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Deepest Hole - follow up

In the last B.B., No.446, there was a newspaper cutting sent in by Matt Tuck from India concerning the discovery of 'The Deepest Hole on Earth'.  J'rat wrote to the International Union of Speleology Commission of Large Caves and in reply received the two letters reproduced below.  We thought the BEC membership would be interested. I didn't even know that such an organisation existed!  Before you start criticising Daniel's grammer/spelling, I wonder how many members of the BEC could do as well in German!

Correspondent for India & Nepal
H.Daniel Gebauer / Marktplatz 32 / III
D-7070 S.Gmund / F.R.Germany

Tony Jarrraatt

Schwabisch Gmund, den  9.9.1988

Dear Tony,

Thank you very much for Matt Tuck's newspaper cutting concerning the “deepest hole on earth found in MP”.  If I do not err, which is likely to be (for there is too much mystics about India that anybody could be sure on anything - except he is a straightforward fool) well, I think I would identify that hole with the Kotomsar-, Kutumsar­or Kotamsar-Cave (18°52' 10”N/810 56’ O4”E) which was not discovered by Prof. V.S. Vakankar, of course not, he was a Professor and A Hindoo, and neither of those kinds would degrade himself by any actual work - but he was told of a not too small cave by Dr. Andrej Kozik, member of Kanger  ‘87', a Polish expedition organized by the Polish Society of Friends of Earth, with no report published so far.  Unfortunately!

The newspaper says the tunnel is about 100ft wide and it is actually almost 30m broad at it's broadest intersection - not too bad for a newspaper report.  And it says its more than 1000ft deep and it actually is 42m deep; you only have to add a single zero, which should be no problem for a serious journalist.

At least he is absolutely correct in revealing that this hole, like all karst phenomena, are miracles coming from the outer space, a fact most cavers tend to neglect: its gravity, a cosmic force, that uplifts submarine limestone deposits and induces the weathering! 

We only have to think around sharp bends to make things straight!

Thanks, Tony, for this wonderful peace of popular science!  Sometimes it's boring, but most often it is funny to follow the maladaptations between different worlds of thought.  Even in the European languages the layman tends to say a cave is “deep”, when a caver says it is long.

It would be great if you could trace the original newspaper reference – for the Hindustan Times is only quoted, and filing through past newspaper editions is such a tedious task. I just mean: ask Matt if he remembers where he found it –

Good caving


c/o H.D. Gebauer, Markplatz 32, 7070, S. Gmilnd

Tony Jarratt

Schriftleitung:    H.Oaniel Gebauer
                        Marktplatz 32
                        0-7070 Schw. Gmiind
Bezug:              Rainer Hoss
                        Esslingerstrasse 26
                        D-7310 Plochingen

Dear Tony,

About a month ago you have sent me a newspaper-cutting referring to a "Deepest hole found on earth in MP", and I offered the suggestion that the cave mentioned there could be identical with 'Kotomsar cave'.

Well Kotomsar cave (81o56' 04"E/18o52'10"N) lies in Bastar district of Madhya Pradesh which is supposed to be in Dewas district, which is actually 600km away, like the crow flies.

And the Dewas District is close to Bhopal, where the mentioned Dr. Vakankar lectured at the Ujjain University.

It might be two different caves!

Is you famous roving reporter Matt Tuck still somewhere there?  Would he perhaps like to gain some insights in Indian academic society while checking at the Ujjain University ( Archaeological Survey 7) if somebody else is aware of Dr. Vakankars speleological efforts?