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Editor: D.P.Turner
“Driver of the Year” award looks like going to old member
GRAHAM PHIPPEN – captain of the Antarctic Expedition “Southern Quest,” now
residing at the bottom of the
Tony Jarratt says that we have negotiated memberÂ’s rates at the following club huts:-
Chelsea, Bradford, TSG, Pegasus, and NCC
The arrangements are unofficial at the moment so it may depend on their Hut Wardens.
1071 Clive Lovell, Keynsham,
1072 Tracey Newstead,
1053 Steve Milner
1055 Oliver Wells
1057 Mark Lumley
1059 Alison Ainsley
1061 Kerry Wiggins
1054 Tim Gould
1056 Chris Larkin
1058 Ron Wyncoll
1060 Peter Crawley
1062
I must thank Alfie for checking the membership list printed in the October 85 BB and noting the following membership number errors
364L Peter Blogg shown
as 348L who is R.G. Brown
405L Frank Darbon shown
as 454L who is George Blackhorn
1038 Alan Downton shown
as 1039 who is Lisa Taylor
947 Phil Ford shown as
949 who is John C. Watson
647 Davce Glover shown
as 648 who is Jane Glover
668 Mike Jeanmaire
shown as 669 who is Rees
575L Dermot Statham
shown as 547L who is Willie Stanton
Alfie has also sent an interesting graph showing that the BEC is on the way up (see page 21)
1. Re-fix padlock bar to roof access
2. Repair damaged ceiling and
re-plaster
3. Repair leak in roof
4. Fix wall units to wall
5. Put up signboards
6. All doors to be cleaned down and re-stained
7. Fix lock to entrance door (same
key as main door)
8. Put up hat and coat hooks
9. Make up and fix new benches
10. Shower curtain to third shower
11. Finish off painting
12. Re-fix toilet to floor
13. Rod drain pipe
14. Clean out gully
15. Lag pipes
16. Fix toilet roll holder to wall
17. Clean out drying room
18. Install extractor tan and
ducting
19. Patch up render by meters
20. Finish oft painting
21. Patch up holes in ceiling and
walls
22. Fix bunks to wall
23. Tile floor
24. Finish off painting
25. Hat and coat hooks on toilet
door
26. Lag pipes
27. Lag pipes
28. Put up new shelving
29. Build external gas bottle store
30. Clear away rubbish
31. Re-build manhole to soak-away
32. Stain front door
33. Remove facia and replace with
U.P.V.C.
34. Repair rainwater guttering
35. Fix frame and hang door to shed
36. Take down timber shed and
remove from site
37. Cut grass in the spring
38. Fix sand buckets to wall
39. Build small roof over sand
buckets
40. Fix new sign on Carbide store
Dany Bradshaw
Mary Ham (from Peter and Mary Ham and family) an ex member
of about 11 years ago now living in
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Subs are. now well overdue - if you still havenÂ’t paid then you had better send your money now to Brian Workman or you are unlikely to get another BB
I've put together a more up to date meets list. Some of the dates have changed because the caves were already booked. Others are still waiting for replies and permits from the various governing clubs. Accommodation will be entirely up to those people going on the trip.
DATE
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REGION
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CAVE
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Mar-01
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Black Shiver
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Mar-02
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Lancaster/County Pot
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Mar-09
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Easter W/E
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Craig-an-Fynnon (unconfirmed). Daren Cilau
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Apr 19/20
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Mendip
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BEC members weekend and barrel at the Belfry
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Apr-26
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Otter Hole
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May-03
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Pasture Gill (unconfirmed)
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Whitsun
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Gaping Gill (unconfirmed)
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Jun-19
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Derbyshire
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Nettle Pot
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Jun-20
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Derbyshire
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Giants (Unconfirmed)
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Aug 1-17
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Aug-30
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Aug-31
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Birks Fell
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Sep-27
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Penyghent Pot
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Sep-28
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Marble Steps (Unconfirmed)
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Oct-11
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O.F.D.
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Oct-12
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Dan'-Yr-Ogof
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A combined BEC and NCC trip to the Dachstein Massif has been arranged for August 1st-17th.
With the Barengassewindschacht finally pushed to conclusion by the NCC last summer, the expedition will turn its attention to some of the leads left unfinished on previous trip,s as well as looking for more entrances in the same area. Hopefully we may also have a chance to look at the extensions in the Hirlatzhohle at the bottom of the mountain.
At the moment there are about 15 NCC members going and from our end we have just 4 who are definitely on for the trip, with another 4-5 who hope to be going, finances permitting. If you would like to be on the trip then get in touch soon because the NCC need numbers to sort out a Sport's Council grant. We are particularly looking for people proficient in SRT and someone with a knowledge of the area from one of the previous expeditions would be most welcome.
Accommodation is being organised at the moment and we should be staying in the Glocken Hut, next to the Wiesberghaus as before.
Nothing has been finalised with the NCC about equipment for the expedition, but we hope to be able to beg, steal or borrow as much as possible to keep costs to a minimum.
References to the previous expeditions can be found in the following copies of the B.B .
BB 214 - Dec 65
BB 366 - Oct 78
BB 370
BB 379 – Nov 79
BB 388/9
BB 412/5 - Nov 82
BB 417 - J an 83
The "Jolly Roger" flew defiantly above the snow covered slopes of Leck Fell on a crisp Saturday morning, denoting the presence of the BEC Cave Pirates in Notts Pot.
The pothole was found to be rigged for a major push beyond the "terminal" Sump, so the four stalwart (cave dogs found themselves at the bottom in no time at all, whereupon they met up with John Cordingley and A.N. Other kitting up for the 700ft dive to the new extension. Rations be scarce in that there cave so the team tapped the weevils out of a ship's biscuit and drank each others urine before setting back for the surface.
Once out, First Mate Trebor (Avast Behind) McDonald set sail for the N.P.C. Dinner via the Marton Arms and New Inn where lashings of Grog were quaffed and bawdy Shanties sung 'Ad Infinitum' !
The next day was a belter with the brilliant sun shining over us as we tacked up the side of Ingleborough towards Nick Pot, whereupon we descended through the 80ft Thornber's Entrance, leastways, Capn. Gonzo - he descended, Trebor - he descended, Long John Wobbley - he descended too, but the Boatswain (Aah - Clever Fucker he were!) he turned a pear shaped Krab into a useless L-shaped piece of scrap, shat himself and set sail for warmer climes! The rest of the crew crossed the Traverse in the Gods, descended a magnificent 280ft shaft to the bottom before a-hoisting the mizzen and heading for home.
In the wake of Cave Conservation Year the committee have decided that the club should adopt Eastwater Cavern. There are numerous BEC members active within the cave every week so it wouldn't take much effort for people to pick up bits of rubbish in passing and bring them out.
The dig at the end of the first Rift Chamber eventually broke through into a further 30ft of high rift passage closing down to a tight flooded bedding plane. A way on looks doubtful.
J. Rat and Tim Large have an interesting project going in the Boulder Chamber. Tony pushed a route through loose boulders for about 30Â’ to a point where a way on could be seen but was too unstable. A smoke test was tried from the aven in Ifold Series and this came through very strongly in a boulder choked rift directly below the Wind Tunnel. A connection here would make the West End Series far more accessible for pushing trips (and rescues! - see Tony's article)
Tony also tried to divert the water at the entrance to make it go down through the Boulder Chamber as it did when the cave was first opened. So far this has only been partially successful but it enables a dry exit to be made from the cave even in wet weather.
NOTE
Mrs Gibbons requests that all cavers visit the farm BEFORE going down the cave so that she knows who is down there. Don't forget your 10p goodwill fee.
Below is a list of Club Leaders for various caves throughout the country. I am aware that it is very incomplete but itÂ’s a start. If you know of any other access arrangements please let me know.
MENDIP
Charterhouse Alan Downton
Reservoir Hole Martin Grass, Dave Irwin,
St.
O.F.D. Martin Grass, Dave Irwin, Mike Palmer, Graham Wilton-Jones
Dan-yr-Ogof Martin Grass, Tim Large, Graham Wilton-Jones
Craig-an-Fynnon Martin Grass
NORTH
Peak Cavern Martin Grass
White Scar Martin Grass
Mark Lumley
The following is a list of the club tackle currently accounted for and available for use:-
9 Wire tethers (11, 2 and 15ft)
3 spreaders (1 and 2ft)
17 standard ladders (L9, LI0, 21, One in oil, No ID, L5, L17, 20, No ID, 30, L44, 29, No ID, 23, L5, CuthbertÂ’s, No ID) (2 withdrawn L7 and No ID)
5 expedition ladders (L42, L24, L35, L26, L41)
Ropes: 1 x 150', 1 x: 200' (new) 2 x 120Â’ (new)various digging ropes
2 tackle bags
Suunto compass and clino
6 ice axes
2 pairs snowshoes
If anyone knows of, or has any other club tackle please let me know as we are attempting to compile a complete inventory of all club property.
Steve Milner
7/2/86
On Saturday, 11th January 1986, about midday, a party of
five cavers from South East London descended Longwood Swallet. The water level was quite high and it is
likely that they decided to explore Longwood Series rather than August Hole
where the chimney and drainpipe would probably be impassable. They had explored the Wet Series Passage
below the Main Chamber when, on the return, four of the group successfully
negotiated the stream passage beneath the chamber. Atilla Kurucz was the last of the group and
on pulling himself up into the chamber, a large slab of rock, weighing about
half a ton detached itself, pinning Atilla beneath. His friends quickly realising the seriousness
of the situation were eventually able to wedge the rock up and get him out from
underneath it. He was given mouth to
mouth resuscitation and cardiac massage. Within a few minutes another group of cavers from
It took another six hours to get him out of the cave, with four teams of cavers being used for hauling. Over two hours were spent in getting him through the bedding plane squeeze near the entrance. This manoeuvre was only successful when the bag, in which he had been placed, was removed thus allowing his arms to be placed over his head. Finally a rope puller was used to lift him up the constricted entrance shaft. The whole operation was over by 10.00pm.
P.S. Although on this particular occasion a delayed call-out of the M.R.O. would not have made the slightest difference to the outcome of this tragic incident, as Atilla probably died within five minutes of the rock landing on his chest, it should be pointed out that a delay did occur because the cavers sent to raise the alarm did not know where Lower Farm (now known as Longwood Grange Farm) was located. They, in fact, drove their car to one of the houses near to Manor Farm and received quite a cool reception from the occupant when they asked to use the telephone. The call out saga didnÂ’t end there, the outcome being that the M.R.O. were not given the full details of the accident.
Longwood Grange Farm can be reached by walking up the valley, following the stream and not crossing the little wooden bridge. After a few hundred metres (yards for the non-metricated) Mr. TrimÂ’s lawns and farmhouse will be found. Mr. Trim is a very pleasant gentleman and is quite prepared to help out in any emergency situation. It must be stated however, that under normal circumstances he does not want his privacy invaded or his lawns damaged by cavers.
An additional instruction to the M.R.O. notice in Longwood blockhouse will be put up as soon as possible giving details of the location of the farm.
Brian Prewer.
With the lower parts of West End Series being almost permanently sumped off at present other projects in the cave have been initiated with intentions of providing a new route from the entrance area directly into the Ifold's Series. Apart from bypassing much awkward passage this route would allow a change of scenery to those who have used the standard trade routes continuously for the past three years.
Work started on the 7th September when, with the assistance of Dave Nicholls and Mark Lovell, Tony Jarratt climbed the 55' Aven at the head of Harris's Passage in Ifold's Series. A fairly easy but damp and exposed climb led to the top of the aven via three roomy ledges. Two ways on at the top were both impassable without bang but draughted strongly inwards.
A return was made on 3rd January with Phil Romford and the aven was re-climbed and rigged with 60Â’ ladder. (The more exposed, stal covered part of the aven was also climbed and found to close down at 35'. Initials on the wall showed this to have been looked at twenty years earlier).
The following day AJ and .John Dukes returned with hammer and chisels and spent some time removing rock from the larger of the two ways on in preparation for banging. John continued hammering while AJ went to the Wind Tunnel at the top of the Canyon where the hammer blows could be distinctly heard emanating from the rock. In the Boulder Chamber - a black hole was noticed below the boulder floor and this was investigated on the 10th January, when with the aid of a sledge hammer and rope winch a 12' deep hole was engineered leading to a loose, strongly draughting choke in a rift.
Next day, Jim Smart, Harold Price and John Chew lit a smoke bomb in the 55" Aven while AJ and Tim Large opened up the draughting choke in Boulder Chamber, getting through into some 30' of horribly loose descending passage with only one solid wall (and that’s dubious!). This dropped down a wide rift which was not entered due to the frightening mass of boulders above it This passage has since been renamed “Death Row”.
No smoke was evident here but as TL emerged back into Boulder Chamber he noticed it seeping out of another hole directly below Wind Tunnel. This small vertical hole lies at the start of Keith Gladman and Andy Lolley's old dig which oxbows back into the Canyon.
The hole was attacked with hammers and chisels and good progress made, continued on the following Wednesday by TL, Tim Gould, Mark Lumley and JS. More work was done on a solo trip by AJ on 23rd January and Death Row revisited. After a lot of deliberation the loose boulders at the head of the rift were passed and the rift followed down for some 15' to where a low arch led into larger passage. Unfortunately the arch was composed of loose boulders and as it was being gently prodded the earth moved. So did AJ who shot out of the passage with large and small boulders literally brushing his legs as they parted company with roof or walls. Not a nice place!
Back at the 55" Aven two days later, TL banged the larger way on with an appreciative audience of JD, AJ and Andy Sparrow. Not so appreciative was the unknown poor bugger who was at that time sitting alone at the top of the Canyon and probably only about 20' above the bang! The results were checked the following day by AJ, Trevor Hughes and Snablet and the now open rift found to close down after about 6'.
Work is continuing when lethargy permits - assistance welcomed.
Tony Jarratt.
Further investigations have also been made in the area off TermInal Rift below the 13 Pots. Jim Smart first looked at this old digging site where the stream sinks. To the right is a tight rift which further closes down after about 10' but could be chemically enlarged. Also Sand Chamber was inspected. Considerable amounts of spoil have been deposited in the chamber from previous digging activities - maybe they are obscuring a possible digging site. At the eastern side of the chamber is an ascending rift which appeared possible providing some form of stemple could be inserted at intervals to assist progress. Jim and Mark investigated this, managing to pass the constriction to passage beyond which appeared not to have been entered before. Unfortunately it soon closed down.
Another interesting area is the small rift in the eastern wall at the base of the 55' aven previously mentioned. This leads into another small rift at right angles to it. This area takes on a more phreatic appearance. At the lower end the rift drops into a small chamber with a boulder floor - several interconnecting avens appear in the roof. In the northern corner is a squeeze into an ascending phreatic rift. This area is leading into the unknown, outside the boundaries of existing cave.
The current survey of Ifold Series is very sketchy and appears inaccurate. Perhaps it could do with a re-survey from Dolphin Pitch onwards.
Tim Large.
(The story so far)
As you have probably read in the last BB, members from the
BEC had joined forces with a group from
The dig was making steady progress in a phreatic passage filled with sand and clay on top. The sandy spoil was used to fill in a steeply sloping floor in the existing passage to make a large level and fairly comfortable campsite, it was enough room for the 13 people who had been down there. We were well prepared for a breakthrough into “caverns measureless to man” with tape to mark off any formations we found, SRT kit and rope for pitches and climbing gear for any avens and surveying and camera equipment etc.
Jim Smart and Nigel Scallon arrived after their photographic trip with a large supply of Ovaltine, which was followed by shouts from in the dig that they could see a passage or chamber a few feet ahead. Mark then went into one of his digging frenzies, while the rest started to brew up some Ovaltine. Just as the water was coming to the boil Mark broke through into a passage 5 foot high and 10 foot wide at 9.20pm. Everyone dropped everything and rushed into the new passage, a decision was made to explore the passage all together since we had all dug at some stage. Photos were taken of the virgin passage with its mud formations and occasional crystals on the walls and ceiling. The passage continued around a couple of bends, then ended in a squeeze. A passage could be seen continuing on the other side. The squeeze was enlarged and I was pushed through to dig from the other side. The team, some wearing woolly hats and carrying carbides by hand (leaving their proper lights and helmets behind in the rush) and armed with digging tools and cameras, were
trying to think of names for the passage. After names had been flying around the passage from all directions, someone suggested the "Ovaltiney”, and it stuck because of the almost made ovaltine back at the base camp.
Once through the squeeze the passage continued for a short distance a similar size to the passage before and ending in another larger squeeze with passage on the other side. A message was passed back that it looked fairly big, but by the time it had reached the last man the message had changed from fairly big to massive. The passage beyond was similar but slightly smaller also ending in a squeeze with an awkward twist in it. The passage on the other side was slightly larger than before with a cold draught coming along it. The passage went around a couple of bends, and then ended in a large pile of sand forming a choke. There was a small air space with a howling gale going through. Further investigation revealed blackness beyond (it must be a chamber or mere passage). The next push should hopefully uncover caverns measureless to man, and another, nay, either Agen Allwedd or Llangattock Swallet.
The extension is a high level passage like Trident in Aggy
and about 200 foot long, heading in a
To be continued in the next BB when we will probably have found more.
Snablet.
PS. Wormhole, you're going to have to buy some new kit now!
The following is a brief account of the 30 strong
After a two hour coach trip to Heathrow, a 16 hour flight via Amsterdam and Houston to Mexico City, a night in a hotel and a further day by bus Dany and myself along with other members of the expedition arrived in the large town of Ciudad de Valles, situated 220 miles north of Mexico City.
Sunday morning we went in search of the café "Don
Juan" to rendezvous with members of our advance party, who over the past 5
weeks had driven our 3 expedition vehicles down from the States, cleared the
expedition gear through customs (this took 21 days) set up base camp, and
started the serious business of prospecting and caving. The cafe was easily located, parked outside
was a 4x4 Chevrolet truck bearing the insignia "MEXICO 85 British Caving
Expedition, sponsored by Johnnie Walker Scotch Whiskey", everything to
plan, amazing! We entered. "Where the bloody hell have you
been", we were greeted by the soft and gentle voice of Alan Thomas who had
cunningly followed us from Priddy, "The rest of your lot are asleep out
the back", he went on. "I have had lots of adventures getting here, I
must tell you". Some time later,
after a meal and Alan's story, the Chevrolet was put through the pain barrier
along the
Tuesday morning, we drove to Tampajal, from there 3 hours
walk into the mountains gained us the
We spent the next day doing some bread and butter work,
following a young local lad through very wet and soggy jungle at high speed,
descending each shaft as he magiced them out of the undergrowth, most of the
shafts proving to be choked with rotting vegetation. All would probably go with digging but we had
not come this far to do that. We returned
to our cave home to find that a shaft shown to the others had gone to a 100m
pitch, two of them had walked back to Tlamaya for more rope and would return
later that night. It was decided that
one team would push on down the pitch the following day, while we investigated
a second draughting shaft situated nearby. This we did, and after the passing of a squeeze at the bottom of the
entrance climb by John Palmer and Debbie, both anorexic whippets! A further hour was spent enlarging it to Bob
and Dany size, this gained us a large, steeply descending fluted passage
carrying a small stream. In an alcove on
the right hand wall two brawn calcite formations closely resembling hedgehogs
gave the cave its name, Queva de la Erizo (
The others had also done well and their cave was still going at -300m. We returned to base the next day and another team took over at Las Horneos, we had had atrocious weather but a good four days caving.
Christmas was fast looming on the horizon, Alan Thomas had searched high and low in Xlitla for a cafe that would serve roast turkey and Christmas Pud on Christmas Day. He had even applied his shouting in a silly accent technique, but not even this, combined with his school teacher stern look, brought any joy. We finally had to settle for spicey chicken, assorted vegetable and sala served on Christmas Eve. Some compensation was gained in the fact that the red wine we had ordered arrived in the form of Bacardi and Coke, oh the joys of the language barrier! Dany and myself returned to the local bar at Tlamaya to carry on the Christmas Eve festivities. Christmas passed in a haze.
