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From the Hon. Secretary.

Dear Member,

I have spoken to several people recently who say that they have not been asked to contribute to the Belfry Building Fund.  There is no time like the present.  Please – if the B.E.C. means anything to you – and you can afford it, will you make a gift of money for the fund?  A number of members have already signed Bankers Orders to give the club – specifically for building a new Belfry - £1 per month for three years.  CAN YOU?  If a total of fifty members did this, we would have little to worry about.  Each of these people would, over three years, give the club £36, but each week they would have only parted with the price of twenty fags OR two pints of beer.  Perhaps you can’t afford to do this.  Well, any other gifts, however large or small, will be gladly received.  Three people so far have offered to lend the club £100.  Are there any other offers?

Will anyone who intends to contribute anything towards the new Belfry please get in touch with Bobby Bagshaw before Christmas so that the committee can take vital decisions at the January meeting.

Yours Sincerely,
            Alan Thomas.

P.S.  It would help the club’s cash position if we reduced the stock of club ties (17/6 each plus postage) and car badges (15/- each plus postage).  Postage is 1/6 in each case.  How about treating yourself to a new tie or badge for Christmas?

Letter to the Editor.

Dear Editor

I have very little experience of cave surveying, but the query in the October B.B. seemed to provide an interesting armchair exercise.

However, after being misled by the diagram and wasting much drinking time, I got back to first principles. If my interpretation of the figure in the B.B. is correct, and we are concerned with one side of a triangle whose other two sides are 7.42’ and 0.75’, then the unknown must be between 6.67’ and 8.17’.  This range is only 1.5’ and I would have thought this smaller than the usual errors to be expected in cave surveying.  If, as appears from the diagram, the unknown is greater than 7.42’ then a figure of 7.795’ could be used as the maximum error is only 4.5”

                        “Non-perfectionist”

Any comments from cave surveyors?  (Ed)

Notice

Would all energetic B.E.C. members who live within the London area, and are willing to partake in the helping of a JUMBLE SALE in aid of B.E.C. funds contact CEDRIC GREEN, 6 SPRING STREET, PADDINGTON, W.2.  TELEPHONE PAD 6941.

Membership List

The annual list of member’s names and addresses follows on the next few pages.  If any member knows of any error in this list, will he please contact PHIL TOWNSEND whose address he will find correctly printed in the lists. Clare Coase’e address is such one wrongly announced.  It should be 5 Mandalay Flats, 10 Elsiemer St., LONG JETTY, N.S.W. 2262, Australia.

K. Abbey

15 Gypsey Patch Lane, Little Stoke, Bristol

P.G.R. Allen

4 St. Lucia Close, Horfield, Bristol 4

T. Andrews

186 Courtlands Avenue, London S.E.12

O.E. Atwell

57 Sandy Leaze, Westbury-n-Trym, Bristol

J. Attwood

64 Main Road, Shortwood, Nr. Mangosfield, Bristol

R.J. Bagshaw

699 Wells Road, Knowle, Bristol 4

M.J. Baker

22 Riverside Garden, Midsomer Norton, Somerset

D Balcombe.

