commercial Road, Gloucester
G.T. Lucy	Pike Croft, Long Lane, Tilehurst, Reading, Berks.
R.A. MacGregor	The Railway Arms, Station Road, Theale, Reading, Berks.
P. Macnab	121 Gilmore Place, Edinburgh 3
McKee	3 Woodside Close, Burton Joyce, Notts
Mrs McKee	3 Woodside Close, Burton Joyce, Notts
J. Major	Saint Cross, Green Down, Litton, Bath, Somerset
Mrs. J. Major	Saint Cross, Green Down, Litton, Bath, Somerset
C. Marriott	Brulbergstrasse 15, Apt. 21, 8400 Winterhur, Switzerland
R. Marshall	23 Highbury Villas, Bristol 2
T. Marston	83 Maple Grove, Plympton, Devon
A. Meaden	The Post Office & Stores, Cross in Hand, Nr. Heathfield, Sussex
T.G. Mossman	33 Whateleys End Road, Winterbourne, Bristol
N.J. Monk	7 Little Stoke Road, Bristol
K. Murray	17 Harrington Gardens, South Kensington, London, S.W.7
D.W. Musselwhite	143 london Road, Calne, Wilts.
A. Nash	c/o 22 Stuart Lane, Bristol 3
F.L. Newport	43 Swiss Road, Ashton Vale, Bristol 3
H. Oakley	Medical Staff, Frenchay Hospital, Bristol
R. Orr	10 Orchard Gate, Colin Park Road, London N.W.9
D. Palmer	29 John Wesley Road, St. George, Bristol 5
M.A. Palmer	c/o Hooper Avenue, Wells Somerset
Miss J. Parker	68 Delhi Road, Pitsea, Basildon, Essex
Miss S.E. Paul	21 Lovelace Road, Surbiton, Surrey
J.F.W. Pearce	6 Lyveden Road, Blackheath, London S.E.3
R. Pepper	Frenchay Lodge Bungalow, Frenchay, Bristol
L. Peters	21 Melbury Road, Knowle, Bristol 4
N. Petty	12 Bankside Road, Brislington, Bristol
R.A. Philpot	3 Kings Brive, Bishopston, Bristol
G. Platten	Rutherfield, Fernhill Lane, New Milton, Hants.
Miss B. Plummer	2 Hogarth Walk, Lockleaze, Bristol
G. Pointing	10 Green Lane, Avonmouth, Bristol
B. Prewer	East View, West Horrington, Nr. Wells, Somerset
R.J. Price	c/o GPO Kidsgrove, Stoke-on-Trent, Staffs.
C. Priddle	19 Stottbury Road, Horfield, Bristol 7
J. Ransom	9 Archfield Road, Cotham, Bristol
Mrs Ransom	9 Archfield Road, Cotham, Bristol
I. Rees	30 Ramsey Road, Horfield, Bristol 7
C.H.G. Rees	7 Coberley Road, Footshill, Hanham, Bristol
Mrs Rees	7 Coberley Road, Footshill, Hanham, Bristol
D.L. Rebori	11 Kellaway Avenue, Westbury Park, Bristol
A. Rich	c/o Pox 126, Basham, Alberta, Canada
D. Richards	59 Brook Road, Fishponds, Bristol
A.L. Richards	11 Tenison Road, Soth Norwood, Bristol 7
R.J. Roberts	5 Bennett Street, Bath, Somerset
Mr Robinson	49 Elton Road, Bishopston, Bristol 7
Mrs Robinson	49 Elton Road, Bishopston, Bristol 7
Miss J. Rowlands	115 Eden Grove, Horfield, Bristol
A. Rushton	c/o R.A.F. Post Office, Wittering, Stamford, Lincs
A. Sandall	43, Meadway Avenue, Nailsea, Somerset.
Mrs. A. Sandall	43, Meadway Avenue, Nailsea, Somerset
P.M. Scragg	5 Randolph Avenue, Westcliff, Bristol
Miss G. Scaplehorn	Pamela Wills Norse Home, Chew Stoke, Somerset
D. Searle	Dolphin Cottage, Priddy, Nr. Wells, Somerset
Mrs. D. Searle	Dolphin Cottage, Priddy, Nr. Wells, Somerset
G. Selby	c/o Prewer, East View, West Horrington, Wells, Somerset
R.J. Sell	51 Swiss Road, Ashton Vale, Bristol 3
A. Selway	15 Street Martins Road, Knowle, Bristol 4
R. Setterington.	4 Cavendish House, Cavendish Road, Chiswick, London, W 4
R. Setterington	4 Galmington Lane, Taunton, Somerset
Mrs R. Setterington	4 Galmington Lane, Taunton, Somerset
C.J. Slavin	340 Speedwell Road, St. George, Bristol
W.J. Smart	c/o Richard Costain Ltd., Aberthaw (B) Power Station, Aberthaw, Barry, Glam
D. Smith	Flat 15, 193 Welesley Road, Coley Park, Reading, Berks.
J. Stafford	Bryher, Badgworth, Nr. Axbridge, Somerset
Mrs. I. Stanbury	74, Redcatch Road, Knowle, Bristol. 4.
T.H. Stanbury	31, Belvoir Road, Street Andrews, Bristol
J.D. Statham	43 Coates Gardens, Edinburgh 12
R. Stenner	38 Paultow Road, Victoria Park, Bristol 3
Mrs. Stenner	38 Paultow Road, Victoria Park, Bristol 3
P. Sutton	56 Arley Hill, Redland, Bristol 6
B.M. Scott	Crew Reporting Office, BOAC, London Airport, Hounslow, Middlesex
D. Targett	16 Phillis Hill, Midsomer Norton, Bath, Somerset
A. Thomas	Westhaven School, Uphill, Weston s Mare, Somerset
D.M. Thomas	Mantoins, 2 St. Paul Road, Tupsley, Hereford
N.L. Thomas	Holly lofge, Norwich Road, Salhouse, Norwich, Norfolk
S. Thompson	51 Hayward Road, Redfield, Bristol 5
G. Tilly	Jable, Digby Road, Sherborne, Dorset
J. Tompsett	11 Lodge Avenue, Great Baddow, Chelmsford, Essex
Mrs. D. Tompsett	11 Lodge Avenue, Great Baddow, Chelmsford, Essex
E. Towler	5 Boxgrove Gardens, Aldwick, Bognor Regis, Sussex
P. Townsend	154 Sylvia Avenue, Lower Knowle, Bristol 3
Mrs. J. Tuck	48 Wiston Path, Fairwater, Cwmbran, Monmouthshire
S. Tuck	27 Woodbury Avenue, Wells Somerset
P.J. Turner	21 Northfield, Stanshawes Estate, Yate
S.A. Tuttlebury	Flat 1, santakand, Prior Road, Camberley, Surrey
R.J. Voke	8 Pavey Road, Hartcliffe, Bristol 3
Mrs. D. Waddon	32 Laxton Close, Taunton, Somerset
R. Wallis	174 Bryants Hill, Bristol 5
D. Warburton	20 Beverley Court Road, Quinton, Birmingham 32
M.R. Webster	43 Shroud road, Patchway, Bristol
D. Weston	Maryvale, 2 Folloton, Totnes, Devon
R. White	The Moorings, Porton Road, Churhdown, Gloucester
M. Wheadon	Sharlyn, Chilcompton Road, Misomer Norton, Nr. Bath, Somerset
A.J. Whiteman	1 Golden Road, Clifton, Bristol 8
R. Wickens	2 Cherry Garden Road, Canterbury, Kent
P.A. Wilkins	51 Constable Road, Lockleaze, Bristol
A.J. Williams	54 Crossways, Roggiett, Newport, Monmouthshire
B. Wilton	22 Wedmore Vale, Knowle, Bristol 4
E.G. Welch	Frenchay Lodge Bungalow, Frenchay, Bristol
G.S. Watts	59 Southbrow House, Duckmoor Road, Ashton, Bristol 3