On the 27th December, Dany and I plus three others set off
to an area to the northeast of Xlitla, near the large town of
The following day we carried our tackle up into the surrounding hills aiming to descend the reported shafts above. We systematically worked our way through a number of these, all with the same result, all were very dry and dusty, adorned with bat shit and choked around the 50m mark. Our resident geologist, Alf Latham, weighed up the situation and declared in best scientific terms, “this is a real bum area”, we all agreed and returned to our truck. Our next port of call was Puerto de Animas on the main road north of Jalpan, here locals had told us that there were large caves where a river disappeared and then re-emerged on the far side of the hill. They were right, the problem was that they had been previously explored by the Americans, all the same, they were well worth the visit.
We spent the following day in the sink end, this proved to be about 1km of mega passage, well decorated, brought to a sudden end in a very stagnant sump. Before returning to base on the morrow, we visited the resurgence cave, this was a very picturesque railway tunnel carrying the main stream, opening out into a large decorated chamber. The streamway terminated 1/2km further on in a good size clear inviting sump pool. A dry flood overflow passage, explored on the way out, gave another 1 1/2km of big mud floored passage ending in a muddy chamber. This must be close to the upstream sump but no connection could be found.
We returned to base for the New Year, a group of us decided to celebrate by going to a dance advertised in Xlitla, this proved to be in a building site (the Spanish influence, I suppose!). Everybody stroved towards their desired state of drunkenness and the locals looked on in amazement at our rendering of "Auld Lang Syne" as the magic hour passed, six hours after the real English one. All was well until the return journey in the early hours, the vehicle in front of me sprung a puncture, I swerved around it and drove off the edge of the track. I sat there in amazement as the thing rocked on the edge of a rather steep drop above the valley floor many feet below. "Oh dear", said everybody and deserted the vehicles to walk back to base. The next few days were spent persuading a rogue from a Tamzunchale rescue truck company, firstly to lift our truck out of its predicament, and secondly to let us have it back. During this time our third truck had broken down leaving the expedition rather immobile although teams still managed to get out by using local buses.
With the New YearÂ’s problems behind us, and two vehicles back on the road, a team of 10 were off again, this time to visit Ixtacapa, an area not far from Xlitla. There were two caves still going here, left by a team on a day trip to this area. On arrival we asked permission to use a half built hut as a shelter, this was granted. Before we had finished erecting our poly sheet, a woman appeared from the mass of spectators that had gathered and told us that she had a house we could use. As I have said before, the friendliness of Mexicans is amazing. The house was a large wooden one, just right for our needs, we accepted it gratefully. At a team discussion that evening Dany and I volunteered to go with a local guide the following day to explore the caving possibilities of the Tancuilin river gorge. This proved a major undertaking, it took us about an hour to reach the top of the gorge, we then descended 300m plus down the steep, heavily vegetated sides, at the bottom it was apparent that finding entrances would be impossible in the short time available as the gorge was so immense and dry water courses emerged from the jungle in all directions. After a quick dip in the river we lugged ourselves and our un-needed caving gear back up the gorge, arriving some hours later back at the house, hot and sweaty.
Our remaining two days here were spent shaft bashing, photographing and surveying the two going caves which were now finished, and also exploring some short, but well decorated, caves that we had found.
After our couple of days back in base we set off on what would be our last trip out into the hills. As you have probably realised, the system is to spend 4 days out and then return to base. This gives everybody the chance of going to different areas and doing a wider spectrum of the expedition work, i.e. photographing, surveying, pushing etc. The time at base camp allows for getting cleaned up, shopping, drawing of surveys, and generally relaxing between caving bouts.
Since we had last been to Los Horneos, the caves there had
been pushed to their conclusions and attention had been moved lower down the
hill to a village called
We spent our usual day shaft bashing, this paid off towards
the end of the day with the discovery of a large draughting shaft,
It was now Saturday, the 18th January, we had to have all
our kit in
While this was going on we managed to fit in a trip down
Hitchuhuatla cave, an American find near to our base camp. A 130m entrance shaft is followed by a 50m
second pitch, at the bottom of which 3km of magnificent stream passage can be
followed to a terminal muddy sump - a fine trip by any standards. Also during this period Golondrinas was
visited and descended by a few of the brave. There are problems here with locals demanding money and a guard on the
rope is well advised, I quickly volunteered for this job. The depth of the shaft does not become
totally apparent until a boulder is observed disappearing downwards for 12-14
seconds. I abseiled over the edge on a
30m rope to get some shots of the heroes on the main ropes. The walls bell out after the first 4m and are
30-35m away 25m down. I sat on the end
of the short rope and did a very careful changeover, emptied my trousers and
tried to hold myself still enough to take some snaps. A few minutes later we were treated to the
very impressive sight of thousands of swiftlets returning to their nests, they
circle in the sky above the shaft and dive bomb at high speed into the hole,
this causes a loud roaring noise which resonates around the walls. The marathon task of hauling up the special
400m ropes followed, some
A large truck and driver had been hired to transport our
gear back to
There were now about twelve of us left in Tlamaya, five of
us to catch the night bus from Xlitla to
The night ride to
The following day we left for
The final score was 20km of new passage explored and surveyed, over 100 entrances noted, the deepest cave was over 600m and most importantly a good time was had by all with no deaths, injuries or diseases.
Bob Cork
S.R.T. Tackle
Whilst welcoming Tim LargeÂ’s comment about the proposed S.R.T. equipment in the last BB., I would like to put forward the other side of the debate. I should first take issue with some of the points he has raised.
1. No record of a discussion about S.R.T. at an AGM has been found so, presumably there is no set club policy about the equipment
2. The suggested tackle would not be for general club use.
3. a. The tackle would be stored off Mendip and
would only be used on organised club meets in
b. The Tackle Master would administer it and keep a log of usage. He would also check for damage and say when a rope is unsafe.
c. There is a demand for group
S.R.T. equipment amongst the younger, less wealthy members of the club. In real terms we do not have the facility to
teach the up and coming keener members the basics of modern vertical caving
techniques, let alone bottom any respectable
d. A basic stock of maillons, hangers etc should be kept a a foundation to be supplemented by the individuals on the trip.
4. On the Berger trip, worries were expressed for two reasons, the main one being misuse of equipment due to the inexperience of various members of the team. I would have thought that their experience should have been gained closer to home in order that they may not jeopardise an expensive and well organised trip abroad. The Berger S.R.T. training meets showed up a lack of basic knowledge in several members of the party.
5. If the tackle were kept in the Tackle Shed for general use, would be inclined to agree with Tim that its safety would always be suspect and the hardware would disappear in no time. However, as I suggested in point 3, this would not be the case.
6. What can possibly be more important than caving equipment in a caving club?? We have just spent a small fortune in refurbishing the hut (and very nice it is too), but surely the ultimate objective 15 to get people caving proficiently.
In summary, it is unrealistic to expect the younger members
of the club to cave solely on ladder when a much wider scope to their
activities is offered to them with S.R.T. There is, of course, a responsibility to the individual to equip himself
with a reasonable amount of equipment but you cannot expect anyone to be self
sufficient in ropes, bolts etc for a long
Clearly it is a subject that is open to debate. As Caving Secrtetary I have been asked to organise
some
The committee will not go ahead with the purchase of Club Meet S.R.T. tackle without first publishing its exact proposals and ensuring that it is carrying out the wishes of the caving members, so let us know what you want.
Mark
Upper Flood is a conservationistÂ’s headache. Now read on ...
Originally known as Blackmoor Flood Swallet this cave was one of the bonuses of the 1968 flood that washed away the Forty and the road at Velvet Bottom. The heavily choked passage was originally explored by the MCG and subsequently dug by both Willie Stanton and that club whose headquarters lie conveniently within walking distance. Although the cave promised much, lying at the head of the Velvet Bottom catchment area near the limestone/shale boundary with a potential 700 feet of vertical range, it became clear that siege tactics were required. The once roomy ancient stream passage was choked with fill, stal obstructions and lead tailings. It has taken nearly 17 years of digging, blasting, wall construction and back filling to gain access to the present cave. It has paid off for the MCG who now have in their grasp potentially one of the deepest caves on Mendip, if not the country, and despite the length of the known cave the depth potential still remains.
The entrance lies on land controlled by the county council which is why access arrangements are fairly tight. Parties of four including a MCG leader are allowed down but due to the nature of the cave overcrowding and damage to formations can be a risk if more than one or two groups are down the cave. My interest in the cave was photographic and it must be said that it lends itself to photography magnificently.
A concrete barrel shaft drops two metres into a small chamber from which a flight of steps leads to a rift passage. A further short drop intercepts a small stream. Upstream can be followed for a short distance while downstream continues as a stooping or crawling size passage on a very shallow gradient. At various points evidence of the Intensive excavations can be seen In the form of walls. Malcolm Cotter tells me that in places the passage has been back filled to a depth of 1.5 metres or more. Eventually after 275 metres or so the roof lowers to a muddy grovel partially full of water. However, the enthusiasm of the explorer is more than stimulated by the draught of cold air and the sound of running water. A wriggle up a mud covered stal slope and a squeeze through stal curtains leads to one of the most dramatic entrances on Mendip.
One stands (carefully avoiding the numerous straws above ones head) on a big stal slope in a roomy well decorated chamber. On one's right a large stream gurgles out of the wall, crosses the chamber~ and splashes off at bottom left into the enticing darkness. This is Midnight Chamber, the breakthrough point.
Upstream the passage is a low crawl to a sump whilst downstream the cave continues as a crawl. Here the damage to stal formations is most evident and I suspect that although this is by far the most vulnerable part of the cave that much of the destruction was caused by the excited first explorers. This is hardly surprising because the passage consists of a crawl about 1.5 metres high and 1 metre wide along the walls of which are arranged a mass of stals on a false floor whilst the roof is studded with a forest of stalactites. Delicate crawling in the stream leads to a boulder obstruction through which one gingerly worms into the next section.
Here the streamway widens a little but the roof remains low. Some attractive stal bosses can be seen on ledges on the left and there is enough exposed limestone to observe the nature of the rock. It is extremely shaly and it seems to me that the best formations can be seen in the shaly sections. Stal formations and shale seem to go together – does anybody know why? Anyone also cannot fail to notice the black marks on many of the stalagmites. Closer examination shows the marks to have legs and that they are the remains of dead flies. Presumably flies hatch from eggs carried in by the stream on rotting vegetation and then die from lack of food. Incidentally there is little evidence of flood damage to the formations which suggest the streamway can cope with large volumes of water of that the ingress of water is limited. Now that there is an excavated entrance to the cave a repeat of the 1968 floods could destroy the decorations and the MCG have already thought in terms of constructing some kind of flood gate to the entrance. The streamway turns a corner passing a massive stal bank on which are arranged numerous numbers of totem pole stalagmites, some at angles suggesting breakage and re-cementing. The straws in this section are some of the best on Mendip. Just before the stream dives into a bedding crawl one can see clumps of stal on the floor. If one looks closely one can see straws that have been formed, broken off, and have been re-cemented before the floor they were on was broken off, and washed into the stream. I must say that this suggests to me that the cave is pretty ancient!
Beyond the bedding crawl one enters the second largest chamber which is really a washed out shale bed. Some nice false flooring remains here. A squeeze under boulders at stream level leads to another bedding passage which suddenly develops as a rift at a corner. Here one can walk upright for only the second time since leaving Midnight Chamber. This state of affairs doesnÂ’t last long because another crawl looms up. Here the roar of a waterfall can be heard but disappointment soon supervenes as the stream is found to drop 3 metres down a narrow slot into a low sumped-up crawl which has not been passed since I last visited the cave, just before Christmas.
All is not lost however for above the waterfall is a short climb into a small decorated chamber. A low excavated crawl leads to the current terminus – a tube filled with stal false flooring and mud. It is possible to gaze into the promised land beyond and feel the hint of a draught. The spoil heap in the chamber has been decorated with examples of cave art ranging from the obscene to the ingenious. At the end of the cave one is less than 30 metres below the entrance with most of the depth potential of the system unrealised. God knows what will happen to the pretty bits if the system gets really massive – hence my initial statement.
Peter Glanville – January 1986
The first time I heard rumour of an expedition to the South of France was in an art lesson at school. At that stage I had no idea that I would be a participant, but on hearing that it was to be a club trip with everybody involved, I was determined not to be left out. I borrowed and begged as much as possible and the rest I was; able to buy due to the “Ian Dear memorial Fund” grant. The few SRI practices I was able to go on, because of my exams, indicated that my SRT was very poor, in fact, the only time I was confident of it was at the top of Ruiz.
The journey down to the South of France as tiring but
enjoyable. We avoided the motorways~
sticking to the country lanes, thus seeing a little more of
The afternoon we arrived I managed to damage my ankle, and so was forced to sit around for a couple of days, resting it and cursing. The first trip that I managed was to the Gournier with Robin, Paul and John, my travelling companions. The cave was superb. In the entrance was a beautiful, crystal-clear lake which had to be swum to gain entry to the cave. The freezing swim was followed by a short ladder climb into extensive passages With powerful formations. As my ankle coped with the Gournier I was ready to have a go at the Berger.
The hike from the campsite to the cave entrance almost finished me off but putting my kit on brought the adrenalin pumping back! After a year of Mendip cave entrances the entrance to the Berger was quite awe inspiring. A large hole in the ground surrounded by scaffolding and memorial plaques to those who have died there.
I started descending the Berge, midday on the Thursday, with Robin G., Paul M., Edic H. and John C. We each had kit bags for food, sleeping bags etc. Mine seemed to weigh a ton, I think I took too many packets of glucose sweets! I really enjoyed the descending of the cave - that was until we reached AldoÂ’s. AldoÂ’s terrified me. After traversing over the top I sat shaking at the top of the pitch. I peered ever the edge to see the others but all I could see were pinholes of light. I took a few deep breaths and with great care abseiled down. At the bottom I felt completely overwhelmed and couldnÂ’t say a word.
The Gouffre Berger was big! The passages were on a mega-Yorkshire scale. The boulder piles and pitches were of a size IÂ’ve never seen before and personally wouldnÂ’t mind not seeing again. The formations were spectacular, especially the Hall of Thirteen.
At Camp 1 we had a welcome cup of tea before carrying on. Just after the Hall of Thirteen Paul slipped and twisted his ankle. Robin volunteered to return with him whilst John, Edric and myself carried on. I thought the second half of the cave was similar to an overgrown Swildons, but more exciting. As the cave grew wetter my furry suit grew baggier and soggier. I had a slight hiccup with my SRT 8ft off the ground on one of the wetter pitches but by standing on Edric I was able to unhitch myself. As we ventured deeper and deeper into the cave, the feeling we got from meeting people coming from the bottom spurred us on. Finally we arrived at the top of Little Monkey and stopped to check our carbide supplies but found that they were low. We decided we ought to turn back two pitches from the bottom. It wasnÂ’t until we started going up the pitches that I noticed how tired I was. Edric hurried on as he was cold, whilst John and I ambled back to Camp 1. I found myself getting slower and slower and dropped off to sleep if we stopped. After 19 hours underground we reached Camp 1. I felt absolutely shattered. We stripped off our damp kit and crawled into sleeping bags. I didnÂ’t sleep but to stop moving was reward enough. Six hours later we started making moves to go out. I think one of the hardest things IÂ’ve ever done was crawling out of my warm sleeping bag into damp cold kit with the feeling of dread from knowing what is to come and that itÂ’s all up hill! From Camp 1 to the surface I ate glucose tablets by the packet so that now and again I had spurts of energy. At Aldo's I had a panic. My chest jammer would not run up the rope correctly and kept coming off. John calmed me down, sorted the jammer out and convinced me that I could do it. Finally, after what seemed a lifetime, I clipped my cowÂ’s tail in at the top of Ruiz. I vowed then and there not to go down again. The elation and relief I felt was immense, only comparable to seeing daylight the next morning or to using Dany's udder cream on my "Berger" hands.
Other caves we explored whilst in
Thinking back now about the Berger, I donÂ’t think it was as physically difficult as people tend to believe but more psychologically difficult. The feeling of desolation at the bottom of AldoÂ’s and the desperation to get out was much harder to cope with than any of the caving done within the Berger. All in all, it was an experience IÂ’ll never forget and a superb trip.
WhenÂ’s the next one?
Lisa Taylor
As a minor distraction we turned our minds to a little bit
of digging, just to break up the hilarity. Steve Allen and
It was time then to retreat and let the next shift have a
go.
SEE THE NEXT ISSUE FOR - The Story so farÂ…Â….
Steve Milner
The
Editor: Dave Turner
The views expressed by contributors to the Belfry Bulletin, including those of club officers are not necessarily the views of the committee of the Bristol Exploration Club, or the editor, unless so stated. The Editor cannot guarantee the accuracy of information contained in contributed matter as it cannot normally be checked in the time at his disposal.
Most members cannot fail to notice the increased size of this BB which unfortunately is due to bureaucratic ineptitude rather than reports of cave discoveries etc. It is a pity that the most significant find on Mendip for many years – The Cheddar River Cave - is totally eclipsed by the recent problems caused by the enforcement of the scheduling of all the major caves as SSSI’s.
We (Bob Cork, Hon. Sec. and I) have decided that we ought to present club members with all the relevant paperwork concerning the way which the Nature Conservancy Council (NCC) has notified landowners of the NCCÂ’s powers over scheduled land. We have decided to do so as the heavy handed way the NCC has exerted its power has caused the biggest upset in caver/landowner relations since caving began on Mendip at the turn of the century.
For those members who are out of touch with events on “The Hill” it should be pointed out that all active cavers fully understand and sympathise with the landowners anger. The major caves have been shut and the BEC Committee have closed Cuthbert’s for a period of 2 weeks to show solidarity. Most landowners realise that local cavers are not responsible for the NCC action but if it wasn't for cavers and caving this action would not have happened, and so we are involved and must try to achieve a compromise.
I have also included some of the correspondence and papers concerning the application for planning permission to develop caves in Fairy Cave Quarry as a show cave complex. This has been turned down by Mendip District Council and there is a strong feeling locally that the National Caving Association (NCA) exceeded its powers in its critical lobbying of Mendip District Councillors.
Dave Turner 21/5/86
In the light of the recent Data Protection Act members may be interested to know that the BEC membership list is held on a computer. As this list contains only that information required for BB delivery (number, name and address) there is no requirement for us to pay ÂŁ22 for each 3 years registration. Any member who objects to his name being held on a computer may have it removed - but don't blame me if this is your last BB!
Dave Turner
Karst Geomorphology - J.N. Jennings Caving Practice & Equipment - D. Judson
1072 Clive Lovell, Keynsham,
1073 Tracey Newstead, Wells,
1074 Henry Bennett, Pimlico,
1075 Brian Wafer, St Pauls Cray,
322 Bryan Ellis, Westonzoyland, Bridgwater
1071 Michael McDonald, Urchfont,
Devizes, Wiltshire
1067 Fiona McFall, Knowle, Bristol
1037 Dave Pike, Wookey Hole, Wells,
482 Gordon Selby, Wells, Somerset
1031 Mike Wigglesworth, Wells,
Somerset.
813
896 Pat Cronin, Knowle,
The main Mendip news at present is the major upheaval caused by the NCC scheduling cave sites as SSSIÂ’s, a subject that I have enlarged upon in a separate article in this bulletin. The response of the landowners to this action has been to shut a number of caves, namely: Hunters Hole, Swildons, Eastwater, Nine Barrows and Sludge Pit (16/5/86). We as a club were asked by the landowners to close St CuthbertÂ’s as a sign of good will. The committee was consulted and we agreed to stop any trips that had not been previously booked, for a period of two weeks from 18/5/86. This decision was not taken lightly, but it was felt that we should do as much as possible to support the landowners in their protest against the restrictions imposed upon them.
The committee realised a need for the club archives to be sorted, shortly after the last AGM. Alan Thomas offered his services and was appointed to this non-committee post. He has since been busy doing things archivists do and has recently come up with his first find, a letter which will hopefully find our elusive mining log. The material in the archives shows a great deal of club history and members who need any information of this nature should contact Alan directly.