49 Shelford Road, Trumpington, Cambridge

J.C. Ball

4 Church Row, Stratton-on-the-Fosse, Bath, Somerset

R. Bater

20 Woodlands Glade, Swiss Valley, Clevedon, Somerset

K. Barnes.

24 Missile Regt., R.A., Padderborn, BFPO 16

R. Bater

40, Thornleigh Road, Horfield, Bristol 7

Mrs. R. Bater

40, Thornleigh Road, Horfield, Bristol 7

R. Bennett

8 Radnor Road, Westbury-on-Trym, Bristol

J. Bennett

8 Radnor Road, Westbury-on-Trym, Bristol

D. Berry

10 Green Lane, Avonmouth, Bristol

P. Bird

City Museum, Queens Road, Bristol

P. Blogg

Hunters Field, Chaldon Common Road, Chaldon, Surrey

P. Bridges

51 Rockhill, Wellsway, Keynsham, Somerset

B. Britton

108c Cheltenham Road, Bristol 6

A. Bonner

14 Monkseaton Drive, Whiteley Bay, Northumberland

M. Bourne

55 Argyle Road, Fishponds, Bristol

Miss S. Bowden-Lyle

17 Rokeby Avenue, Redland, Bristol 6

R.J. Brook

c/o Cawthorn Institute, P.O. Box 175, Nelson, New Zealand

N. Brooks

9 Martin Grove, Normandale, Lower Hutt, New Zealand

R. Broomhead

The Somme Co., R.M.A. Sandhurst, Camberley, Surrey

G.A. Bull

9 Campden Hill Gardens, London W.8

J.J.. Butler

36 Tothill Street, Minster, Ramsgate, Kent

M. Calvert

Flat 2, Winscombe Court, Winscombe Hill, Winscombe, Somerset

J. Churchward

1 Jamaica Street, Bristol

C. Clark

18 Church Lane, Bedminster, Bristol 3

A. Coase

53 Broughton Road, Croft, Leicestershire

Mrs C. Coase

c/o Lamont, 57 Etna Street, Gosfor, New South Wales, Australia

P.M. Coles

32 Derham Park, Yatton, Bristol

S. Collins

c/o Homeleigh, Bishop Sutton, Bristol

P. Compton

88 Course, Offgicers Mess, RAF Gaydon, Leamington, Warks.

D. Cooke-Yarborough.

Lot 11, McKay Crescent, Orange, New South Wales, Australia

N. Cooper

3 West Terrace, Westbury, Sherborne, Dorset

J. Cornwell

419 Whitehall Road, Street George, Bristol

D. Craig

Flat 4, 78 Milson Road, London W.14

B. Crewe

20 Riveside Gardens, Bath, Somerset.

I.M. Daniels

  3 Oakleigh Ave., Tolworth, Surbiton, Surrey

J. Davey

32 Cheltenham Gardens, Huddersfield Road, Halifax, Yorkshire

F.G. Darbon

43 Arthur Henderson House, Fulham Road, Fulham, London

Mrs A. Davies

Withey Lane, Neighbourne, Oakhill, Bath

Miss P.M. Davies

410 Wells Road, Knowle, Bristol 4

L Dawes

223 Southwark Park Road, Bermondsey, London S.E.10

Mrs L. Dawes

223 Southwark Park Road, Bermondsey, London S.E.10

G. Dell

23128511 L/Cpl. Dell, Printing Press, 30 BN43, BOD, Singapore

P.L. Derrick

49 Mayfield Park South, Fishponds, Bristol

K.C. Dobbs

85 Fox Road, Pinhoe, Exeter, Devon

N. Downes

18 Coombe Street Lane, Yeovil, Somerset

A.J. Dunn

63 Oakdale Road, Downend, Bristol

J.A.Etough

116 Newbridge Road, Brislington, Bristol

B.M. Ellis

‘Knowkauns’, Combwich, Bridgwater, Somerset

C. Falshaw

23 Hallen Grange Crescent, Lodge Moor, Sheffield

P.G. Faulkner

251 Rowah Crescent, Langley, Middleton, Manchester

T. Fletcher

The Old Mill House, Barnack, Nr, Stamford, Lincs.

A. Francis

22 Hervey Road, Wells, Somerset

K. Franklin

52 Rockingham House, Lawrence Weston, Bristol

P. Franklin

52 Rockingham House, Lawrence Weston, Bristol

M. Gaskell

23663966, Pte. Gaskill M, IOVE H Coy., RAOC, BFPO 56, El-Adem, Lybia.