THE AGGY DIVE

(Ogof Agen Allwedd) November 11th, 1967

The object of this dive was the downstream terminal sump,
situated at the far end of Southern Stream Passage. It has been dived once previously by Steve
Wynn-Roberts and Fred Davies in March 1963 when they reached a distance of 120
when progress was halted by a pot in the floor. (Progress was stopped due to the fact that they were weighted for bottom
walking and could only follow the floor also oxygen equipment was used.) On this dive, however, compressed air
equipment and fins were used, which allowed the diver to keep to the roof and
have a greater speed and mobility. As
there was only one diver, a duplicate set of breathing apparatus was taken into
the cave.

The carry-in (about two miles of hard going) was completed
in four hours and the kit was assembled on the mud bank at the junction of the
S.S.P. and the Main Stream Passage. The
kits were then carried to a gravel bank near the sump. The diver, wearing two complete sets of apparatus
and carrying a line reel, dived into the sump for about twenty feet until a
wall of the sump was reached and followed for 150 near the roof, crossing over
the pot until the sump terminated in a mud bank. The pot was then descended but no continuation
was found and visibility rapidly became nil and an exit was made from the
sump. Despite this disappointment
however, several passages were inspected and 40 of new passage was found in
the roof of the Main Stream Passage 300 upstream of the terminal sump. The whole party returned to S.S.P. and
feasted on hot soup, canned beef, sandwiches and chocolate before leaving the
cave. Times were: – Carry-in, 4 hours. At sump and eating, 2 hours. Carry-out, 5 hours. The diver (P. Kingston) would like to thank
the sherpa party consisting of W. Ball, R. Whitlock, D. Everett and G. Woods
(W.S.G.) J. Corbett (W.C.C.) P. Cousins and P. Cornelius (C.S.S.) R. Bennett,
G. Bull and R. Richards of the B.E.C.

Letter to the Editor

6 Lyveden Road
Blackheath
London S.E.3

Dear Ed.,

A few weeks ago, I had reason to call in the Belfry one
midweek evening but alas! on entering I though I had missed the Hut and gone
right into Walts yard, as the smell was /?%:)@.

Has all the talk about the new Belfry gone to everyones head,
so that they have forgotten all about the present hut? If this is the way that some of our members
are going to behave and carry on when all the work is at last done, I think it
best to forget it and put the clubs money to better use (e.g. the purchase of
AIRWICK).

Now for the complaints. The sink was full of water with a thick layer of grease, and blocked
with tea leaves, peas and the contents of the stew pot. Also in the sink were dirty pots and
crockery. The frying pans had
collections of (I would rather not guess) in them which had gone stale. There was not a single clean cup to be
had. Plates were still on the table,
just as the eaters (what was it? food??) had left them on the Sunday, three
days before.

Food scraps were everywhere. On the table and cooking bench as well as the floor but the most
surprising thing was the way someone had managed to get it into the bowl by the
sink. Tin cans and food packets strewn
all over the place, some smelling very high. The floor had not been swept for some
time and the dog-ends round the stove do not need a mention.

After feeble attempt to clear it up, it became too much for
us. We made a retreat and found
somewhere with a better smell and more pleasant surroundings to spend the
night. Where was the Hut Warden to let
it get in such a state? Or is he also
one of the Dont Cares? Or has he lost
control over the now too often offending members? The outlook does not look good.

Jack
Pearce.