ST 468.540
by Richard Stevenson
The three most obvious sites for gaining entrance to the main river cave are Skeleton Pit in GoughÂ’s Cave entrance, Sayes Hole and the actual risings. The first recorded dives were in May 1955 and in the cases of Skeleton Pit and the Cheddar Risings no material progress has been made since those original dives.
SKELETON PIT
21.5.55 R.E.DAVIES
Using an aqualung, the diver reached a depth of 74 ft. at which point the rift became too narrow for further progress; size 20" by 4ft. No side passages were observed in the poor visibility but possibilities were thought to exist at a higher level.
CDG Rev, 6 (1953/5)
WCC Jnl.(51), 17 (1955)
First Feeder
21.5.55 R.E.DAVIES & J.S.BUXTON
The divers explored under the arch and found many small holes; the biggest was about 5 ft deep and would admit a body, but at its lowest point would only just admit a pair of feet. No progress was made.
CDG REV, 6 (1953/5)
WCC Jnl.(51), 17 (1955)
None of the other risings are of any interest to the group, being all too tight to dive.
Conclusion. Many tons of rock would have to be removed from the First Feeder before any progress can be made.
The first dive in Sayes Hole on 31st May 1955 by J S Buxton terminated at a slot in the floor at 25-30 ft depth and 40 ft from base. This slot was passed by Messrs Drew, Savage and Woodlng in the autumn of 1965, who emerged in the main river. Upstream this passage was reported blocked at 150 ft by boulder chokes and downstream becomes impenetrable after 40 ft.
Subsequent dives have reported the upstream distance to be approximately 70ft and no further progress has been made.
During late 1985 Mike Duck and I expended considerable effort digging into the second rising where we passed a very tight squeeze and dropped into a small underwater chamber with a flow of water. The way upstream is very tight and may be blocked with boulders.
The first Somerset Sump Index produced by Ray Mansfield in April 1964 contained the following introduction to GoughÂ’s Cave.
This cave contains three sumps, all of which fall into the class that has been called Reservoir. Of these three water surfaces only the so called 'Skeleton Pit' is large enough to dive. The level of all three sumps is approximately the same, and like that of Saye's Hole, they rise when, in times of flood, the resurgences become over laden. At such times water rises within the cave from gravel in the floor of the passage at its lowest point; considerable flooding of the cave then occurs.
Andy Sparrow suggested to me, in his own inimitable way, that I might like to have a look at the sump in the oxbows. It was getting near to closing time, I was in no fit state to argue and it seemed like a good idea at the time! The dive was fixed for the following Monday evening. I looked back at my old newsletters, and found a log for the site which did little for my enthusiasm.
GOUGHÂ’S CAVE Cheddar
ST 467.539
18th May 1980
Diver: M.J. Farr
Aim: to examine the recently discovered sump about 200m from the entrance.
The sump pool is approached via a narrow (1.5 x 0.75 m.) pot, ten metres deep. In clear water the sump (0.75 m. in diam) appeared to level off into a larger passage after a couple of metres.
On diving, feet first, any horizontal development was ruled out. The pot continued on down over a small ledge. Visibility nil. The passage dimensions together with excessive sediment left a lot to be desired, and at -10m. the diver was concerned as to the position of his line, plus the fact that his valve was not performing satisfactorily. The pot continued. Little difficulty was experienced on the ascent and a further dive using a large cylinder could well be a good idea.
Monday evening came (11th November) and I set off with Quackers and an ebullient Sparrow. The approach had all the makings of a Sparrow delight, awkward and very muddy. The descent to the sump is a fairly difficult climb with loose rocks on the ledges. We took a rope to assist on the climb and I dived on a single set of kit using the end of the rope as base fed diving line. I descended 45ft in totally zero visibility in a tight pot to bottom on a mud bank. There was an impression of a void on my left but I had run out of rope and was unwilling to drag it sideways with such a difficult descent. I returned to the surface with only moderate difficulty.
A return dive was made a week later with a line reel and lead weight. In view of the restricted nature of the sump and its approach coupled with a desire not to be overly optimistic I dived on a single set without fins. The descent was accomplished without problem (other than it feels about a hundred feet deep) and the line belayed to the lead weight on the mud bank. A traverse of about ten feet to the left resulted in a noticeable temperature drop and I emerged into a large river passage of crystal clear water with visibility of approximately twenty feet. What a contrast from the tube I had descended, and what a fool I felt without fins or a second set of diving equipment.
Diving was out of the question from mid December until early February as a result of flooding.
Subsequent dives in the company of Rob Harper have resulted in 500 ft. magnificent river passage terminating in a chamber. The chamber, which has no dry land, crosses the main river and is approximately one hundred feet long, forty feet high and fifteen feet wide. The chamber has been called "Lloyd Hall", I know Oliver would have been very excited about these discoveries and it seems a pity that he died such a short time before.
Rob Palmer and I have continued exploration from Lloyd
Hall. A steeply descending drop through
boulders to 40ft and difficult route finding lead in about 100ft to a wide
bedding with a scalloped floor. A
further 100ft of awkward passage with huge deep cross rifts and rock bridges
finally yielded a magnificent sandy floored ascending passage maybe 20ft
wide. This ascended up the bedding to
break surface on a small sandy beach some 350ft from Lloyd Hall. Two very small airbells were found and, in
view of Martin and Sue Bishop's wedding, were named "Wedding
Bells". A climb over boulders from
the beach led into a large chamber, the "
One of the more unfortunate aspects of underwater cave
exploration 1is the effect it has on the cave environment. Little blind white wriggling things can cope
quite well with rising flood waters (they simply hide), but a sudden careless
fin stroke, an unexpected stream of air bubbles across the roof, a
silt-ploughing diver, all do them no good whatsoever. Its not publicity that hurts caves, it's
cavers, and there is great responsibility in exploration. Already, in exploring the
So, there are a few guidelines we are using, to coin a
pun. The lines themselves are being laid
along the left hand wall, tautly, to avoid divers straying off a given
path. Except for check-out examination
on exploration dives, the other side of the passage is 'verboten'. The concept of taped off sections is being
applied for the first time in underwater cave exploration in
The
A preliminary collection has recorded three invertebrate species, each worthy of note. Gammarus pulex, a troglophilic amphipod appears in the cave, unusually lacking in pigmentation. Many Gammarus in caves have started their life in surface and been washed underground, after daylight has had a chance to trigger pigmentation. The Cheddar specimen has obviously spent its entire life underground.
A white flatworm, Dendrocoleum lacteum, is an unusual troglophile. Its habitat is more usually in shallow, eutrophic, sluggish waters on the surface, quite the opposite to rock-floored underground river passages. It has been recorded elsewhere in the Mendip underworld, and is probably there because the food is good. Dendrocoleum munches its way through a troglobitic isopod, the only true cave animal so far recorded in the sump. This tiny isopod, Procellus cavitatus, is common enough in Welsh caves, but the Cheddar ones are comparative giants. Almost half as big again as their Welsh cousins. The Cheddar Procellus helps keep the cave clean, feeding on organic refuse swept down on the cave waters, and may well be partly responsible for the clean-up of many of the pollution events which have affected the system in the past, such as the discharge of slaughterhouse wastes into Longwood in the late 1970's, which made Longwood very unpleasant for a while, but which had no effect on the waters at the risings. Procellus falls victim to the sticky trail left by the flatworms, which on retracing their wriggling way, make passing meals of the luckless isopods, who simply stick around waiting to be eaten.
I should like to thank Sandra Lee and Chris Bradshaw for their eager support, all the staff and cavers for the invaluable assistance they have given in portering equipment and making the approach somewhat less objectionable, and Quackers for his tireless efforts as dive controller. The information on the wildlife and the survey were kindly supplied by Rob Palmer.
by Mark Lumley
The Rock Steady Crew had a major push on the Hard Rock
Extensions from Thursday 24th May to Sunday 27th. This required a three or four night's camp 2
1/2 miles underground at the Hard Rock Cafe set up in the oxbows off the
Because of the severity of the undertaking we briefed
everyone to bring in some kind of comforts. In the event everyone went completely over the top. So, when on Saturday night we were visited by
Clive Gardener and Arthur Millet, they were agog at the sight of a passage
festooned with balloons and streamers. Our stereo blared Jean Michael Jarre at them on full volume and we
invited them for a meal of Soup followed by Macaroni Cheese and beef burgers
(with bread rolls~ mayonnaise and fresh lettuce, of course!!). All this was washed down with liberal
quantities of Ovaltine, coffee, tea (with lemon or milk), rum, whiskey and
various other forms of liquor smuggled back from
We organised ourselves into two digging teams, one for the daytime and one to dig at night. This worked very efficiently and over breakfast we were entertained by the antics of the previous shift staggering to their beds as pissed as newts.
Our previous digs pushed the H.R. Extensions to over 1/2km
terminating in a 40ft wide bedding chamber end in breakdown (
The crew left the cave on Sunday afternoon and evening, clocking up 65-75 hours of caving per person. On arriving back at Whitewalls we met our 'Back up' team. They had got so pissed on Friday night that they were incapable of coming into the cave - lucky sods!
Although the main breakthrough was not forthcoming on this trip, it is clearly only a matter of perseverance. We put in about 100 man hours of actual digging on this trip and will return for a further 3 day camp from the 29th May to 1st June. The site is well worth the effort with miles of cave beyond. There is a good possibility of a connection with Agen Allwedd and every sign that weÂ’re on the right track to meet the elusive Llangattock 'master cave'.
The LADS were back in Co. Clare again for 2 weeks this
Easter. Most of our time was spent
digging at sites observed in previous years but there was plenty of time for
some good, sporting caving too.
We noted, however, that the good will between landowners and cavers is being stretched to the limits by a minority of "Silly Buggers". The walls near popular caves frequently have stones missing and people are regularly stomping over the farmer's land without even having the courtesy to ask permission – the landowner for Pol-an-lonain has bricked up the entrance of the cave because he is annoyed at the situation. We found on our arrival at our Poulnagarsuin digging site that the wall we had built around the main shaft to safeguard the landowner's (Gus Curtin) livestock had been partially demolished by so called 'cavers' throwing rocks down to hear how deep it was. This resulted in Gus, a man in his seventies, having to cap the shaft himself and a less understanding man may well have curtailed future digging efforts (as it was, we were granted permission and even shown around other likely digging sites!).
On requesting permission to dig at the site of the main swallet by B8d (Caves of County Clare), a site which we looked at in 1985, we were made most welcome to check out any cave on the farmer's land but permission to dig was not granted - frustrating since the site looks as though it should go to a usable canyon a with a minimum of effort.
On our last day we observed a large shallow depression 50m northeast of the circular fortification (caker) towards the northern end of the Balinny depression, just east of the green road. This contains at least 5 sinkholes, none of which seem to have been looked at. We will dig the most southerly of these on our next trip to Clare.
We returned to our dig at Poulnagarsuin (400m south along the shale margin of W. Knockauns Mountain from Polomega) and concentrated our efforts on the boulder choked entrance, P2, 20ft south west of our original site. After a day's intensive digging we had managed to descend vertically about 25ft into the tight upper section of a canyon at least 40ft high at the bottom of which a large stream could be heard. Our way down was thwarted by the steep, loose boulder slope alongside and above us. Sections of this had already collapsed into the confines of the digging face and we considered it a safer option to approach the canyon through our original entrance (PI), the bottom of which we estimated to be 15-20ft above the canyon floor and about 25-30ft away.
The P1 shaft was taking a Swildons sized stream which we diverted around the depression into P2. Two days later we had completely excavated the 3ft by 6ft shaft down to a depth of 45ft where it headed along a strongly draughting rift through which the stream could be heard. A further day was spent digging about 12ft along the rift but it became too tight to push, only feet away from the elusive canyon.
We left the site with PI capped and P2 completely filled in to safeguard livestock. Next year will hopefully see us through by less orthodox methods.
Mark Lumley.
The rest of the account of the BEC Easter trip to
Ed.
Driving north-westwards from the most southerly point of
South Island we were surprised to come across an AA road sign "
The caves are in fact known as
Apart from a crawl through a boulder collapse under a second entrance, and one low arch, the whole cave is walking size. A single passage zigzags along joints, gradually moving further from the valley side. It is clean washed except for mud and vegetation debris deposited at the sharp passage bends. There is a little stal and some rimstone pools, but most of the system seems to be epi-pheratic in origin and is still very flood prone. Gradually the floor develops pools and we were stopped eventually by a wide deep pool not far from the third entrance.
From Clifden we moved on to Te Auan and Fiordland, where we
met up with Kevan Wilde (Ranger, Waitomo), Marja Wilde, Trevor Worthy (on a
grant to collect/study sub-fossils - bones) et alp. They had kindly brought down all our caving
gear from
The limestone in this region is young - Oligocene, and lies
in a 30 - 50 metre thick sloping band on top of ancient impermeable rocks. Its upper surface forms the upland tussock
country, and in places is overlain by volcanic dust and cinders. Much of the water in the caves derives from
the peaty basins below volcanic
The Southland Caving Group were active in the Luxmore region in the early 60's and some twenty sites were discovered, ranging from Luxmore Cave - over 800m long, to short, unroofed half caves and canyons. No doubt location maps were made, and certainly some caves were surveyed. Unfortunately the group disbanded, cave sites were forgotten and surveys lost. Caves have since been rediscovered, renamed and re-explored but there is much confusion even in current documentation.
Although we had free use of the hut, again courtesy of the National Park, it was already overfull, so we two laid down a mattress of dead tussock grass outside and bivied beneath the stars. In the morning we were rudely awakened by keas. The kea is a mountain parrot, tame and fearless, of devious cunning, inquisitive, noisy, thieving and destructive. Down sleeping bags take a few seconds to tear apart with the beak; rucksacs last a little longer. We cleared our snow covered gear quickly away, and hid the SRT rope too! From then on the keas were constant pests, and sources of amusement, especially when they hung upside down, to peer at us at work in the 'long drop privy'.
Out first cave. B.P.C. Grovel Extension is a large rift, mainly easy walking for about 200m upstream to narrower passages and chokes. Here, in a shallow calcite pool, we found the first sub-fossils, bones of the very rare kakepo, a ground parrot. Nearby, Calcite Cave, only 60m long, had no bones, but a profusion of good stal - rimstone, curtains etc., once a pure white but now somewhat muddied by visitors. Many non-cavers visit the Mt. Luxmore Hut and some of the nearby caves are easily found, of low grade, and very vulnerable. Moving over the 'cave field' to the bigger systems in this group, we entered Luxless Cave, in a large doline an overhanging climb, or a narrow twisting passage, with the stream, in sharp rock, led to a large twilit entrance chamber at the head of a big sloping tunnel. We worked our way slowly down, carefully examining the banks of the stream and the wall slopes and looking under stones. The best find was a complete skunk skeleton. The cave became very low towards the sump/choke, but a side passage, crawling in above a short climb, led to some bigger breakdown chambers. There were excellent examples of slickensides in the roof. The stream, now regained, finally trickled away under boulders, but by going upstream a little we found a small pheratic tube with a narrow vadose trench enabling us to loop back to the crawl. Altogether there were several hundred metres of cave.
The final system of the day was Luxmore, close to Luxless and running parallel to it. At one end of an elongated doline a narrow climb down led into big sloping passage, with a small stream that tumbled down various rocks and small cascades. The passage quickly became more confused, passing two inlets on the right, one to Iron Maiden and one to White Exit. At a third passage, off to the left, the passage reduced in height and width still further - from 2 or 3m high to 1m and from 1 or 2m wide down to 1/2m - a narrow twisting slightly awkward cave down to the sump, or final low bit. The passage to the left was once very beautiful - a thin white calcite floor overlaying fine translucent dog-tooth spar had been permanently muddied and ruined by careless traffic and glittering with flows had dark handprints in the middle. NZSS have a policy of not publishing cave locations nor publicising spelaeology. However, the caves are mentioned in national park literature and non-cavers are openly encouraged to go wild caving in certain areas of N.Z. Perhaps this is why Luxmore has suffered.
On our way out of the cave we examined the Iron Maiden series, essentially a single decorated passage with a small stream cutting in and out via low oxbows. At the end was a low section with draughting avens. The other passage inlet, White Exit, seemed to provide a good alternative route out, and we squeezed and climbed amongst pretty decorations until the passage became ludicrously narrow with no sign of daylight or draught. We returned to the main entrance to be met by large flakes of snow and a soggy tramp back through the long tussock grass.
Beyond the first cave field, at least a further half hour's
walk away, lay the second limestone site, dominated by a deep V-section gorge
cut in bare rock. We visited this area
on our fourth day at Luxmore and examined a site which began in the valley side
as a tube quickly leading to a pitch. We
rigged this with far too much rope - it was less than 20 feet and could be
bypassed altogether by an awkward exposed free climb, below which more bones
were found. We had been led to expect
several short rope pitches till the initial sections of this cave, which could
well be
Up valley from the Steadfast entrance and just below the
gravelly stream sinks an obvious hole emitted sounds of falling water. We were told that the pitch here was very
deep and put down our longest rope. In
fact, an inclined rift was easily free climbed for about 50ft and only the next
20ft to the floor required SRT gear. Water cascaded in over the vertical section and over me. Groping in the dark I wished again, and not
for the last time, for a decent alternative to the Premier stinkie. Alight once more and a 6 foot wide, high, wet
rift was revealed, and up from here led quickly to the most beautiful
formations in the area.. As in
While hundreds of trampers and a few cavers visit the
Luxmore area, very few people ever get to see
Having left Luxmore in the morning and had a beer or two in Te Anou for lunch, we took the boat across the lake and quickly tramped the 40 minutes through luxuriant deep green bush to reach the huge, old entrance (the stream now sinks further up valley). A wide gorge, hidden amongst trees, drops into a semi-circular arch, 80 feet or more wide and 50 feet high, whence the passage quickly descends into gloom and then blackness. The entrance is surrounded by bush, some trees even growing inside, replaced rapidly by ferns and mosses in the deeper, green dampness further in. A little further in, still outside the threshold, the ground was dusty dry, and we found several flat platforms, amongst the slope of boulders, suitable for bivouac.
Most of
Without tackle there was no way down, so back through the
stal we looked at a possible route down, through a low crawl and down a climb
where all the holds fell off. We arrived
on another balcony where the only way to the torrent below was to jump. We opted to re-climb the now hold less
wall. Listening elsewhere for sounds of
the stream, we found the correct route eventually, emerging on a shelf right
beside the water. Making our way
downstream we soon found that wherever the water was confined, and therefore
rather fast, we could bridge the gap, traverse or jump from one side to the
other. Elsewhere we waded, up to waist
deep, and once or twice avoided the stream altogether using wide, low oxbows. Finally we stopped at
Eight hours later, after a good sleep in the cave mouth and a brief walk down the hill, we were on our way back across the lake, with only the boat's wake disturbing the early morning calm. An excellent way to end an excellent week of caving.
Graham Wilton-Jones.
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The BEC second motto - "The BEC get everywhere" -
should be changed to "The Wiltom-Jones's get everywhere". Not to be outdone by Graham and Jane's antics
in New Zealand, Ian has been proving that there are caves in the most unlikely
places and I must thank Annie for the following article which she thinks will
be of interest to BEC members, even though the cave described was so simple as
to be un-gradable. "The rock" is a massive sandstone outcrop about 8
miles from Abqaiq in the
We arrived at the rock after 1 hr 3 mins of running and stopped for bottled spring water from a local shop. We then went clambering over the Dali like rocks, with all their grotesque and weird shapes. Many of the valleys gave strong reminiscences of vadose stream passages underground. We took several photographs and then strolled through the next village.
Out the other side and we were beginning to wonder if we had the right rock because there was no sign of the cave (which we were told was very conspicuous with a professional looking car park). Still, the road appeared to be encircling the rock, just as described. Finally, we came upon it, right round the other side. Yes, it was easy to find!