 

 

P.M. Giles

C.P.O.’s Mess, R.N.A.S. Yeovilton, Yeovil, Somerset

K. Gladman

93 Broad Walk, Kidbourne, London, S.E.3

D. Glover

“Leisure”, Green Lane, Pamber Green, Nr. Basingstoke, Hants.

P.R. Godley

10 Hurstwood Avenue, Brentwood, Essex.

C.D. Gooding

43 Monmouth Road, Bishopston, Bristol

D. Greenwood

42 St. david’s Drive, South Anstosn, Sheffield

C. Green

6 Spring Street, Paddington, London W.2

S. Grimes

43 Coates Gardens, Edinburgh 12

D. Gwinnel

Sgts. Mess, 30 Signal Regiment, Blandford, Dorset

C. Hall

375 Fishponds Road, Eastville, Bristol

N. Hallett

21 Southfield Road, Bristol 6

E.J.Handy

2 Coleshill Drive, Hartcliffe, Bristol

M. Hannam

c/o Phoenix Grove, Bristol 6

N. Hart

Barberry House, Kingston, Seymour, Somerset

D. Hassell

 ‘Hill House’, Moorlynch, Bridgwater, Somerset

Hawksford, L/Cpl. A

Depot & TRG Establishment, Deepcut, Camberley, Surrey

J.R. Henderson

8 Oldfields Place, Hotwells, Bristol

Miss A. Henley

23 Maynard Road, Hartcliffe, Bristol

G. Higham

17 Baglyn ave., Kingswood, Bristol

B. Hewitt

21 Clarendon Road, Redland, Bristol 6

J.W. Hill

14C TRhe Orchard, High Street, Lower Cam, Nr Dursley, Glos.

S. Hobbs

Hokerstone Cottage, Townsend, Priddy, Wells, Somerset

T.H. Hogdoon

4 Lansdown Road, Clifton, Bristol 8

Miss D. Holden

Wetherlam, Wooley Green, Bradford-on-Avon, Somerset

G. Honey

 

Mr. Howe

48 Martins Road, Hanham, Bristol

Mrs Howe

48 Martins Road, Hanham, Bristol

P.G. Hudson

25 Derness Road, Bishop Aukland, Co. Durham

J. Ifold

“Leigh House”, Nempnett, Chew Stoke, Somerset.

P. Ifold

“The Cedars”, Blackford, Wedmore, Somerset

D.J. Irwin

9 Campden Hill Gardens, London W.8

Miss P. Irwin

c/o White House, West Ashling, Chichester, Sussex

Jackman, SAC A.

c/o M.C.U., R.A.F. Muharrac (Bahrain) B.F.P.O.63

J.M. James

68 Linden Road, Bristol 6

R. Jarman

“Hillside”, Stockton, Nr. Rugby

M. Jeanmaire

375 Fishponds Road, Eastville, Bristol

R.L. Jenkins

18 Camberley Close, Downend, Bristol

Miss J.M. Jewell

Diamond Cottage, Soke Road, Silchester, Nr. Reading, Berks.

A. Johnson

Warren Cottage, Station Road, Flax Bourton, Somerset

F. Jones

c/o 8 York Gardens, Clifton, Bristol

U. Jones

Marsh Farm, Askem In Furness, Lancs.

R. Keeley

4 The Green, Ham Green, Pill, Bristol

A.J. Kennett

9 Belmont Road, Bristol 6

R.S. King

22 Parkfield Rank, Pucklechurch, Bristol

P.A. Kingston

3 Kingsely Road, Eastville, Bristol 5

R.F. Kitchen

25 Furse Hill Road, Tidworth, Hants.

J. Lamb

‘Broadmeadows’, Padstowe Road, Wadebridge, Cornwall

B.T. Lane

37 Pendennis Park, Brislington, Bristol

T.E. Large

9 Margarets Buildings, Brock Street, Bath, Somerset

Miss A.M. Lester

1 Crowndale Road, Knowle, Bristol

O.C.  Lloyd

Withey House, Withey Close West, Westbury-on-Trym, Bristol

M. Luckwill

8 Greenslade Road, Sedgley Hall Estate, Sedgley, Dudley, Worcs.

J.Laycock

Kimbrose Hotelk, Commercial Road, Gloucester

G.T. Lucy

Pike Croft, Long Lane, Tilehurst, Reading, Berks.