The features of the rock had changed. On the south and south east, there were deep valleys, starting with sheer drops of about 50ft or more from the valley above, with very open tops (i.e. V - shaped or U - shaped) and some A - shaped holes. In we went, on a tarmac path which soon disappeared once we were inside. There were a maze of passages, some interconnecting at different heights (i.e. surprise drops - splat! - of 20 to 30ft). All the time you could either sense the daylight above, or actually see it, some 80ft skywards. The passage shape was nearly always vadose A - type and very straight. Side passages were either perpendicular or parallel to the main passage (very much like OFD). The blocks of sandstone were huge and rectangular.
Sometimes you could see boulders exactly the same size as the cleft, jammed precariously above, waiting to drop. The odd pebble was falling from time to time so it was no mean threat.
There was, generally, good electric lighting in the form of weak street lamps set high up. Where there were none usually signified the end of the main passage where the amount of light from above indicated the main water entrance in times of heavy rain. I must return to the dark side passages with a torch and check them all out.
There were several park benches inside~ available for people to picnic - not that I saw anyone doing so although others have. If you did not wish to use a park bench there was plenty of sandy floor to sit on - real sand, not the usual cave mud.
We went outside and prepared to climb over the top of the rock. Up we went, through one of the ascending valleys and came out on a completely different landscape - stones scattered everywhere, many small valleys and extremely lunar like, totally devoid of vegetation. Off the rock to the north was desert with many green clumps scattered around it. In all other directions, there were palm trees as far as the eye could see in the heavy heat haze.
We walked in a large arc, avoiding the areas where the cave was underneath as much as possible. We could see several valleys joining together and obviously supplying the water in times of flood which created the cave in the first place.
We reached the northernmost portion of the rock on which a small TV receiving mast had been sited. From here we could see a third feature of the sides of this hill. To the west the area was strewn with many giant boulders stacked higgledy-piggledy together. The sandstone here was much firmer, not crumbly at all. It was a real challenge getting off the hill here, and we made several attempt before finding a suitable route which did not require us to negotiate a 20ft drop.
We made a beeline for a small village which had a huge rock situated in the middle of it. The rock had the appearance of a cottage loaf, round and bun-like with a half size bun on top. The bottom "bun' had several caves hewn into it. The roofs of these caves were black, indicating that many fires had been burnt here in the past, possibly for Kapsa banquets like the one I have already been to. Here sheep and rice and fruit are eaten, by hand, around a large mat. Many sand martins were nesting in parts of these caves as they were in many other parts of the main hillside.
No shop in the village so we ran on to the village we had visited initially to obtain bottled water and chocolate bars to fortify ourselves for the run "home".
Ian Wilton-Jones.
by Brian Workman
At the end of 1985 I was approached by a landowner in Oakhill and asked if I would inspect a hole which had been disclosed by a tractor cutting hedges in one of their fields.
The hole is located 300yds south west of the Oakhill 1m on the opposite side of the road to Pondsmead House. The entrance was found to be 16 feet deep leading into a small chamber with an active stream entering from the east (from under the road) out of a narrow rift and sinking on the opposite side into a mud choked rift.
The water is believed to come from the artificial lakes within the grounds of Pondsmead House which sinks in Stout Slocker, the water from which is known to re-appear at Ashwick Grove Risings.
Council Of Southern
Cave Clubs
Constituent member of NCA
WATERWHEEL SWALLET & BLACKMOOR UPPER FLOOD SWALLET
Mendip Caving Group have now formally taken on access control to Waterwheel Swallet and they have issued the following statement for information.
"You will know that we already have accepted responsibility for our own and other caverÂ’s access to Blackmoor Upper Flood Swallet, also in Velvet Bottom. As a representative of the landowners Terry Mathews of the Charterhouse Field Centre requested that we should administer an access arrangement following the discovery of a well decorated continuation of the cave in April 1985. The basic requirements of this informal access agreement are:
a) Visits must be led by a member of MCG
b) Visitors must complete a Field Centre visit card each - held at Nordrach Cottage
c) Party size is limited to four including leader
d) No novices are permitted
e) No carbide lamps are permitted
f) Suitable clothing should be worn to enable crawling in the stream to avoid formations in the roof
The underlying purpose of this set of guidelines is to minimise damage to the profusion of delicate formation which abound in the streamway.
Willie Stanton has recently relinquished his interest in, and control of, Waterwheel Swallet. This has presented an opportunity to make access to this cave more freely available to cavers. As a temporary measure, Terry Mathews has requested this group to administer access under the same arrangements which apply to Upper Flood. There is no alternative arrangement available at present and we have agreed to the request, with the proviso that the arrangements shall be reviewed in approximately six months time from March 1986.
We accept this responsibility in the knowledge that it places an extra burden on our members, but at least gains a means of access to ourselves and other cavers. We do request that cavers wishing to visit either of the caves concerned should make prior arrangements with any of our members. Turning up at Nordrach Cottage on spec may lead to disappointment.
SINGING RIVER MINE
The parcel of land containing the entrance is now in the
ownership of the adjacent householders and essentially forms an extension to
their garden. They are happy for cavers
to have continued access, but ask that visitors stick to the path when
approaching the entrance and avoid their son's radio controlled car racetrack,
some bridges over this having been damaged. The path is obvious but they are intending to gravel it in the near
future and rebuild the stile. They have
also asked that everyone pay attention to closing the field gate, and
preferably lock themselves into the mine when underground. The access arrangements with the previous
owner only enabled five keys to be available from the major clubs, however it
has been possible to renegotiate this and in future keys will be available to
anyone upon request. To simplify matters
the lock on the mine is now the same as on Cuckoo Cleeves and the one key,
available from myself or the
"LIVE AND LET LIVE"
BROWNS FOLLY MINE
The Avon Wildlife Trust have now fitted the new gates on the mine which they originally planned to do last July. It is intended that these will be locked by mid May. Access is controlled by the Southern Caving Clubs Co Ltd under a licence and keys are available for loan direct from the company or by arrangement from any company shareholding club.
The Trust has asked that the following statement is published:
New bat grilles for Browns Folly Mine
Avon Wildlife Trust now owns the whole of the Bathford Hill
woodlands at Browns Folly, three miles east of
Two of the bat grilles (NGR ST 79496634 and 79466587) will be gated to allow access to bona fida cavers and application for keys should be made to the licence holder SCC Co Ltd.
Avon Wildlife Trust appreciates, on behalf of the bats, the considerate co-operation of cavers. The Trust welcomes notification of visits by telephone on 0272 326885, and is interested to hear about numbers of greater horseshoe bats observed. Visits should be timed to avoid the critical late hibernation period in March/April.
Graham Price
Conservation and Access Officer
1. 5 .86
Jeremy has passed me the following letter which he has received from Daphne Towler as it may interest many of our members from the 50"s etc.
Bognor Regis
23rd April 1986
Dear Jeremy
Please find enclosed cheque for ÂŁ55 towards the Hut Fund. This is my contribution from the eleven Engrave Glasses ordered to celebrate the ClubÂ’s 50th Anniversary. I must say that I had hoped to be sending you a much larger cheque but it appears that Engraved Glass doesnÂ’t appeal to cavers.
The Engraving wasn’t put out as a Fund Raising project by your Committee’s choice – I would hate people to think that I was only offering the glasses for my own financial reward.
I hope by now that the Hut Fund looks healthier. I have very happy memories of my short caving time in the late 50’s, and send my best wishes to anyone who may remember me (probably as Daphne Stenner – as I was then) and also to the Club for its continued success, Only one of my sons appears to have caught the caving bug and that not too forcefully. I enjoy reading the BB even though it gets more difficult to put faces to names
All the best
Sincerely
Daphne Towler (381)
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Dear Dave (or Ed as you are now known),
Firstly, keep up the good work with the B.B. even though I yawned with boredom as yet another pros. and cons. argument loomed its ugly head. Should the club buy SRT ropes? What a daft question! I remember the old wet suit arguments well. They'll encourage people into dangerous situations! Then there was the forbidden caving with less than six in a team. I remember Goon and I getting slated along with the Brook brothers in "The Speleologist" (God, I must be getting old) for doing just that and for "speeding". I remember you and I being called lunatics for abseiling into Lamb Leer and prussicking out. I remember the fights we had to be first out so as to have the clean prussick loops and remember your lunatic climbing methods that I adopted. Alan Thomas will tell you how Steve Grimes and I argued that we should abseil and prusick on the 1967 Ahnenschaft expedition.
Now IÂ’m a dedicated armchair caver that enjoys these memories but I do remember being smitten with the caving disease around 1963 and joining the R.A.F. Yatesbury Caving Club to satisfy the bug. In order to improve I joined the eminent club known as the M.N.R.C., worked hard and became Caving Secretary
with a good core of active cavers around me (you might remember). I fought hard for caving tackle and facilities but lost the battle against the knotted rope brigade. I accepted defeat and, together with the other active cavers joined the club that promoted caving, did the work and provided the equipment. That club was the B.E.C. around 1965. The caving part of the M.N.R.C. drifted into decline. I am unlikely to make use of SRT equipment but would be horrified at the thought of the B.E.C. becoming a bunch of old "has beens" like myself who would not support the younger active cavers in keeping up with the times.
Pete MacNab.
P.S. Please point out the date I joined the club to the Membership Secretary. I know I had a few lapsed years but B.E.C. policy was always to keep your original number.
Thanks for the compliment about the B.B. but the credit should go to all those members and others who have given me articles.
I agree wholeheartedly with Pete on the matter of club
tackle (sorry IÂ’m not an unbiased editor!). I joined the B.E.C. in 1965 for exactly the same reason as Pete. For the
record at the last committee meeting we unanimously allocated ÂŁ300 to the
Tackle Master to buy 100m of 11mm Bluewater SRT rope and other necessary
hardware to rig the "average"
Ed.
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Waramanga,
ACT 2611,
3/4/86
Dear Dave,
Thought members may be interested to hear that the BEC 50th
Anniversary was celebrated recently at the
The Bassetts have left us now after caving in the
Anyway expect the Bassetts will be writing an article on their exploits (they are more prolific writers than us)!
Cheers,
John and Sue Riley.
The menu is unfortunately too faint to photocopy but has Bertie at the top and is as follows:-
B.E.C.
50th ANTIPODEAN
DINNER
Bat Curry
Berties Beans
Bats
Cauliflower St.
Rice
Mendip Melon
Cheddar Cheese
Chilled Batwine
As many of you will know, over the past few weeks there has been much political activity on the hill. The cause of this being mainly the Fairy Cave Quarry proposals, and the scheduling of a substantial number of caves as "Sites of Special Scientific Interest" (SS81).
There has been a lot of pub talk, speculation and finger pointing, mostly based on rumours and misinformation. There has been very little available information, and what could be gleaned left a great deal of doubt in peoples minds. I have therefore presented for publication a compilation of material, that I have recently received as secretary, explaining the above problems more fully.
The matter of what we are going to do about them as a club is more complicated. At a recent committee meeting they were discussed at length and I was given a number of directives to take to the "Council of Southern Caving Clubs" (CSCC); they are as follows: -
1. The club will support any action that would re-establish and improve relations between the caving community and local landowners.
2. The club supports, with reservations, the
proposal to turn certain caves within the Fairy Cave Quarry complex into
3. The club will propose Tim Large as Conservation and Access Officer of the CSCC.
4. The club does not have confidence in the present Conservation and Access Officer of the CSCC.
Re:
This meeting was convened purely for the purpose of passing a resolution regarding Fairy Cave Quarry, thus forming a CSCC policy on the subject.
After much discussion it was decided to defer the details of this resolution to the CSCC AGM, so that the subject may be discussed in conjunction with the SSSI problem. An amendment to the resolution was passed enabling this action. I hope to establish the minutes of this meeting in a future BB.
I hope the following material will help to put members in the picture regarding these important changes. In my own opinion I think we, as the caving community, have made rather a "pigs ear" of the situation, and may very well have to live with the consequences for some time.
Bob Cork.
15/5/86
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This is a letter from the National Caving Association to the Mendip Councillors.
Middx.
24 March 1986
At the forthcoming meeting of the Planning Committee you will be called upon to determine two applications by Hobbs Holdings Ltd in respect of their development of Fairy Cave Quarry near Stoke St Michael as a show cave and leisure complex. The NCA is extremely concerned that the full importance of decisions about to be made concerning this matter may not be realised and the enclosed comments are offered for your consideration. The Planning Department recognises the relevance of the points raised in this document and has asked if a copy is to be supplied to Committee members, as they are only able to give a brief summary in their own report.
The importance of these cave, and the threat to them cannot be stressed strongly enough. Commercial development as proposed by Hobbs Holdings Ltd, and being actively promoted by their consultants Dr W I Stanton and Mr R Whitaker, may lead to their destruction. This must be avoided and we would please ask that you read our detailed comments carefully before coming to any conclusions. The additional points below are also offered for your consideration.
1. These caves are amongst the very few most important in the country, and certainly the most vulnerable. It is imperative that any possibility of damage is avoided. Their destruction would be a loss to the nation that will never be replaced.
2. Every existing show cave in the country has been extensively damaged through commercial exploitation and bed management. It is probable that these caves will suffer the same fate, if not in the short then certainly in the long term, there being inherent conflicts between commercial interests and conservation which are almost impossible to avoid.
3. If development of these caves were to occur the only means by which their future might possibly be secured would be strictly imposing all the conditions defined in our detailed comments.
4. The Cerberus Spelaeological Society has been
responsible for the management of the caves since their discovery. This special knowledge and experience has
developed a unique awareness of the problems that exist in protecting them. Neither the Society or the NCA have been
consulted by either
5. As part of a publicity campaign Dr Stanton appeared on Points West (BBC TV 13 March) and stated that the development would necessarily be on a low key small scale involving minimum alterations to the caves and a maximum party size of ten etc. However the outline plan is for a very large scale operation which Jeremy Hobbs has confirmed 'further plans for the future would put the operation on a much larger scale with up to 250,000 visitors a year (Shepton Mallet Journal 6 March).
6. An initial small scale development is dangerous
in itself without very strict controls that guarantee protection for the
cave. Although these may well prove
impossible to implement or enforce in any case. The larger scale development proposed future would prove
disastrous. In
7. When the applications were submitted Jeremy Hobbs stated in a Radio Bristol interview that the Nature Conservancy Council had no objections to the scheme. He has further stated 'we are doing this in conjunction with the Nature Conservancy' (Evening Chronicle 13 March). Both these statements are untrue, no discussions having been held or agreements reached.
The caves of Fairy Cave Quarry are not suitable for large scale commercial development. If development on any scale were to be permitted it is essential that no work what-so-ever is carried out without every minute detail, from any modifications to the caves through to future management, being agreed and known to be enforceable before hand.
It is hoped that after reading the enclosed material you will have a better appreciation and understanding of the threat that now faces a very unique and important part of our National Heritage, and that you now share our concern that these caves are preserved for future Generations.
If you require any further information or would like to discuss this matter in detail please contact the Associations Conservation Officer, Graham Price, 31 Waterford Park, Radstock, Bath, Avon, BA3 3TS, Tel: Radstock 3U251 (home). Trowbridge 68115 (work). We would be pleased to answer any questions you may have or attend a meeting if this would be useful.
Yours sincerely.
M C Day, Chairman
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NATIONAL CAVING
ASSOCIATION
SHOW CAVE
DEVELOPMENT AT FAIRY CAVE QUARRY - COMMENTS
Introduction
This report forms the basis of comments which the National
Caving Association, jointly with the Council of Southern Caving Clubs and the
Cerberus Spelaeological Society, wish to bring to the attention of the Mendip
District Council Planning Department and Planning Committee with respect to the
proposed development of Fairy Cave Quarry as a
Perspectives
The two caves around which the original proposals were
centered,
The elements and the ravages of time have over the same period changed the surface features of the surrounding area beyond recognition, many times over. In recent times man has accelerated the process. Protected as they are the caves have survived intact to the present day to find themselves, for but a very brief moment in their long history, under the responsibility (by virtue of ownership) of a Quarry company. A company who, in their exploitation of the surrounding rock, have breached the passages thus revealing their existence. The present owners have since relayed a large central portion of the system which was the equal of any which remains.
We do not know why caves of such beauty are to be found in an otherwise unlikely area, but we do know that the caves of Fairy Cave Quarry are unique, a product of the particular natural circumstances prevailing in a small geographical area over past millennia. Small as they are, there are no caves anywhere else quite like those found at the quarry. Formations of the type to be seen there are rare enough anywhere, but are becoming all the more rare as the passage of countless visitors to the sites which are accessible takes its inevitable toll.
So the decisions with which we are concerned here are peculiarly different to those more commonly referred to planning authorities. In the normal run of events, decisions, good or bad, have only a relatively short term effect-man-lade features will eventually be superseded by more appropriate ones in time, or the natural environment, if allowed, will revert back to its local characteristic form, obliterating much of man's influence in the process. The quality of life we seek to preserve rarely extends beyond our own lifetime. The beauty to be found in caves is however, in no sense 'reversible' and can in no wav be superseded, but is in every sense immensely fragile. That which is lost is lost forever and cannot be replaced. Inappropriate exploitation of any kind simply serves to reduce the stock which exists, denying it forever to future generations.
There is then another sense in which this issue is different. Modern thinking generally insists that the public has the right to enjoy the natural resources available to it. "Does beauty exist if it cannot be seen?" is often put forward as an argument, especially regarding caves. The answer is in this case that it certainly does, having existed for far longer than man has ever been around to do the asking. Whatever the current law of the land the public has no moral right of access, if in exercising that right the beauty is denied for ever to those which follow us.
Current thinking has only recently begun to recognise these problems, and the site is to scheduled as an SSSI (Site of Special Scientific Interest) by the Nature Conservancy Council in recognition of its importance. However, there are no formal guidelines as yet, and until these are clearly defined, and "seen to be enforceable, responsibility falls squarely on those who find themselves in a position to Influence events.
Potential
Potentially, the idea of a snow cave is not undesirable. One can envisage, with a little imagination, a development where ten passages were virtually hermetically sealed off with constant humidity and controlled lighting and viewed through glass ports at a safe distance, rather like one would visit an aquarium. Outside, one could find other attractions, experience other caves - perhaps less vulnerable - and study educational displays. There would be no damage done during the construction phase, and no later deterioration, even if the site were to eventually fall into disuse. Such a development would be an example to the rest of the world and a continually popular attraction. But the amount of effort and finance required on behalf of the developers hardly bears thinking about. The response to any proposals must be to ask what will happen in practice, and what risks does this present for the conservation of the caves.
Practical Risks
Now that we know the caves exist and are available to be exploitation, the practical dangers threatening them arise in four phases:
(i) Now, if there is no development
(ii) During Construction
(iii) During long term occupation
(iv) In the future, if the operation is abandoned.
(i) Now
For all statutory purposes the Quarry is currently regarded as an industrial site with same interest, but with little statutory influence from local and national conservation bodies. The quarry is worked out to its current limits so a change of use is almost certain, and a future change of ownership quite possible. Any future use could conceivably totally disregard the existence of the caves, and threaten the existence of the formations and deposits they contain. How industrial activity to date has affected the caves has been well documented.
The caves will remain accessible to determined visitors unless a large mass of quarry face is brought down over the entrances, although visits in recent years have all but stopped at the request of the owners. Some deterioration was apparent even over the periods when access was allowed but restricted and tightly controlled.
In excavating a large central part of the system quarrying activity made important changes to the local hydrology. Interception of the route taken by flood water regularly results in flooding of the western corner of the Quarry. The same water backs up through the decorated parts of the system leaving behind extensive deposits of mud and silt as levels fall. These events nave necessitated major clean-up operations undertaken by the Cerberus Spelleologlcal Society), but the caves remain vulnerable to such disasters. A long-term solution to these problems must be found in any case.
(ii) Construction
The construction phase is potentially the most
damaging. It is difficult for even an
experienced, caring caver to visit Withyhill without causing damage.
It is essential for any developer to give clear and unequivocal answers as to who will be carrying out the work within the passages, how damage is to be avoided, and detail what alterations are to be made, almost on an inch-by-inch basis. Prior agreement in these respects is essential, and consideration must be given as to now the work will be supervised and monitored. Sites away from the public view should be given the same importance in this respect as those being developed. The damage that can be caused by even a careful and considerate worker with a large sledgehammer, but with little experience or understanding of the strange environment in which he now finds himself, can only be imagined.
Any suggestion of 'sacrificing' parts of the cave in order to develop others considered more worthy of public interest may make commercial sense, but is tantamount to legalized vandalism. The end result is simply a loss to the cave which can never be made up, neither numerically nor in terms of quality.
The initial construction phase, especially measures to protect the formations from the public, needs to be related of course to the number of visitors which it is deemed can adequately catered for. Future modifications for example to cater for larger numbers would represent a major departure from the initial proposals, and so there needs to be a clear definition of what constitutes a departure and how such changes are to be reviewed, if the initial efforts lade to offer protection are not to be invalidated.
It will be difficult to guarantee that the protective measures which are built into the construction phase, such as screens around formations, will actually be effective over a long period. Equally it is difficult to consider that any failure rate in terms of loss at formations is acceptable in view of the relatively short time it would take to denude the passages of all features of interest, given that countless generations will follow us.
Simply opening up a cave to increased air circulation can lead to rapid drying out of the formations, possibly for the whole length of the cave and others connected with it. There was ample experience of this as the quarry slowly excavated away the central part of the system. It is clear beyond doubt that the continuing aesthetic appeal of cave formations depends entirely upon humidity levels and surface water films being maintained. The installation of permanent lighting has a similar effect around each light, and causes severe and irreversible discolouration through algal growth. Carefully designed doorways and the use of individual hand lamps will provide the only solution.
Developing the surface site has potential risks. A large quantity of water can at times enter
the cave system at Withybrook Slocker to the south, and leads via an unknown
route beneath the quarry floor to the spring at St. Dunstans Well to the north. The main caves are dry 'abandoned' streamways
but are connected via inaccessible conduits to the watercourse below. Quarrying activity has already given rise to
near disasters mentioned previously as the polluted waters have backed up into
the dry systems.
Pollution, and thereby damage to the delicately balanced ecosystem of the caves, is a major problem. Clearly development of the site will involve run-off from car parks and other levelled areas. It is essential that any areas used for parking of vehicles are made impervious, and the flow generated properly disposed of through regularly maintained oil and petrol interceptors. The problem of sewage disposal must also be considered, discharge of any effluent likely to find its way into the cave system, either directly or through seepage, being unacceptable. Development proposals to meet these problems must be guaranteed to be effective.
Within the quarry there are currently fourteen cave entrances, each leading to passage of varying length and interest. All the caves have been under the management of the Cerberus Spelaeologlcal Society since their discovery, and leaders have been provided as requested to accommodate visiting cavers. This management and control has enabled continued use of this important recreational facility in sympathy with the need for conservation. How the proposals will affect access to all the caves needs to be considered, and a management plan agreed. A number of the caves have over the years become colonised by bats which are protected by law and how they may be affected needs to be clearly detailed.
(iii) Operation
Given that the public has the chance to get near to
vulnerable formations the risk will always be present that someone might get
round what protection is available, and inadvertently or otherwise cause
damage. The risk increases directly with
the number of visitors, and hence with time. The direct result is a slow deterioration which can increase
dramatically if the operators are under strong commercial pressure to pack more
people in. The pressure becomes worse as
presently established
The public encouraged to visit the caves will not only include those responsible, fascinated and perhaps educated, out also school children, disinterested unprincipled youths, souvenir hunters, the naturally inquisitive, the naturally disaster prone, as well as out-and-out vandals. There is not the natural screening which a caving trip into an unmodified cave usually affords. There are also no penalties for those who deliberately cause damage. Hopefully a show cave complex would have an educational element but which must be of limited use in developing a sense of responsibility in a tourist making a once-only visit to something with which he is, after all, totally unfamiliar.
It will be difficult to guarantee that guides will be able to educate, instil responsibility, and supervise their parties adequately. Theirs will be the ultimate responsibility for protection of the cave, but their individual interest and the numbers they have to control are critical. Many cases can be cited from established show caves where the current level of supervision has been found to be inadequate.
These particular caves have an additional problems in that their main interest will be visual and because of their vulnerability. Visitors must necessarily be kept at some distance. As an all-round experience of caving the public appetite may not be entirely satisfied, which may actually encourage behaviour detrimental to the caves such as reaching out and touching the formations, or leaving the defined path when the opportunity arises.
Present show cave developments do not give any encouragement whatever that these problems can be faced in a way that conservation of the resources demands. Failure of any one aspect could conceivably result in the eventual loss of the cave in any significant form. Above all guaranteeÂ’s need to be given that the solutions to these any problem will work, and are based on principles of conservation beyond those needed to simply maintain the attraction. The answers should be viewed against the alternative of waiting until such time when man's resources and abilities are equal to his responsibilities.
(iv) Abandonment
It is most likely that development and continuing operation will be dependant upon financial viability. The risk most likely to be realised is that at some stage during construction, or after a period of operation, the project will be abandoned for lack of funds. The very first job once the project goes ahead will be to open up the sites for easy access. There can be no greater threat to the caves, short of quarrying them away, than to vacate the site leaving unrestricted access. Examples can be cited where this has occurred. Two safeguards are required, first to ensure that there is adequate finance from the start to carry the scheme through to conclusion, and secondly to ensure that provision is made to leave the site if necessary in a suitable state for continued preservation, for example, by handling it over to an appropriate organisation.
Summary and Conclusion
It should be obvious then that the implications of developing this site are not to be taken lightly. There are many dangers and it is essential that any proposals are considered carefully and numerous safeguards built-in. Any decisions taken should not be taken in haste, and in summary the following points are made, and offered as the only basis upon which development can be allowed to proceed.
1. Any alterations to the caves including enlargement of passageways or creation of tunnels involving the removal of formations, boulders, sediments, or affecting any natural features, must be agreed in detail prior to any work commencing. Adequate independent supervision must be provided for the works in progress, and strict adherence to the agreed proposals guaranteed.
2. Large artificial entrances should be fitted with sealed solid gates, kept closed at all times and designed to maintain as near as possible natural air flows through the cave.
3. Artificial lighting should not be installed, but visitors issued with individual electric lamps.
4. Adequate protection must be given to all formations and other features to prevent damage, even to the point of constructing a cage through vulnerable sections, or by completely encasing formations elsewhere. No artificial or foreign items should be installed in the cave ether than those necessary for its protection.
5. A guide-to-visitor ratio for any given cave must be established and strictly adhered to, along with the maximum numbers underground at any given time.
6. Guides should be properly educated in the development of caves and cave features and have a great respect for this unique and fragile environment. Theirs is the ultimate responsibility for monitoring the cave and supervising visitors.
7. Any possibility of pollution must be prevented. Car parking areas should be made impervious, and run-off discharged through regularly maintained oil and petrol interceptors. Sewage, and any other effluents, must be properly disposed of; none should be allowed to enter the cave system! either directly or through seepage.
8. Accessibility to all caves in the Quarry area should be maintained. Some are colonised by bats and continued usage must be guaranteed.
9. A management plan for all caves in the quarry, either developed or not, should be agreed, and hopefully include a provision for continued access by cavers for exploration and study.
10. Independent monitoring of the development in progress, and during future operation, should be provided.
Perhaps the hardest consideration is that given that the right questions have been asked, satisfactory answers have been received and objectively assessed and the go ahead given, can the project be monitored? Is it possible to call a halt if the caves appear to be endangered? How can this be determined? Can penalties be imposed if transgressions occur, and is it possible to make recompense, when mistakes last for ever? Who in the end will take ultimate responsibility?
There are no easy answers to these questions, but they must be asked and satisfactory replies received, if this unique part of our natural heritage is not to be spoilt and lost for ever.
National Caving Association
Radstock
February 1980
COUNCIL OF SOUTHERN CAVE CLUBS
During the last two months landowners and farmers in the
Priddy area have been contacted by the Nature Conservancy Council informing
them that sections of their land would be scheduled as an SSSI in the near
future. Previously some owners in the
The original revision of cave SSSI's contributed to by the CSCC during 1978-1980 was on the understanding that the conditions of the SSSI would be the same as that which had applied to many cave sites here on Mendip and elsewhere in the country since 1957. It was a great shock to both landowners and cavers, to say the very least, as the relationship between both has been the very basis of caving activity here on Mendip. For general information a catalogue of events is given below to outline the situation that is with us today.
In 1974 the NCC decided that a Geological Conservation Review should be carried out and as part of this in 1977 the NCA and BCRA were jointly contracted to prepare a list of cave sites. A working party was set up with Dave Judson as convenor to carry out the three year contract which was complete in 1980. The list of Mendip sites to be scheduled was drawn up and approved by the CSCC in 1978 and the necessary write-ups submitted to the NCA/BCRA Working Party in 1980. When all the Regions had completed their work a national list was drawn up and out of those put forward by the CSCC seven out of eight were accepted. Tony Waltham was then contracted by the NCC to write the final report and a list of 48 sites (many encompassing a number of individual caves) were included that could be justified on a national basis.
The NCC was to schedule these sites as soon as possible; however the Wildlife and Countryside Act came into effect toward the end of 1981 complicating the matter. This required all sites, existing and proposed, to be notified in accordance with the new procedures set out therein. Overall this involved an extraordinary amount of work and although the Mendip sites were nearly scheduled in 1983/84, as mentioned at the May 84 AGM, this came to nothing. The current situation has arisen because the sites are now being notified. Through informal contact with the NCC it was discovered that this was being done at the end of January and as a matter of course this was mentioned at the CSCC meeting on the 15 February. At this meeting the list of damaging activities applicable to cave sites, as supplied by the NCC, was also read out.
For all SSSI's there is a standard master list of 28 damaging activities and when a site is scheduled specific ones from this are notified as those being likely to damage that sites particular special interest. The list was drawn up by a NCC Special Committee and they are under a statutory obligation to specify any activity that may have an effect on any particular site, and they try to be as comprehensive as possible since unless an activity has been notified they can do nothing about it later. The NCC have stated that the activities to be notified for all cave sites are similar, and they confirmed at the landowners meeting that no more than 7 would apply to the Priddy caves. In some cases confusion may arise due to extra activities being specified for certain sites. This is because some are also scheduled for ether reasons in addition to the cave interest e.g. flora, fauna etc, and in these instances they expand the list accordingly. This is an obvious area of confusion about which we can do nothing, although landowners are told why the site is being scheduled.
To quote from an NCC letter to the landowners of cave sites "As most of the interest is underground, it is unlikely that notification as an SSSI would conflict with present farming practice". The procedure for scheduling is that the list of damaging activities is notified, but prior to this as a PR exercise a visiting officer explains that exemption will be given for any specific things that the landowner needs or wishes to do as part of his livelihood, and to enable this he has to provide a list to the NCC. The NCC point out that there is no other way that this could be done since if a list of specific damaging activities had to be drawn up for each site this would be incredibly long, and however comprehensive it appeared to be it is certain that something would be missed.
Regarding the matter that directly concerns us the NCC have stressed that no landowner will be affected unless he does, or intends to do something, that might specifically damage the cave and even then they have stated they would try to solve any problems amicably, or in the case of certain activities offer financial assistance toward solving them, rather than use their statutory powers. With respect to this the NCC have expressed an interest in solving the pollution problems in Swildons and preliminary discussions have been held with Robin Main and it seems likely that it may be possible to stop this by mutual agreement and with the assistance of grant aid. This would not be possible if the cave had not been an SSSI. The NCC have also stated that if they did prevent a landowner from carrying out a specific activity, compensation would be paid so no financial loss would be involved.
Comments have been made that it is remiss of the CSCC not to have been aware of the potential problems and been able to pave the way prior to the event. This would have required the Council to have had prior knowledge of when notification was to take place and the statutory procedures involved in scheduling, which we did not. In any case it may well have been impossible since the NCC avoid landowners knowing of the scheduling until they are formally notified. This is due to past problems where the knowledge has jeopardised the site being scheduled or resulted in damage being done prior to notification. It would be nice to argue that this would not apply to cave sites however this is not possible since, as already mentioned, many are also scheduled for other reasons.
The Council fully accepts that this whole business is causing a major problem here on Mendip and has attacked the very foundation of the relationship between landowners and the caving community. The effect has been at the time of writing for Hunters Hole and a dig site near Eastwater Cavern to be closed. The CSCC is currently making contact with several outside bodies including the NCC for advice and clarification. Further details will be circulated to clubs when any relevant information is available.
Dave Irwin, Chairman
Graham Price, C&A Officer 30.4.86.
NATURE CONSERVANCY COUNCIL
The wild plants and animals of
The SSSI system comprises biological and geological sites selected by the Nature Conservancy Council after scientific survey and evaluation. These include the best examples of particular habitats, e.g. woodlands, heathlands or meadows, and or the localities of rare or endangered species or important concentrations of animals or plants. Many geological sites are the standard reference locality for their type of rock or land formation.
The Nature Conservancy Council have a statutory duty to
notify an SSSI to every owner and occupier, to the local planning authority, to
the appropriate Secretary of State and, in
In
Local planning authorities have a statutory requirement to consult with the NCC before granting permission for a development .application on an SSSI. Panning authorities are required to take into account any representations the NCC may make in relation to the development application, but the decision to give or refuse planning emission rests with the planning authority.
Notification of land as an SSSI does not give the NCC or anyone else any right of access other than along existing rights of way.
The NCC may enter into management agreements with owners or occupiers of SSSIÂ’s in order to safeguard or enhance the special interest of the site.
An agreement may be provided for payment to the owner or occupier for refraining from carrying out one or more damaging operations or for work aimed at safeguarding or improving the special interest of the site.
NCC's substantive management agreements will normally be registered as a land charge.
SSSIÂ’s will normally qualify for conditional exemption from Capital Transfer Tax. In addition beneficial tax arrangements can apply if a maintenance fund is established for the benefit of such land. A tax concession is also available if SSSI land is accepted by the Government in lieu of Capital Transfer Tax or if SSSI land is sold to the NCC or any other approved body.
The NCC may give financial assistance to any person to do
anything which, in the NCC's opinion, fosters the understanding of or is
conducive to nature conservation. Priority is usually given to SSSIÂ’s. Financial assistance may, in certain circumstances, be given towards the
purchase of
In some cases the NCC may be able to purchase or lease SSSI land, or offer to introduce the owner to a (non-governmental) conservation body which may be interested in purchase or lease of the land.
The NCC's Regional or local office will be pleased to provide further information and advice concerning SSSIs. The address can be found in your local telephone directory.
a) Statutes:
The Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981
The Wildlife and Countryside (Amendment) A, 1985
The Wildlife and Countryside (Service of Notices) Act 1985
The Capital Transfer Tax Act 1984
The Countryside Act 1968
The National Parks and Access to the Countryside Act 1949
The Town and Country Planning General Development Order 1977
The Town and Country Planning
(General Development) (
b) Government circular:
"Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981 Financial Guidelines foJ: Management Agreements" '
Department of Environment Circular 4/83 Welsh Office Circular 6/83
c) Explanatory memorandum:
"Capital Taxation and the National Heritage" (published by The Treasury. July 1983)
The Nature Conservancy Council is the government body which
promotes nature conservation in
This is one of a range of publications produced by
Interpretive Services Branch. A
catalogue listing current titles is available from Dept. SI, Nature Conservancy
Council, Northminster House,
PRIDDY POOLS AND
OPERATIONS LIKELY TO DAMAGE THE FEATURES OF SPECIAL
INTEREST
Standard Ref No• Type of Operation
1 Cultivation, including ploughing,
rotovating, harrowing and reseeding.
2 Grazing.
3 Stock feeding.
4 Mowing or other methods of cutting
vegetation.
5 Application of manure, fertilisers and
lime.
6 Application of pesticides, including
herbicides (weed killers).
7 Dumping, spreading or discharge of any
materials.
8 Burning.
9 The release into the site of any wild,
feral or domestic animal*, plant or seed.
10 The killing or removal of any wild
animal*, including pest control.
11 The destruction, displacement, removal
or cutting of any plant or plant remains, including tree, shrub, herb, hedge,
dead or decaying wood, moss, lichen, fungus, leaf-mould, turf.
12 Tree and woodland management including
afforestation, planting, clear and selective felling, thinning, coppicing,
modification of the stand or under wood, changes in species composition,
cessation of management.
13a Drainage (including moor-gripping and the
use of mole, tile, tunnel or other artificial drains).
13b Modification of the structure of water
courses (e.g. streams, springs, ditches, dykes, drains), including their banks
and beds, as by re-alignment, re-grading and dredging.
13c Management of aquatic and bank vegetation
for drainage purposes.
14 The changing of water levels and tables
and water utilisation (including irrigation, storage and abstraction from
existing water bodies and through boreholes).
15 Infilling of ditches, dykes, drains,
ponds, pools or marshes. Freshwater fishery production and management including
sporting fishing and angling.
16 Extraction of minerals, including peat,
sand and gravel, topsoil, sub-soil, chalk, lime and spoil.
20 Construction, removal or destruction of
roads, tracks, walls, fences, hardstands, banks, ditches or other earthworks,
or the laying, maintenance or removal of pipelines and cables, above or below
ground.
21 Storage of materials.
22 Erection of permanent or temporary
structures, or the undertaking of engineering works, including drilling.
23 Modification of natural or man-made
features (including cave entrances), clearance of boulders, large stones, loose
rock or scree and battering, buttressing or grading cuttings, infilling of
pits.
26 Use of vehicles or craft likely to
damage or disturb features of interest.
27 Recreational or other activities likely
to damage features of interest.
28 Game and waterfowl management and hunting practices.
* "animal" includes any mammal, reptile, amphibian, bird, fish or invertebrate.
COUNCIL OF SOUTHERN
CAVE CLUBS
Constituent member of NCA
please reply to:•
Radstock
Dr Keith Duff
Head of Geology and Physiography
Nature Conservancy Council
Northminster House
Peterbrough
Cambs
PE1 1UA
7 May 1986
Dear Keith,
Re-scheduling of Cave SSSI's on Mendip
Further to our recent discussions I am writing to confirm some of the points raised to which a reply would be appreciated.
The current re-scheduling of the cave SSSI's on Mendip, specifically those in the Priddy area, is causing major problems with a number of landowners greatly concerned about the effect it will have on them and their livelihood. The blame for the scheduling is being placed clearly with the caving community in general and myself in particular as Conservation and Access Officer of the Council, and as a result we are receiving the brunt of the criticism and suffering from the effects. To date this has involved the closure of two caves and refusal of permission to continue a surface dig. This situation is totally unacceptable and indications are that, with feelings running at such a high level, this may only be the beginning of the problems.
The relationship between cavers and landowners on Mendip has been extremely good in the past but has now been put in serious jeopardy. Although we obviously wish to see caves offered the maximum possible protection we believe this must not be to the detriment of the landowners. From their point of view the major concern is with respect to the very long list of damaging activities with which they have been presented. Although we understand that many of these will be consented and that perhaps only in the region of six will apply, we believe that these can, and should, be further minimised in many instances by restricting their application to very limited areas, specifically in the immediate vicinity of cave entrances. It is essential that any interference with landowners is reduced to the absolute minimum.
In 1978 when the BCRA and NCA undertook the SSSI Revision on "behalf of the NCC one of the guidelines was that whole catchment areas were included where appropriate. Consequently on Mendip the whole of the Wookey Hole catchment was proposed as a single site, this including a number of individual caves.
As a single unit there is no doubt that the catchment is nationally important and of special scientific interest, however there are a number of individual caves within the area that cannot be considered scientifically important in their own right, although these were automatically included by default.