R.A. MacGregor

The Railway Arms, Station Road, Theale, Reading, Berks.

P. Macnab

121 Gilmore Place, Edinburgh 3

McKee

3 Woodside Close, Burton Joyce, Notts

Mrs McKee

3 Woodside Close, Burton Joyce, Notts

J. Major

Saint Cross, Green Down, Litton, Bath, Somerset

Mrs. J. Major

Saint Cross, Green Down, Litton, Bath, Somerset

C. Marriott

Brulbergstrasse 15, Apt. 21, 8400 Winterhur, Switzerland

R. Marshall

23 Highbury Villas, Bristol 2

T. Marston

83 Maple Grove, Plympton, Devon

A. Meaden

The Post Office & Stores, Cross in Hand, Nr. Heathfield, Sussex

T.G. Mossman

33 Whateley’s End Road, Winterbourne, Bristol

N.J. Monk

7 Little Stoke Road, Bristol

K. Murray

17 Harrington Gardens, South Kensington, London, S.W.7

D.W. Musselwhite

143 london Road, Calne, Wilts.

A. Nash

c/o 22 Stuart Lane, Bristol 3

F.L. Newport

43 Swiss Road, Ashton Vale, Bristol 3

H. Oakley

Medical Staff, Frenchay Hospital, Bristol

R. Orr

10 Orchard Gate, Colin Park Road, London N.W.9

D. Palmer

29 John Wesley Road, St. George, Bristol 5

M.A. Palmer

c/o Hooper Avenue, Wells Somerset

Miss J. Parker

68 Delhi Road, Pitsea, Basildon, Essex

Miss S.E. Paul

21 Lovelace Road, Surbiton, Surrey

J.F.W. Pearce

6 Lyveden Road, Blackheath, London S.E.3

R. Pepper

Frenchay Lodge Bungalow, Frenchay, Bristol

L. Peters

21 Melbury Road, Knowle, Bristol 4

N. Petty

12 Bankside Road, Brislington, Bristol

R.A. Philpot

3 Kings Brive, Bishopston, Bristol

G. Platten

‘Rutherfield’, Fernhill Lane, New Milton, Hants.

Miss B. Plummer

2 Hogarth Walk, Lockleaze, Bristol

G. Pointing

10 Green Lane, Avonmouth, Bristol

B. Prewer

East View, West Horrington, Nr. Wells, Somerset

R.J. Price

c/o GPO Kidsgrove, Stoke-on-Trent, Staffs.

C. Priddle

19 Stottbury Road, Horfield, Bristol 7

J. Ransom

9 Archfield Road, Cotham, Bristol

Mrs Ransom

9 Archfield Road, Cotham, Bristol

I. Rees

30 Ramsey Road, Horfield, Bristol 7

C.H.G. Rees

7 Coberley Road, Footshill, Hanham, Bristol

Mrs Rees

7 Coberley Road, Footshill, Hanham, Bristol

D.L. Rebori

11 Kellaway Avenue, Westbury Park, Bristol

A. Rich

c/o Pox 126, Basham, Alberta, Canada

D. Richards

59 Brook Road, Fishponds, Bristol

A.L. Richards

11 Tenison Road, Soth Norwood, Bristol 7

R.J. Roberts

5 Bennett Street, Bath, Somerset

Mr Robinson

49 Elton Road, Bishopston, Bristol 7

Mrs Robinson

49 Elton Road, Bishopston, Bristol 7

Miss J. Rowlands

115 Eden Grove, Horfield, Bristol

A. Rushton

c/o R.A.F. Post Office, Wittering, Stamford, Lincs

A. Sandall

43, Meadway Avenue, Nailsea, Somerset.