Since the NCC has been notifying the Priddy caves it has become apparent that the original criteria have changed in that individual caves are being scheduled, not areas. Although it may seem logical to take all caves within the original area and notify each, this has presented a problem in that a number of the smaller ones, specifically Hunters Hole, North Hill Swallet, Sludge Pit and Nine Barrows, cannot be justified as being of national importance and should therefore not be scheduled as SSSI's. In view of the changed circumstances we would therefore suggest that these caves are removed from the Revision.
Another matter of great concern to the Council is the effect of a site being scheduled on normal caver activities. It is our understanding that it is not the intention of the NCC to try and restrict these in any way and that responsibility for looking after caves underground, whether the activities involve purely sporting caving, digging, or scientific research, will be the direct responsibility of the caving community. Your confirmation that this is the case would be appreciated.
There is however another extremely important aspect of caver activities that may have been overlooked, this being with respect to those on the surface. Caving in the broadest sense not only includes underground activity but also a number of associated things on the surface. If we first consider existing caves often maintenance including construction works or modification of the entrance may be required. This could take the form of gating, building blockhouses, installing shafts etc., all of which might be considered a damaging activity within the terms of the scheduling.
The other problem is associated with surface digs which may or may not be associated with the cave in question, and could be located anywhere within the scheduled area. A major pastime of cavers is digging to find new caves and it would appear that these activities may be severely affected.
Obviously it would be unreasonable to expect a landowner to obtain permission from the NCC should cavers wish to start a dig on their land, and if this were the case it is likely that permission would be refused. The Council considers this situation to be unacceptable and would appreciate confirmation as to how you intend to avoid these problems occurring.
We trust that you fully appreciate the difficulties with which we are now faced and will be able to take all possible steps to aid in returning the situation on Mendip to normal.
Yours sincerely,
Graham Price
Conservation and Access Officer
NATURE
CONSERVANCY
COUNCIL
Northminster House,
Mr G Price
Conservation and Access Officer
Council of Southern Caving Clubs
Radstock
14 May 1986
Dear Graham
RENOTIFICATION OF CAVE SSSIÂ’s ON MENDIP
Thank you for your letter of 7 May. As you know, I have been heavily involved in dealing with the unfortunate difficulties which have arisen over the renotification of the Priddy SSSI, and I am confident that the problems will be resolved in the near future.
Let me assure you, at the outset, that NCC has no intention of interfering with cave access in any way. Our aim is to safeguard cave sites of national scientific importance so that they can be used for research and education. In this we are heavily dependent upon advice and information provided to us by cavers, since we have no in-house practical caving expertise. We rely upon the caving community for advice on selecting SSSIÂ’s (viz the BCRA/NCA consortium of 1978-1981) and for advice on their subsequent safeguard (viz the extensive consultation we undertook prior to responding to the recent Fairy Cave Quarry planning application). Our view is that we should make full use of the provisions of the Wildlife and Countryside Act, and the 1977 Town and Country Planning General Development Order, to protect cave SSSI in the ways that are recommended to us by cavers; we do not intend to take unilateral action of any kind. The Wildlife and Countryside Act provides considerably enhanced mechanisms for safeguarding SSSI, and we believe that these should be used to best effect in protecting cave SSSl, but only in the ways that cavers feel to be necessary in site specific cases. In particular, I must stress that all existing access arrangements for caves will be supported by NCC; we have no wish or intention to interfere with any of them. I am happy to confirm that we see the caving community taking responsibility for the underground safeguard of caves, and applaud the NCA "Adopt-a-Cave scheme."
I am concerned that renotification of cave SSSI should have resulted in "blame" being directed in any direction. The whole basis of the Wildlife and Countryside Act mechanisms is that landowners and occupiers should not be disadvantaged financially as a result of the provisions of the Act being applied. Compensation for, loss of profits is available in the event of NCC not being able to agree to the undertaking of a listed Potentially Damaging Operation (PDO). Having said that, the number of PDO which apply to cave sites is very small, and their application is not intended to cause any restriction of normal caving activities.
"Consent letters" are issued by NCC to release owners and occupiers from many of the detailed "restrictions" which occur in the PDO lists, and these specifically include a consent to allow the unhindered continuation of normal caving activities, in which we include cave exploration, cave digging underground (including the modification of cave entrances) gating of caves, building blockhouses, collecting of samples for research, digging on the surface to seek new caves (and the works associated with such activities).
Most of the difficulties and misunderstandings at Priddy
have arisen because the
PDO 7: This applies only to the cave
entrance area. Normal caving activities
within the cave or cave entrance, and which could involve dumping, spreading or
discharge of any materials, will be consented.
PDO 12a: In Mendip, consent would normally be
granted for tree-planting.
PDO 13a: In Mendip. consent would normally be
granted for drainage modifications, but this would need to be site specific, in
consultation with caving organisations.
PDO 15: This PDO will remain.
PDO 21: This applies only to cave entrances
and areas immediately adjacent. Normal
caving activities which involve any of these operations will be consented.
PDO 22:
PDO 23: As for 21.
PDO 24:
PDO 27: Consent will be given for this PDO; no existing access arrangements will be affected.
I note your uncertainty about the individual scientific merits of Hunters Hole, North Hill Swallet, Nine Barrows Swallet and Sludge Pit Hole. I am seeking the views of the convenors of the BCRA/NCA consortium responsible for selection of cave GCR sites (Tony Waltham and Dave Judson), as well as Willie Stanton (in his guise as author of the write-ups for Priddy). I cannot pre-judge their advice, but can assure you that all cave SSSI notified by NCC must be justifiable, and that we will reconsider the status of these sites if the advice we receive suggests that we should. In the meantime, amended consent letters are currently being prepared for these sites, along the lines specified above. I will ensure that the CSCC is kept informed.
I hope that this letter sets your mind at rest with regard to NCC's intentions regarding cave conservation. I am aware that a good deal of rumour and mischievous misinformation concerning our "intentions" is circulating, and can assure you that these are unfounded. I must repeat my earlier statement that NCC seeks to safeguard caves for cavers, and that all our actions are taken after consultation with representatives of the caving organisations; we have no interest in 'empire-building' and do not act unilaterally.
I trust that the sound relationships that have been established between NCC and the caving organisations, including the CSCC, will be maintained, and hope that we will continue to liaise closely with CSCC over cave conservation in the Mendips.
Dr K L Duff
Head of Geology & Physiography Section
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Open letter to all members of Council of Southern Clubs Member Clubs.
30th April 1986
Dear Cavers,
You may remember that up to eighteen months ago I acted on your behalf as Secretary of the CSCC but unfortunately, due to business commitments, had to relinquish the post. I have now been asked by a number of cavers to stand for the post of Conservation and Access Officer and, for the reasons set out below, I have agreed.
You may know that there has been a review of SSSI's (Sites of Special Scientific Interest) going on for some time. The purpose of this designation is to protect any site, not only caves, considered to be of special interest. A list of sites was approved by the CSCC in 1979/80 but due to the appearance of the Wildlife and Countryside Act it is only now that the designations are being made. What alarms me and a great many others is that the scope of the sites and the restrictions placed thereon has increased greatly from that approved some six years ago. Not only that but it appears that these designations will have a detrimental effect on access rather than as intended.
Landowners received on 21st April 1986 details of the land which is now designated and the restrictions placed thereon. The designations cover all land within specific boundaries i.e. whole fields not just the cave entrance and the restrictions placed thereon are such as to preclude the landowners continued use of the land without the agreement of the Nature Conservancy Council. Naturally landowners blame cavers for this intrusion into their right to use the land as they wish and I am receiving an increasing number of reports of access being restricted, permission to dig being withheld, etc.
Cavers have for many years had good relations with Mendip landowners and access has always been maintained without the need for the sort of situation that prevails in other parts of the country. Overnight these carefully maintained relations have been swept away.
Why is it therefore that the C & A Officer of the CSCC did not see fit to specifically inform the CSCC of the potential problems when they first became apparent. I believe that he has, in fact been involved with these designations to such a point that he has failed to see the problems that would be created.
We must now do our best to redress the situation by pursuing a policy sympathetic to the landowners who give us access. To continue on our present route can only be to the detriment of Mendip Caving. To this end, the present C & A Officer must step down as his credibility with the landowners involved is in serious doubt.
Likewise the situation with Fairy Cave Quarry. Whilst I cannot comment on this as a whole as the CSCC can have no policy on a situation which is - being handled by an individual club I am concerned that the NCA has, to all intents and purposes, interfered in CSCC affairs without its agreement. The case in point being that the NCA Chairman has written to all Local Councillors seeking their support against the granting of planning permission to Hobbs Quarries for their proposals for Fairy Cave Quarry of which you should remember the formation of a show cave forms only one part. I do not understand how, within the terms of the NCA Constitution, they can have a policy which is, in effect, a direct contradiction to the CSCC Constitution and, ultimately, sets cavers in general as well as the CSCC against a large commercial company to whom caving interests and access requirements count for nothing.
This is the situation as I and a large number of others see it. I believe that under the guise of a policy of. Conservation and Access we have been brought into direct confrontation over access with landowners, the results of which could have a dramatic effect on future Mendip Caving.
I look forward to your support at the AGM on 17th May 1986 in the interests of the future of Mendip Caving. This letter, which expresses my personal opinions, has been circulated at my own expense.
Yours sincerely, Alan Butcher
COUNCIL OF SOUTHERN CAVING CLUBS
This year has been relatively quiet until the last couple of months when all hell has been let loose, this centering around two things - the re-scheduling of the Mendip SSSI' s and the Fairy Cave Quarry business. These two items have resulted in considerable controversy with an extra-ordinary amount of criticism being levelled at me personally. I must say that I do not mind criticism when justified and will listen to and discuss anything with anyone who has an opinion to express. However with respect to these two matters there seems to be little reason behind the numerous totally false rumours that have been circulating, and I trust that once people become fully aware of the facts they will appreciate that I am not responsible for causing the problems but have put considerable effort into solving them.
The following items of business have been dealt with during the year:
1. SINGING RIVER MINE. The parcel of land containing the entrance is
now in the ownership of the adjacent householders and essentially forms an
extension to their garden. They are
quite happy about continued access but have asked that everyone stick to the
path when approaching the entrance and avoid their son's radio controlled car
racetrack where there has been some damage to bridges over this. The path is obvious but they are intending to
gravel it in the near future and rebuild the stile. They have also asked that the gate to the
field is kept closed and the entrance to the mine locked when underground. The access agreement with the previous owner
only enabled five keys to be available from the major clubs, however it has
been possible to renegotiate this and in future keys will be available to
anyone upon request. To simplify matters
the lock on the mine is now the same as the one on Cuckoo Cleeves and the one
key, available from myself or the
2. BROWNS FOLLY MINE. The land containing both entrances to the mine is now in the ownership of the Avon Wildlife Trust and initial negotiations for continued access by cavers were held with them early in the year. They required a similar arrangement as before in the form of a licence with the Company, although they would be responsible for gating. The Trusts intention was to have new gates on both entrances by last August but due to delays this has only recently been done. There are still a few problems with the new licence but these should be resolved soon. The new keys are currently available and will be distributed to the Company shareholding clubs soon. The new gates should be locked by mid May. Notices will be placed on the entrances detailing availability of keys.
3. LAMB LEER. Early in the year Somerset County Council sold the land containing the entrance to the tenant, Mr Burge of Beconsfield Farm. The licence with the Company was also transferred and Mr Burge stated he wished the same access arrangements to continue except that he would like all visitors to call on him first and a small goodwill fee would be payable. He also asked that no cars were parked in the quarry without specific permission having been given. Notices detailing the changes have been posted on site.
4. SLUDGE PIT. Unfortunately the cave has remained closed although it is hoped that it
may be reopened soon.
5. AXBRIDGE HILL. Comments were made at one meeting the Somerset Trust interfering with access to small mines and caves on Axbridge Hill. Further information was to be supplied in order that his could be followed up but this is still awaited.
6. FAIRY CAVE QUARRY. At the end of January
7. WATERWHEEL AND UPPER FLOOD SWALLETS. In February Willie Stanton gave up his dig at Waterwheel and handed the keys and responsibility for access over to Terry Mathews at the Charterhouse Centre who has since asked MCG to operate a leader system for the cave the same as for Upper Flood. Details of access arrangements for both caves can be found elsewhere. Terry Mathews notified the NCC of the existence of the cave so it could be included along with Upper Flood in the SSSI Revision. The NCC approached me for further information and a write up for Upper Flood provided by the MCG was sent along with brief details of Waterwheel, although the latter could not be justified as being of national importance.
8. SSSI REVISION. The rescheduling of the Mendip cave SSSI's by the NCC is causing major problems. Full details of the history and current situation are given separately. The Council is currently taking all possible steps to try and solve these problems by discussion with the NCC and other parties and will report any progress as made.
9. HANDBOOK. Although I had promised to have the revised handbook ready had Easter there have been a few delays. Much of the text is now entered on a work processor it is anticipated that it will be ready to print in the next month or two. If anyone can assist I could do with a cover design.
10. CAVE CONSERVATION YEAR. There was very little participation in this on Mendip although some clean-ups and tuping was carried out. An overall review of the Year was published in Descents NCA Column. The 'Protect Our Caves' leaflets recently became available and one is enclosed. If any clubs can distribute these to their members it would be appreciated. If this is possible please let me know how many copies are required.
During the year I have attended all meetings of the NCA, C & A Group in my capacity as C & A Officer and as NCA Conservation Officer. I have also represented the Council at NCA Executive meetings and at all meetings of the Grant Aid Working Party.
Overall the work involved with respect to Council business both on a local and national level has been considerable and I feel confident that I have made a useful contribution. I would like to continue as Conservation and Access Officer for the coming year if the Council so wishes and assure everyone that I will fulfil my duties to the best of my ability.
Graham Price
Conservation & Access Officer
By the time you receive this you will have already had time to read the letter of 30th April from 'Butch' campaigning against me for the post of Conservation and Access Officer of the Council and I trust that you will now allow me an opportunity to state my case and set the record straight. Unfortunately a number of cavers on Mendip are currently involved in a 'witch hunt' and they have decided that I am the witch, however I refuse to be the scapegoat they are looking for. The letter from 'Butch' is a typical example of the misinformation that is currently circulating and it is essential that this is stopped once and for all.
He says that the scope of the SSSI's and the restrictions
placed on them has greatly increased from that approved six years ago. This is complete rubbish. To start with the areas now being scheduled
are minimal compared with that proposed by the Council in 1978. If we take the Priddy caves which are causing
all the problems the original proposal was to have the whole Wookey catchment
as one site. To Quote from the proposed
list at the time "Whole of the Wookey Hole Catchment covering an area of ?
sq. km. Includes all major and some
minor feeder caves in the Priddy area between
A number of other people have also mentioned this problem about the sites being defined using field boundaries. This is not a new innovation as many would have you believe, and was in fact the method employed in defining practically all the sites already scheduled prior to 1978. The reasons for using field boundaries is that the sites also have to be registered with the Land Registry and they will not accept totally arbitrary lines drawn across the centre of plots but require fixed lines to be used as defined on an ordnance survey map. Cave entrances alone have never been covered, and all the original sites covered the full extent of the cave as known at the time of scheduling.
It cannot be denied that cavers are being blamed for the scheduling and to some extent this is a valid statement. However it must not be forgotten that when the CSCC participated in the Revision during 1978/80 it was policy at that time, as it had always been in the past, to give as many caves as possible SSSI status.
No one could possibly have known that the Wildlife and Countryside Act was to be passed and the effect that this would have. Unfortunately we are only now finding out albeit a bit late in the day. If we had been aware of these things it is certain that we would not have allowed the present situation to arise, however it has and now our efforts must be turned to getting us out of the mess. Every possible step is currently being taken in this respect.
Why did I not inform the CSCC of the potential problems when they first became apparent. The supposition here is that I knew of the problems before they existed. How this would have been possible I do not know unless Butch believes me to clairvoyant. I did find out at the end of January that scheduling had started and as a matter of course mentioned it at the CSCC meeting on the 15 February. It was only after this that anyone became aware that there were problems, and immediately upon finding out steps were taken to try and resolve them. This matter has been under constant discussion with the Councils Chairman, Dave Irwin, and others, and one of the first things to be done was to organise a meeting between the NCC and the landowners. If I had been directly involved with the scheduling as Butch suggests then it is probable that the current situation may never have arisen.
I fully agree that we must pursue a policy sympathetic to the landowners, although I have assumed that we have done this in the past and would continue to do it in the future, in any case. We are not taking any other route, as is suggested, nor intend to do so. It seems to me that a few people believe that if the blame can be placed on me and I can be disposed of, the problem will be a long way to being solved. I think this very unlikely. If my credibility with any landowners is in doubt then this can only be due to them being told that I am responsible for the problems they are now having, despite this being totally untrue. On the other hand I have very good relationships with bodies such as the NCC. And I am currently discussing the matter with them and making representations to try and solve the problems.
Regarding the Fairy Cave Quarry business Butch also seems to be confused here. He says the CSCC can have no policy with respect to this, however he is wrong because the CSCC does have a policy of sorts as he would know if he had attended the meeting on the 15 February. At that meeting Cerberus tabled very detailed comments on the planning applications which they wished to be submitted by the NCA on behalf of the CSCC and the club. This paper was accepted by the meeting and therefore, although some people consider by default, became CSCC policy. The NCA was therefore involved at the request of Cerberus and with the sanction of the CSCC. Butch might not agree with this but it is a fact. I would therefore assume that it is quite acceptable for the NCA to send the mentioned letter if it was considered necessary. It is impossible to see how this could be considered a direct contradiction to the CSCC Constitution.
The situation as outlined by Butch may be how he and some others see it, but this is entirely based on considerable misinformation, totally untrue rumours, and pub talk. I hope that the information currently being circulated by the Council will put a stop to all these rumours which are causing problems in themselves at a time when it is essential that we show a united front.
I have no intention of stepping down as Conservation and Access Officer of the Council. To do so would be to admit to being guilty of something which I am not, and in any case I feel an obligation and need to try and sort out the problems with which we are now faced. I feel certain that I can contribute much in this respect and hope that you will be able to support me at the AGM on the 17 May.
Graham Price
COUNCIL OF SOUTHERN CAVING CLUBS
The past year cannot be considered a happy one for the CSCC - in many ways it became worse as the year progressed. On the positive side however, the organisation has been revitalised by new faces in the various official positions and the minutes and communications as now being sent regularly to member clubs. It is vital to an organisation such as ours to ensure too, that Clubs regularly send delegates thus enabling the Council to state clearly the views of its members. If clubs do not undertake their responsibilities how can the Council reflect the views of the "grass-roots"?
REVIEW OF THE FEDERAL STRUCTURE OF HCA AND CSCC
The thorny problem of the merger between BCRA and NCA has reared its head yet again and no doubt will do so again in the near future. The Officers have decided to prepare a discussion document proposing methods of improving the efficiency of the NCA network and why it believes that the federal system that currently exists must remain to reflect the views of the caving clubs. Draft copies of this document will be circulated to clubs as soon as it has been prepared for comment and discussion. At recent BCRA conferences cavers have expressed a wish that the BCRA merges with the NCA and that they felt it, the BCRA, is best suited to reflect the views and opinions of the British caver. This is simply due to lack of knowledge of what the NCA does on a day to day basis. The BCRA, a constituent member of the NCA, does what it has always done for the last couple of decades (including the years before the merger between BSA and CRG) - that is to produce a national magazine and hold conferences and symposia. There is no need for the NCA to duplicate or take over what the BCRA does well. The NCA should be left to be the umbrella organisation to negotiate and fend off external pressures that is closing in on the caving scene.
At the same time there is a clear need for the CSCC to review itÂ’s activates and procedures. The Fairy Cave Quarry problem has highlighted a problem where an officer of the CSCC is also an officer of NCA and his club. This has caused problems, not necessarily of his own making, attempting to wear several caps at at once. I believed for a long time that an officer of the CSCC should be able to represent the collective views of the member clubs without having to look over his shoulder to see what his club at the NCA would feel about his actions. There is clear need for this situation to be resolved: by amending the CSCC Constitution if necessary. If the meeting agrees then the Council's officers should investigate the situation in the coming year and propose any amendments necessary to the constitution.
Secondly, the CSCC should make clear its role in the federal system. Apart from receiving information from the NCA for distribution to member clubs it also has a role in the reverse direction. Should a Club have a problem of access or require the help of an outside organisation such as the Nature Conservancy Council or the Sports Council then the CSCC is there to give guidance and help should it be required. If the Council feels that it requires the assistance of an outside organisation then the NCA can be simply and quickly brought into the discussions - the approach being made by the CSCC in the first place thus ensuring that the NCA is aware that the council has fully approved the NCA action. Whatever help is required by a Club they should formally approach the CSCC in writing to ensure that approach is fully documented in the council's minutes and enabling a full discussion to take place. The CSCC Officers should be empowered to take decisions on behalf elf that Club for the CSCC prior to action being taken by a Council meeting if they feel that this help is justified.
SSSI's
The re-scheduling of the SSSI's for the Mendip sites has
been in the pipeline since NCA accepted a work package from the Nature
Conservance in 1977. A sub-committee was
set. Up to define and write up the sites under review and felt to be included
within the revised schedules areas. Work
for this revision here on Mendip was completed by 1980 and submitted to NCA at
that time, NCA collated all returns from the caving regions and submitted the
whole compilation to the Nature Conservancy Council in 1980. Since that time the NCC have been preparing
the necessary documentation and have only recently contacted the landowners and
farmers in
FAIRY CAVE QUARRY
The problems associated with the
Hobbs Holdings Ltd closed Withyhill and
At the time of the Planning CommitteeÂ’s Site Meeting I wrote
to Graham Price stating that I was unable to attend and wrote “I think the
point ought to be stressed that the CSCC is not adverse to the principle of
Shatter Cave being converted into a show cave provided that it is carried out
in a controlled manner so that itÂ’s intrinsic beauty is not harmed. This I understand is to be monitored by the
NCC and Dr. William Stanton, who is well known for his views in the
conservation of caves”, a letter from himself or Mr, Jeremy Hobbs, stating
their policy regarding the conversion and exploitation of the cave. This has yet to arrive, though from a letter
sent from
FINALLY
There are a number of difficult tasks facing the CSCC in the coming year and for this reason IÂ’ve withdrawn my intention to resign as Chairman of the CSCC and am now prepared for my name to be put forward for re-election.
Dave Irwin, Chairman
CSCC, Priddy, Nr. Wells,
28th April 1986.
Club rep., Bob Cork.
SSSI Special Meeting. The AGM was preceded by a special meeting to discuss the problems regarding the scheduling of caves in the Wookey catchment area. Those affected being; Swildons Hole, Eastwater Cavern, Sludge Pit, Nine Barrows Swallet, North Hill Swallet, St CuthbertÂ’s Swallet and Hunters Hole. Mr Bob Corns the Nature Conversancy Council representative who is handling this matter was invited to attend this meeting.
Dave Irwin (chair) opened the meeting by giving a resume of the events so far plus a history of the events which led to the present revision taking place, a long address but succinct (this will appear in the BB in full in due course). Phil Romford was then invited to speak on a meeting which he and Dave Irwin had with Bob Corns (NCC) on Tuesday 13th May 86. The major outcome of this meeting was that the NCC have no intention to change caving in any sense as we now know it, he was asked to substantiate this in writing, he agreed. A letter from Keith Duff (NCC Peterborough) was handed out to all club reps to clarify and substantiate this. It was made clear to the meeting that although the NCC may not have bad intentions to cavers, the way the scheduling of Priddy caves was conducted has resulted in antagonism which may well result in our access being restricted in the long term.
The letter from NCC Peterborough also revealed changes to the application of some Potentially Damaging Operations which may be of some help to the Landowners, although Bob Corns (NCC) explained them a full understanding is yet to realised
Tim Large was invited to give a resume of a meeting called by Roger Dors to which he invited all affected landowners to discuss the problem; Roger called Dave Irwin, Tim Large and Phil Romford to present their case as cavers and to offer any solutions if possible. A more full report of this meeting is elsewhere in this BB.
A question and answer session was held with Bob Corns in the firing line. He was asked some relevant and some irrelevant questions from the floor, of course he was unable to make policy changes that would have settled some people, changes can only be made on representation to the NCC from interested parties. He left the meeting with a reasonable idea of the feelings abroad. A vote of thanks to Bob Corns was made by Rich Whitcombe.
Resolutions were taken before any CSCC policy and actions could be decided. EGONS and BEC both put forward proposals to form a working party under the council. After much tooing and froing the working party idea was accepted and would comprise the Chairman, Hon Sec, C&A Officer, Geological Adviser, Legal Adviser and up to two Liaison Officer's. Personnel would be voted under AOB of the AGM.
CSCC policy is to unequivocally support the landowners using the working party to make representation to the NCC and other bodies to help resolve the situation. The working party would also make attempts to de-schedule as much as the NCC will allow.
The CSCC would wish that the NCC obtain advice from suitable advisers. If the CSCC did intend taking any action on the matter they would advise the Cerberus S.S. of their intentions.
Club rep; Bob Cork, later Phil Romford.
Chair; Dave Irwin.
Officers Reports. All reports (which will appear in a later BB) were accepted as read.
Grant Aid. After much discussion on who would benefit from grants and whether they should be accepted the council decided that the committee should fully investigate the why's and wherefores of the Sports Council money (ÂŁ110,000.00 to NCA), then report back to the council before any policy is made, most people present were concerned about the implications that taking government money may have.
Paid NCA Officers. The council was left with no doubt that the general feeling was that paid NCA posts were very definitely a bad thing, the committee was directed to make strong representations to any NCA meeting discussing the matter.
CSCC Subscriptions. To cover costs it was proposed and accepted to increase the annual membership subs to ÂŁ6.00 inclusive. Grants would not be applied for to cover admin costs.
NCA Equipment Committee. The rope testing programme was queried regarding cost and ultimate usefulness. CSCC will investigate the programme to check its value and how ÂŁ100 of CSCC money was the programme used.
Election of Officers. The new committee is as follows:-
Chairman Dave Irwin
(BEC)
Secretary Martin Grass (BEC)
Company Secretary Mike Rendell (CSS)
Treasurer Chris Smart (BEC)
Conservation & Access Tim Large (BEC)
Training Officer Alan Dougherty (MCG & ACG)
Equipment Officer Jerry
Breakspeare (CSS)
Any Other Business. The working party officers were voted on as follows:-
Chairman Dave Irwin
CSCC Hon Sec Martin Grass
C & A Officer Tim Large
Geological Adviser Jim Hanwell
Legal Adviser Mike Thompson
Liaison Officers Phil Romford & Graham Price.
The working party will report to the executive committee at regular intervals.
There being no other business the meeting closed at 2245 hrs after a marathon 8 1/4 hrs.
Correspondent: Phil Romford.
Report on a meeting with Priddy landowners held at The Hunters Lodge Inn on 15 May 1986. Caving interests were represented by Dave Irwin as CSCC Chairman accompanied by Phil Romford and Tim Large.
Dave Irwin outlined the history of events leading up to the latest revision of SSSI's on Mendip by the N.C.C. The landowners expressed concern and disappointment that cavers have been involved in the revision and without consulting them beforehand. They were told that the NCC would have gone ahead regardless of caver involvement or not. They consider that the good relations with cavers built up over many years allowing access and exploration are now severely affected.
The landowners are aware that the extent of an SSSI can be extended to include land above the cave wherever new discoveries are made. If this decision by the NCC prevails then landowners may refuse permission to dig new surface sites and underground digs. They will be opposed to any escalation of restrictions on their land usage and effect on its market value.
They were given every support and sympathy for the situation. They were told that cavers are doing everything possible to restore the situation. Of course, we could not give any firm guarantees as to the outcome of our efforts.
Dave Irwin outlined the proposed actions the CSCC will take subject to approval by their AGM, these included: -
1. Lobbying MP's, Minister of the Environment, Sports Council and CCPR.
2. Engage the help of specialists in the scientific and legal fields.
3. Combine action with other regional councils and the NCA.
4. To recommend that in future details of new cave discoveries and their surveys should not be published anywhere.
5. To set up a working party to conduct the above activities.
The landowners propose to obtain media coverage for their cause. The meeting appeared to accept that cavers are on their side and that our interests are closely linked to their own. To this end it looks now as if a joint action by cavers and landowners could be made to combat the problem. Close liaison will be essential and Dave Irwin told the meeting that he would supply the landowners with a copy of his CSCC report.
To emphasise their position the landowners of Swildon's and Eastwater have decided to close their caves for an indefinite period as of 17th May 1986. This action is to demonstrate to the cavers that they do in fact control access to the caves. The point was raised that until the consents are signed it would be technically illegal for them to allow access.
Tim Large and Phil Romford
16th May 1986
Unfortunately there has been a delay at the printers with this BB (nearly 4 weeks instead of the usual 2). With luck you should get your next BB on time at the end of July.
The BCRA have organised a film evening at the Chemistry
Dept. Bristol Univ. at 7pm on Thursday 26th June. Tickets @ÂŁ2 each from Dick
Willis, 56
There will be a members weekend at the Belfry on 22/23 August with a barrel provided for those members undertaking some work on the hut.
This carries on giving up passage to the BEC/Cardiff diggers
who have now found over a mile of passage this year. On 29/5 to 1/6 another 750m to lkm of new
passage was entered by forcing a very tight horizontal squeeze at the end of
"
The team returned on 6-8 June and pushed the side passages in the new extension. One high level passage doubled back with a pushable side passage leading off north, hopefully dropping down into the diverÂ’s extension. Another passage is leading south requires digging. Arthur Millet and Steve Allen started the survey of the latest extension and surprisingly after 150m in a NNW direction the main passage turns West. This was not properly surveyed but continues in that. Direction for at least 400m and the end must be very near the terminal sump in Agen Allwedd. If a connection is made then the combined length will be over 50km! as Daren is now over 20km in length.
Martyn Farr is going to be filmed by HTV on his attempted throuqh trip from Danen Cilau to Elm Hole. This will be a record through trip, unless, of course, the BEC connect Daren and Aggy first.
Snablet kept the BEC spirit going by arriving at the campsite with a pewter tankard and 3 pints of beer, no mean feat as anyone who has been there will confirm.
Mark Lumley
Due to the amount of effort put in at Daren Cilau, Mark has not organised anything for the Derbyshire meet. If anyone is thinking of going then they will have to make their own arrangements.
The
Editor: Dave Turner
The views expressed by contributors to the Belfry Bulletin,
including those of club officers are not necessarily the views of the committee
of the Bristol Exploration Club, or the editor, unless so stated. The Editor cannot guarantee the accuracy of
information contained in contributed matter as it cannot normally be checked in
the time at his disposal
Enclosed with BB is a ballot form for the election of next
yearÂ’s committee, please either send it back to Bob or bring it with you to the
AGM.
If you havenÂ’t yet booked your dinner tickets with Brian
Workman then you are leaving it very late! There is a choice of main course. Roast Sirloin of Beef or Prime Roast
AGENDA
1. Election
of Chairman
2. Collection
of outstanding ballot papers
3. Election
of three tellers
4. Apologies
for absence
5. Collection
of members resolutions
6. Minutes
of the 1985 Annual General Meeting
7. Matters
arising from the 1985 Minutes
8. Hon.
Secretary's Report
9. Hon.
Treasurer's Report
10. Hon.
Auditor's Report
11. Caving
SecretaryÂ’s Report 12. Hut WardenÂ’s Report
13. Tacklemaster's
Report
14. BB
Editor's Report
15. Hut
Engineer's Report
16. Librarian's
Report
17. Ian
Dear Memorial Fund Report
18. Results
of ballot for Committee
19. Election
of Committee Posts
20. Constitutional
Amendments
21. Any
Other Business
The Annual Dinner will be held at the Caveman Restaurant,
Cheddar on Saturday 4th October at 7.30pm for 8.00pm.
MENU
Hors dÂ’oeuvre
Minestrone soup and
Parmesan cheese
or
Home made Liver and Bacon Pate with Melba toast.
Main Course
Roast Sirloin Beef
with Yorkshire Pudding and Horseradish Source
or
Prime roast
Roast and parsley boiled potatoes, sprouts and buttered carrots.
Sweet
Homemade sherry
trifle and fresh cream
or
Coffee and mints.
Half a bottle of red
or white wine per person.
When ordering tickets please state choice of main
course. Tickets are available from Brian
Workman, Oakhill,
(In accordance with section 7A of the Constitution)
Committee Proposals (reference section 5 - Committee)
1.
2. That para. 5b be split into 2 parts. 5b(i) and 5b(ii) and altered as follows: -
5(i) shall read a 5b, but with
the word "nine" replaced by “twelve”.
Note: 5b(ii) shall be a clause to
allow an election for the committee to take place at the AGM if the system as
set out in 5b (i) fails.
5b(ii) to read "In the event
that the Secretary receives less than eight nominations by the end of the
second week of tember, providing he has given written notice to all members no
less than seven days before the AGM, he may ask the Chairman to accept
nominations from the floor. Any nominations must be seconded.
The candidates shall include
those members nominated from the floor plus any nominations notified a in 5b(i)
and voting will be by a method acceptable to the meeting".
3.
4.
Additional Amendment
Proposede: C.M. Smart
Seconded: A.Jarrett
That section 3(a)A be amended as follows: “Married couples” be replaced by “Married and
Common Law Couples”.
This is in line with other caving clubs e.g. Bradford
Pothole Club and the D.C.R.A. who accept such common law couples as joint
members. I believe that it would have
the additional benefit of bringing in extra revenue.
As the committee has the ultimate sanction of accepting or
rejecting such membership this amendment is not as radical as it seems at first
inspection.
Blitz.
OFFICERSÂ’ REPORTS
So now the BEC is 51 years old. The club wound themselves up to the fiftieth
celebrations and would appear to have not come down again. The membership as a whole, have pulled together
in true BEC style and the club has enjoyed an exceptionally active year. Members have been involved in many notable
achievements, the Cheddar Risings, Daren Cilau extensions, a very successful
club expedition to Austria and the reopening of Wigmore Swallet as a club
digging project, to name but a few.
The Belfry improvements are not only finished. but paid for,
thanks to the efforts of the treasurer and many kind donations by members new
and old. Phil Romford, Alan Thomas,
Nigel Taylor and Butch are also to be thanked for their fund raising efforts.
If anything marred the year it was the unpleasantness of the
SSSI problem, this affected all the clubs on Mendip as you may or may not have
read in the BB. The actions taken by the
NCC in respect of this matter seriously damaged our relations with the
landowners, and as a result a number of caves have been closed.
The BEC has been active in the efforts to restore the status
quo, because of our commitment to supporting the local landowners a committee
decision was taken to close St. CuthbertÂ’s for a period of 2 weeks earlier in
the year as a gesture of solidarity. This decision was not taken lightly and I hope members understand why
such action had to be taken.
The Committee has adopted a policy of encouraging active
caving throughout the club, and giving special support to our younger
members. It was with this in mind that
after a long discussion that we decided to replace the now dated
ultra-lightweight tackle with an amount of SRT equipment. This subject will no doubt be enlarged upon
by the Tackle Officer in his report.
Efforts are still being made to purchase the Cuthbert's
lease but due to our lack of funds at the beginning of the year we have not
pushed this matter.
It pleases me this AGM to see the club has returned to its
former glory and an election is necessary to decide on next year's
committee. Last year we had the
unfortunate position whereby we had insufficient candidates to form a full
committee, this was rectified by using the co-option rule in the
constitution. As directed, the committee
has drafted proposals for constitutional changes that will allow a committee to
be elected from the floor at the AGM, if such an emergency situation should
ever arise again.
I personally would like to thank all the present committee
for their Herculean efforts throughout the year~ which has made my job as
secretary that much easier. A special
thank you, I think, is in order to Jeremy Henley who, unfortunately for the
club, is resigning from the post of treasurer. He has made major contributions to the running of the club during his
term of office and will be missed in the future.
In conclusion, I would like to say that I have enjoyed
carrying out the secretarial duties for the club, and I hope the forth coming
year will prove as fruitful as the last. Bob Cork, Hon Sec, Sept 1986
1) The club has had a successful year
financially. It opened the year with a
negative balance of ÂŁ1633.82 and closed the year with a current balance of
ÂŁ1024.41, a turnaround of ÂŁ2658.23. Our
overdraft peaked in September at ÂŁ2402.00
2) This has been due to the generosity of a number
of members, the hard work of others who have raised funds, the increase in
subscriptions and the earlier payment of them, the level of hut fees set
towards the end of the new financial year and a tighter control on inessential
expenditure.
3) I am pleased to report that a significant amount
of tackle has been purchased this year, in excess of ÂŁ400 which is more than
all the years together that I have been treasurer and this I believe heralds a
return to what the club is about – caving.
4) The number of bednights has fallen steeply which
is of great concern as they are the largest source of income. The fall has been offset by the higher
charges, but if the trend continues the surplus earned this year will not
continue.
5) If donations and fund raising for the hut are
ignored the surplus of income over expense from normal activities was
ÂŁ902.67. I recommend therefore that
subscriptions and hut fees remain unchanged for the coming year.
Jeremy Henley .
It hardly seems a year since I told Mac there was no way he
was ever going to con me into being Caving Sec. IÂ’ve surprised myself and thoroughly enjoyed every minute of it though~
and IÂ’ll gladly do it next year if elected.
Since last October the club has had some good meets up in
Yorkshire and one or two washouts in
Snablet and Tom Chapman found several hundred feet in
Swildons 2 before the NCC decided that cave formations damaged their red
tape! A connection between the Boulder
Chamber and Ifold Series in Eastwater looked on the cards too, found by J-Rat
and Tim Large, until the NCC put a stop to caving, farming and goodwill in
Priddy (presumably because it all looks a bit messy to the hordes of tourists
they are encouraging to the area).
In Manor Farm. Quiet
John Watson, Wormhole and Chris Castle are working on a very promising rift in
the far reaches beyond NHASA Gallery which is currently yielding to Tim LargeÂ’s
box of tricks! Blitz Passage at the end
of Wigmore has decided its not a terminal choke after all (again thanks to
TimÂ’s bang licence). Tim, Steve M.,
Blitz and myself are currently making steady progress in a low, draughting
bedding with high hopes of hitting the limestone soon. Trevor Hughes has been helped in Halloween
Rift by Pete Eckford and Trebor is optimistic about reaching Wookey Hole before
his beard reaches his baldric.
Andy Sparrow has been busy in
In Daren Cilau, the Rock Steady Crew have found over one and
a half kilometres of passage and a connection with Agen Allwedd looks
close. We stand a good chance of getting
the longest British cave system in the next year.
In Co. Clare, the BEC were making their presence felt at
Easter with Pete Glanville and Martin Grass diving the Green Holes and the LADS
finding numerous new sites and pushing Poulnagrinn.
Even
Bob and Dany represented the club on the
And finally
Mark Lumley, Sept 1986
This has been a good first year for me as editor. Unlike previous years I have had a good
supply of articles from a number of members and I thank them all for making the
effort. As in most years most of the
articles I have received have come from the same small group of members, I
shall not name them in case I omit anyone, but my particular thanks to them.
In many ways the quality of the BB is out of the editor's
hands as it is mainly a mirror on the club's activities. The editor's task is made much easier when
the club is active and I feel that this has been the case this year. I have tried to keep members informed as to
all the clubs activities within a reasonable time of their happening and as
such I am pleased to have an article in this BB (September) on the club's
expedition to Austria.
It was a pity that the largest BB for many years was only
due to the scheduling of SSSIÂ’s and I make no apologies for boring some members
with all the relevant bumph. It is,
unfortunately, one of the most important happening affecting Mendip caving and
it is my duty to keep members as fully informed as possible.
My main regret with the BB this year has been the length of
time between my finishing typing an issue and the time it takes to print it and
distribute it. I hope that this can be
changed next year and we are already investigating ways of doing so.
Dave Turner.