Mrs. A. Sandall

43, Meadway Avenue, Nailsea, Somerset

P.M. Scragg

5 Randolph Avenue, Westcliff, Bristol

Miss G. Scaplehorn

Pamela Wills Norse Home, Chew Stoke, Somerset

D. Searle

‘Dolphin Cottage’, Priddy, Nr. Wells, Somerset

Mrs. D. Searle

‘Dolphin Cottage’, Priddy, Nr. Wells, Somerset

G. Selby

c/o Prewer, East View, West Horrington, Wells, Somerset

R.J. Sell

51 Swiss Road, Ashton Vale, Bristol 3

A. Selway

15 Street Martin’s Road, Knowle, Bristol 4

R. Setterington.

4 Cavendish House, Cavendish Road, Chiswick, London, W 4

R. Setterington

4 Galmington Lane, Taunton, Somerset

Mrs R. Setterington

4 Galmington Lane, Taunton, Somerset

C.J. Slavin

340 Speedwell Road, St. George, Bristol

W.J. Smart

c/o Richard Costain Ltd., Aberthaw (B) Power Station, Aberthaw, Barry, Glam

D. Smith

Flat 15, 193 Welesley Road, Coley Park, Reading, Berks.

J. Stafford

‘Bryher’, Badgworth, Nr. Axbridge, Somerset

Mrs. I. Stanbury

74, Redcatch Road, Knowle, Bristol. 4.

T.H. Stanbury

31, Belvoir Road, Street Andrews, Bristol

J.D. Statham

43 Coates Gardens, Edinburgh 12

R. Stenner

38 Paultow Road, Victoria Park, Bristol 3

Mrs. Stenner

38 Paultow Road, Victoria Park, Bristol 3

P. Sutton

56 Arley Hill, Redland, Bristol 6

B.M. Scott

Crew Reporting Office, BOAC, London Airport, Hounslow, Middlesex

D. Targett

16 Phillis Hill, Midsomer Norton, Bath, Somerset

A. Thomas

Westhaven School, Uphill, Weston s Mare, Somerset

D.M. Thomas

Mantoins, 2 St. Paul Road, Tupsley, Hereford

N.L. Thomas

Holly lofge, Norwich Road, Salhouse, Norwich, Norfolk

S. Thompson

51 Hayward Road, Redfield, Bristol 5

G. Tilly

 ‘Jable’, Digby Road, Sherborne, Dorset

J. Tompsett

11 Lodge Avenue, Great Baddow, Chelmsford, Essex

Mrs. D. Tompsett

11 Lodge Avenue, Great Baddow, Chelmsford, Essex

E. Towler

5 Boxgrove Gardens, Aldwick, Bognor Regis, Sussex

P. Townsend

154 Sylvia Avenue, Lower Knowle, Bristol 3

Mrs. J. Tuck

48 Wiston Path, Fairwater, Cwmbran, Monmouthshire

S. Tuck

27 Woodbury Avenue, Wells Somerset

P.J. Turner

21 Northfield, Stanshawes Estate, Yate

S.A. Tuttlebury

Flat 1, santakand, Prior Road, Camberley, Surrey

R.J. Voke

8 Pavey Road, Hartcliffe, Bristol 3

Mrs. D. Waddon

32 Laxton Close, Taunton, Somerset

R. Wallis

174 Bryants Hill, Bristol 5

D. Warburton

20 Beverley Court Road, Quinton, Birmingham 32

M.R. Webster

43 Shroud road, Patchway, Bristol

D. Weston

“Maryvale”, 2 Folloton, Totnes, Devon

R. White

The Moorings, Porton Road, Churhdown, Gloucester

M. Wheadon

“Sharlyn, Chilcompton Road, Misomer Norton, Nr. Bath, Somerset

A.J. Whiteman

1 Golden Road, Clifton, Bristol 8

R. Wickens

2 Cherry Garden Road, Canterbury, Kent

P.A. Wilkins

51 Constable Road, Lockleaze, Bristol

A.J. Williams

54 Crossways, Roggiett, Newport, Monmouthshire

B. Wilton

22 Wedmore Vale, Knowle, Bristol 4

E.G. Welch

Frenchay Lodge Bungalow, Frenchay, Bristol

G.S. Watts

59 Southbrow House, Duckmoor Road, Ashton, Bristol 3

THE AGGY DIVE

(Ogof Agen Allwedd) November 11th, 1967

The object of this dive was the downstream terminal sump, situated at the far end of Southern Stream Passage.  It has been dived once previously by Steve Wynn-Roberts and Fred Davies in March 1963 when they reached a distance of 120’ when progress was halted by a pot in the floor. (Progress was stopped due to the fact that they were weighted for bottom walking and could only follow the floor – also oxygen equipment was used.)  On this dive, however, compressed air equipment and fins were used, which allowed the diver to keep to the roof and have a greater speed and mobility.  As there was only one diver, a duplicate set of breathing apparatus was taken into the cave.

 

The carry-in (about two miles of hard going) was completed in four hours and the kit was assembled on the mud bank at the junction of the S.S.P. and the Main Stream Passage.  The kits were then carried to a gravel bank near the sump.  The diver, wearing two complete sets of apparatus and carrying a line reel, dived into the sump for about twenty feet until a wall of the sump was reached and followed for 150’ near the roof, crossing over the pot until the sump terminated in a mud bank.  The pot was then descended but no continuation was found and visibility rapidly became nil and an exit was made from the sump.  Despite this disappointment however, several passages were inspected and 40’ of new passage was found in the roof of the Main Stream Passage 300’ upstream of the terminal sump.  The whole party returned to S.S.P. and feasted on hot soup, canned beef, sandwiches and chocolate before leaving the cave.  Times were: - Carry-in, 4 hours.  At sump and eating, 2 hours.  Carry-out, 5 hours.  The diver (P. Kingston) would like to thank the sherpa party consisting of W. Ball, R. Whitlock, D. Everett and G. Woods (W.S.G.) J. Corbett (W.C.C.) P. Cousins and P. Cornelius (C.S.S.) R. Bennett, G. Bull and R. Richards of the B.E.C.

Letter to the Editor

6 Lyveden Road
Blackheath
London S.E.3

Dear Ed.,

A few weeks ago, I had reason to call in the Belfry one midweek evening but alas! on entering I though I had missed the Hut and gone right into Walt’s yard, as the smell was /?%:)’@.

Has all the talk about the new Belfry gone to everyone’s head, so that they have forgotten all about the present hut?  If this is the way that some of our members are going to behave and carry on when all the work is at last done, I think it best to forget it and put the club’s money to better use (e.g. the purchase of AIRWICK).

Now for the complaints. The sink was full of water with a thick layer of grease, and blocked with tea leaves, peas and the contents of the stew pot.  Also in the sink were dirty pots and crockery.  The frying pans had collections of (I would rather not guess) in them which had gone stale.  There was not a single clean cup to be had.  Plates were still on the table, just as the eaters (what was it? food??) had left them on the Sunday, three days before.

Food scraps were everywhere. On the table and cooking bench as well as the floor but the most surprising thing was the way someone had managed to get it into the bowl by the sink.  Tin cans and food packets strewn all over the place, some smelling very high. The floor had not been swept for some time and the dog-ends round the stove do not need a mention.

After feeble attempt to clear it up, it became too much for us.  We made a retreat and found somewhere with a better smell and more pleasant surroundings to spend the night.  Where was the Hut Warden to let it get in such a state?  Or is he also one of the “Don’t Cares?  Or has he lost control over the now too often offending members?  The outlook does not look good.

                        Jack Pearce.