By 2.8.86, three carloads of Belfryites had arrived in
Hallstatt, and were in various stages of inebriation ranging from plain
comatose to Commode Hugging Drunk. Blitz, Gonzo, Steve Milner, Trebor, Duncan Frew (The Token Wessex
member) Richard Payne walked up the mountain in the afternoon while J-Rat,
Bullroarer Gould, Andy Lovell & Snablet sorted out the Seilbahn and stayed
in Hallstatt, for a valuable public relations exercise in the Divers Bar and
the local caving hut. Andy Lovell was so
impressed with the local Stiegel beer that he deposited his entire evenings
intake on the pavement outside the Bar, for further examination and then
proceeded to lose his wallet containing all his holiday money. This first evening set the standard for many
happy nights to follow.
Log: 3/8 While Steve, Trebor & Richard worked the winch,
Blitz,
Log: 3/8 Trebor, Steve & Richard went off for
acclimatisation walk when the others got back, cave spotting also. Found numerous plugged snow holes of course,
plus a chamber with an ice covered floor and ice stals. Then found C.57 which seems to have opened up
since it was last looked at. Worth a
better look at in the Morgan. Trebor.
We were joined in the evening by Bob Riley of the Burnley
C.C. Tomma, Malvern Dave and Pete of the N.C.C. An enjoyable evening was had by all around a bonfire outside the
Wiesberghaus with our hosts, Robert & Laura.
Log: 4/8/ Tomma,
Pete, J.Rat, Dave (SWCC), Snablet, Bob Riley. Went for a look at C.33. Cave
drops quickly down several short climbs to head of 10m pitch to large chamber
and cairn (this was explored to here by
Log: 4/8 Dave, Pete, Tomma, J.Rat & Snablet. Had a root round in a dig - Asshohle, after
removing some boulders in a loose choke. After a six foot drop, a five foot crawl leading to a cross rift blocked
at one end. Other end unknown. There is a slight draught, it needs another
look with more protection than shorts. Bearing from C.33 is Dave.
Log: 4/8 Gonzo, Steve, Blitz,
Log 4/8 C.38 contd. Points not mentioned by Mark. Three bloody great Faults intersect where the cave descends, if this is
not a sound prospect I'm a Bratwurst!! Steve.
Log: 4/8. On the way
back from C.38 we walked towards Grun Kogel, but continued around at about C.38
height. Noted several swallets, couple
of shafts, one section of amazing canyon passage into a snow plug and two
horizontal entrances (1m x 1.5m) one into snow plug with chamber/passage (4m x
5m) leading to very easy dig into cross rift. Could see 4m right and 2m left. Blitz.
Log: 4/8 Trebor & Richard. Went to look at C.57. Loads of shafts & collapses along fault
parallel to resurgence - all choked.
Log: 4/8 Andy, Tim, Snablet. Noted several holes in massive depression about ½ hour from
Wiesberghaus. One was blowing well, had
a short dig in large boulders. Found
10-15 shafts nearby several of which are over 20m deep but very tight. Andy.
Log: 4/8 Pleasant dreams about Samantha Fox, ruined by three
Yorkshire twats who couldn't hold their beer (Morning Tomma!) have to educate
them about how to drink ad infinitum! Mark.
Snablet demonstrated the tradition of Morris honking,
retching all night to the accompaniment of bells.
Log: 5/8 Wiesberghoh1e. Tomma, Pete, J.Rat, Trebor. To a cave 4 mins from the Wiesberghaus shown
to us by Robert. A low, muddy,
descending crawl led to a choke some 10m in. This was dug and passed by J.Rat, Dave and Trebor - the others going to
descend a nearby 10m shaft. Beyond the
choke the passage was walking sized dry phreatic stuff leading to a 14m pitch
after about 16m. From the pitch bottom
some 180m of superb, roomy cave ending on the brink of a 15-20m (approx) pitch
with large passage visible below and the sound of a stream. A selection, of F------ great Henries were
hurled down the shaft before we retreated, checking the floor for possible ways
down en route. Nothing found but an
inlet passage ⅓ way along leading to calcite choke with an echoing sound
beyond. Removed the entrance choke
completely using crowbar, scaffold pole and 15 gallons of adrenalin! J.Rat.
August 5th, saw a return to C.38, now dubbed Titanschacht,
due to the enormous (Wimpey home) boulders on the scree above the entrance. Steve descended the now wet shaft to continue
bolting and was nearly zapped by boulders falling from the loose entrance. He re-emerged as white as the Homepride man. Duncan then went down only to return equally
promptly when the wall he was bolting into proved that Newton was right and
collapsed.
Meanwhile, Blitz and Gonzo, went prospecting. There was an entrance higher up the fault
from Titanschacht. Heading north along
the cliffs, we found many holes including one very large pot on a major fault
partially snow plugged which was later descended by Howard Limbert and the
Yorkshire crew with a 40m entrance shaft to choke.
Log: 5/8 Wiesberghohle. After removing the choke near the entrance with the famous words from J.
Rat
"I can't understand what's holding this lot
up!" While standing underneath a
fridge sized Henry! Pete and Dave, then
went down the next (23m) pitch leading into tight, immature passage. 7m up the shaft a rift passage leads to
fallen blocks and a possible way on, but after ½ hours battering it still would
not yield. About ½ way down the pitch a
pendulum led to a shattered passage leading after 20m to a 17m pitch. Another pitch found after 7m - about 16m
(un-descended). Several passages leading
off to old, abandoned passage and tight vertical rifts below the main passage
ending in a climb needing rope into passage below. The Food Snatchers.
Log: 6/8 Titanschacht - Gonzo and Duncan. Went down together so as not to lob any
Herberts on each other. Gonzo managed
the next rebelay using a piton to stay in situ. Reached the bottom of the main shaft - solidly choked. Returning up about 16m we pendulumed into an
alcove where we were joined by Bob Riley. Four ways on, three of which closed down. The fourth, a narrow rift taking water was
followed by Duncan to a point where it became too narrow.
Log: Two days in advance but Snablet probably still
honking! South Wales Caving Club, had a
'family coach load' of about 30 people in Hallstatt and were represented on the
mountain by a team of about five cavers including Chris Fry, Jon Young, Andy
Dawson and Ow Jones. They had been
prospecting an area down the Barengasse-Herengasse Fault where they had little
success until Chris, found a hole that was later to change the direction of the
entire expedition.
Log: 6/8 5104. Open
entrance leads to steeply descending rift dropping 32m (approx) over a length
of 130m. Two short crawls give access to
a chamber with a large 40m pitch. Way on
open. Andy.
The hole was next to a group of Jagerhuttes (Hunters Lodges)
so the Mendip contingent promptly renamed S104 Jagerhohle (Hunters Hole) much
to the disgust of the Welsh lads!!
Log: 7/8 Kurt, Peter Seetoller (Halistatt Club) Burnley Bob,
Trebor, J.Rat, Steve, Blitz. Wiesberghohle. Tourist trip for
the Austrians - Peter was impressed, Kurt just took the piss. Pushed sandy crawl on ledge at bottom of
Berghilchschacht to emerge back in Dave and Pete's passage. J.Rat swung on the rope at the top of
Robertschacht to reach a very exposed ledge half of which promptly dropped
off. He chickened out at this point but
a large passage can be seen 3m away over the top of the shaft. Needs bolting or rigid ladder.
Log: 7/8 C.66 Must castrate Blitz. Mark. While you're about it don't forget a
certain small pitches without prussiking kit. Duncan, bastard who abseils down.
Log: 7/8. After
farting about with C.66 we walked off towards Niederer Ochsenkogel. I looked for horizontal entrances in the
terraces of the eastern face. There were
five or six small passages heading in for about 10 - 15m before becoming too
tight. Then I found an entrance
partially obscured by fallen scree. The
passage was 3-4m wide and 10m high. Mark.
The next day this was entered and choked after 20-30m.
Log: 7/8 Walked back to draughting hole and dug until
boulders were too big. Wandered over
west and found some holes with snow plugs, one of which nearly collapsed under
me. Abseiled down 7m to snow covered
floor in a small chamber with good icicles and way on tight over snow-not
followed.
On the way back I found a 30m shaft with snow at the bottom
and a possible way on: Andy. C.66. After pulling up a few rocks from entrance of
a tight shaft: descended 7m to ledge then further 7m to bottom of shaft with
narrow rift running off at the bottom. White walled rift ended (too tight) after about 33m. Pretty Horrible. Snablet.
Log: 7/8 S104 (Jagerhohle). Continued on from base of 40m pitch up over pile of boulders along short
traverse to top of next pitch estimated at 45m. Started rigging difficult pitch head, then driver fell apart and dropped
down the hole. Second shaft is on a
large fault, bearing not yet known. Andy.
Log: 7/8 2 Austrians, 1 Yorkie. Shaft on Grune Kogel. Ten minutes walk from Titanschacht following
cairns. Entrance in large doline. Scramble down past snow plug - climbs and
pitches to depth approx 40m. Base of
shaft, small alcove with climbs above to passage (not yet climbed). Large obvious cave leading off in opposite
direction, very easy going in large, half round tube for 130m to a draughting
dig. This was pushed through to a small
chamber, climb up sandy slope to large squeeze into base of an aven. Two alternatives into more active part of
system with small, un-descended pitch. Bob.
The eight of August, was fairly uneventful as far as caving
went. There was a thunderstorm in the
afternoon. Half the team went down to
Hallstatt for a trip in Hirlatzhohle which was unfortunately postponed, the
Welsh lads returned to Jagerhohle but left prematurely without rigging the
second pitch as the water started to rise. The Wiesberghaus was struck by lightning and so was one of the Welsh
crew. In the end there was nothing for
it but to get Steigeled. We were also
joined by 4 M.U.S.S. who had been turfed off the Tennengeberge. Between us we drank the Weisberghaus dry:
Log: 9.8.86. 5104
Jagerhohle. Duncao, Bob, Gonzo. Second
pitch rigged 40m deep 70% of which the walls are coated thickly with moon
milk. Obvious passage leading off soon
becomes tight. Climb down through
boulders to stream, traverse forward to 3rd pitch - 15m (approx) soon followed
by 4th pitch (18m) short passage to 5th pitch. Gonzo descended the 5th pitch on the last available rope. The pitch was 33m. Unfortunately the rope was only 30m so some
acrobatics were needed (using a cowtail) before the descent was completed. A steep ramp headed off to the top of the 6th
pitch. Meanwhile, Duncan and Chris,
started surveying. Bob.
Log: 10/8 Hirlatzhohle. Kurt, Tim Gould, J. Rat, Andy, Blitz, Richard, 8 SWCC, Tomma, Pete,
Dave. Kurt was 7 mins late but then had
to wait 1 hour for BEC/NCC to eat their breakfast. Superb trip in this huge phreatic system to
the end of the old cave, where Dave and Blitz pushed along a grotty, wet
passage for 70m to a choke. A race developed
on the way back to the entrance. Everyone very impressed by the huge passage, tons of fine white sand and
the incredible howling draught in the small entrance passages. All this after a superb afternoon/evenings
booze up at the Hallstatt Festival where a BEC sticker was employed ABOVE a
SWCC flag about 60' up the side of the local church tower - thanks to the local
cavers who were demonstrating S.R.T. rescue with the most attractive, sensual,
tasty etc. etc. rescue victim on record. Regarding this, there is one place where the BEC actually failed to
get! J. Rat.
Log: 10/8. 5104 Jagerhohle. Burnley Bob, Nigel and Jan M.U.S.S. Re-rigged several pitches, down slope of boulders rigged with line, 13m
pitch (6th), climb down to stream. A few
meters of passage then 10m pitch (7th) (Lousy Rigging) into stream. Short passage with stream disappearing
through impenetrable crack on the left. Step up into large canyon passage sloping down steeply with several
pools. Short pitch just ahead.
Log: 11/8 Jagerhohle, Snablet, Steve, Gonzo. Up at 6 o'clock (To avoid forecast evening
storm). Snablet got lost. Steve and Mark carried on down to BobÂ’s
furthest point of yesterday. Down
sloping canyon to 7m pitch (8th) and along canyon to 13m pitch (9th) into
abandoned sump-zone with formations. Dried mud over floor. Bob arrived
and found way on to head of 10th pitch. Complex area at head of the pitch wants looking at. Plenty of room to
sit out flash flood between all pitches. Mark.
By now Howard & Debbie Limbert, Tim, Allen, Rupert, Dany
and Alan Turner had arrived at the hut and were busy looking for cave and
following up previous leads.
Log: 11/8 Jagerhohle. Andy, Jon (SWCC). Left early to re-rig some of the pitches.
With thoughts of thunderstorms and long hold up at 2nd pitch we ended up
helping Duncan with surveying to 3rd pitch. Rigging on 2nd pitch needs
attention. Andy.
Log: 11/8 Recce to GruneKogel. 1 hour walk from camp follow good cairn route
to large, obvious fault at base of cliffs. Large entrance hole (AI) was descended by 15m pitch to another shaft
(20m) which was blocked with snow. No
obvious draught. 200m back along cliff
base found two (A2, A3) large depressions. A2 consisted of 20m pitch followed by slope on snow past ice formations
to snow chute 35m (approx) deep. A3 - A
small climb down 8m to snow plug. Climb
up on one side led to crawl 10m to 30m pitch followed by 16m pitch to tight
passage. Could see a pitch in
front. At base of 30~ pitch a passage
led off to top of 50m (un-descended) pitch. A return trip is planned tomorrow, book early!! Howard.
Log: 11/8 Blitz, John(Big Nose) and Dave.
Wiesberghohle. Went back down. Got across the pole above first rope pitch
(Robertschacht). After 2m of horizontal
passage it led to a short shaft connecting with Robertschacht. After a 5m traverse it led to another shaft
(13m). After climbing about 5m this was
seen to be too tight. Dave.
Log: 12/8 Jagerhohle, Trebor, Andy, Tim. Photographic trip getting good shots of 1st
& 2nd pitches. We met J.Rat and
crew, had a smoke and pissed off out. Tim. After about 4 hrs
Log: 12/8 Jagerhohle. Tomma and Howard, surveyed from top of 3rd pitch to bottom of 9th
pausing only for Tomma to honk every 5 mins. J.Rat and Trebor, surveyed from bottom of 9th to within 33m of
10th. Superb trip with a few exciting
moments on both 2nd and 1st pitches. J.Rat nearly lost his top set of teeth! J.Rat.
The incident above was when Tony's maillon decided to part
company with one side of his sit harness 40m off the ground. He was promptly horribly sick over those
waiting below.
Log: 12/8 Jagerhohle, Dave, Pete, John (Big Nose). After fighting our way down amongst everybody
we hit some abominable rigging, this is rope we are using, not wire and we are
playing with peoples lives. We picked up
various lengths of rope in bags scattered around the place. After the 10th pitch it started to change
character with narrow rift passages leading to a 5m pitch. After, some narrow rift passages led to some
shorter pitches including a 10m pitch with a rebelay to a 16m pitch. Traversing over the latter led to another
shaft reconnecting with the first. Carrying on further led to a huge shaft, going upwards - the light would
not reach the top. The bottom 16m is
quite aqueous. This led to (approx) 10m
of narrow rift to an un-descended 3m pitch. Here we were hit by an increase in water and made a hasty retreat. Some of the pitches were quite wet, but
nothing too bad. This is a superb cave
with loads of passage which has not yet been touched~ Hirlatzhohle here we
come! Dave.
Log: 13/8 Jagerhohle. Tim, Allen, Rupert. Went down, fucked about for 13 hours and came
out. The trip was joined by Bob Riley,
between them they pushed the cave down to the top of the seventeenth pitch and
surveyed back to the tenth. Rupert
Log: 13/8 Jagerhohle Gonzo. Solo trip in until I met 2 South Wales lads rigging 2nd pitch. Headed down with them to head of 9th. Climbed up in roof to well decorated higher
section of rift. At top of 10th went
along phreatic borehole to base of large aven. S.W.C.C. headed out while I went down to help bolt the pitches. Met Bob, Rupert and Tim on P.13
surveying. Bolting done, no more rope so
I headed out losing carbide base en route. Mark.
Log: Where is it now HEE! HEE! Anon.
Log: 13/8 Andy's mega through trip. Carried Trebor from the Wiesberghaus to the
Glacken in a comatose state and placed him gently on the floor. He had drunk 1ÂĽ bottles of Johnny Walker! Andy.
The day was also noted for an amusing remark from a German
tourist - 'You are cave inspectors, Ja?' J.Rat's pearl of wisdom on comparing the local brands of cigarette "Having a hobby is better than smoking a
Johnny!"
Log: 14/8 Steve, Dave, Pete and John. 'Kin excellent trip. 15 hours and absolutely shagged out. Went down approximately 20 pitches to the
head of a mega passage/pitch/fault bearing N.W. straight towards the
Hirlatzhohle. Pete descended this on
several ropes tied together but the rigging is awful and needs to be done
properly. Hirlatzhohle here we
come! A hell of a trip to finish a
superb holiday - me thinks I'll be back next yearÂ…pity, I missed the farewell
piss-up. Steve.
The majority of the Mendip crew headed for home to dry out
on the fifteenth, leaving seven of the
Log 15/8. Looked for
new caves in the depressions higher up from Jagerhohle. One hole was draughting quite strongly but
was too small to get in because boulders blocked the way. Inside I could see it got larger. Alan.
Stardate: 15/8. Dear
Brethren, the holy one, Kurt and Peter, have arrived at our humble abode. The great one has ordained that he and other
Ostriches will not permit the name Jagerhohle and it must be called Wies Alm
Schacht. You will obey my commands! Or you will be exterminated. Your most humble servant, Pete.
P.S. Vy hass ze
zurveyed length not been put on ze survey, instead off ze plan length~ Ziss
vill not do! Vy you not do it??
Dany, Howard, Bob. Went down to continue survey and bring more gear down
Wiesberghohle. Survey started at top of
20th pitch, down boulder rift and through huge boulder choke for streamway
continuation. Finished at head of
(approx) 80m pitch where Tim, Rupert and Bob were rigging. Exited after 17 hours trip total depth for
last survey station 483.Sm. It's now
heading towards one of the high points of Hirlatzhohle (approx) 100m difference
in height 1km away.
Rupert, Tim and Bullit Bob. Last pushing trip. Re-rigged 21st
pitch with single rope and took the rest on down. Steep descent through boulder choke (50m)
lead back to stream.
Water disappeared into tight rift but over top, phreatic
passage led to 80m pitch which required devious rigging with 2 deviations and 3
rebelays. Top part was in wide rift but
bottom part opened out into large circular shaft. At the bottom the stream entered an immature
streamway but a climb up boulders gained a large phreatic tunnel with a crazed
mud floor. (Something for the S.W.C.C.
to tape off next year). This passage led
for several hundred feet to a squeeze then opened out again just so pitch
(un-descended). The depth must now be
between 550m - 580m. Prospects look excellent.
De-rigging The Bastard. Pete, Nose and Jordy, de-rigged all kit to 15th Pitch.
Large team then went in at various times and de-rigged to
1st pitch and took several bags out. Next day, everyone brought bags out and de-tackled to Seilbahn hut. Job done.
Two flood pulses went down on the mega de-rigging trip but
no real problems caused. Several people
quite cold due to hanging about and Dave drew short straw to de-tackle the
bottom of 5th pitch very wet when rope isn't tied off!!
With the cave left below 550m we'll have to go back next
year. Realistically, we should put a
camp down in the region of the 22nd pitch. We're going to need a lot of 9mm rope for the lower pitches of the cave
because tackle ferrying can be awkward between the 9th and 15th pitches so we
shall need sponsorship.
The furthest point reached is only 150 metres above
Hirlatzhohle with about a kilometre to go along the fault. A connection will give us a cave with a depth
of 1100m putting it amongst the deepest in the world. We will also have one of the deepest through
trips in the world. Anyone interested?
Mark Lumley.
Surveys in the next B.B.
[PROPERLY KNOWN AS WIES - ALM HOBLE]
Jager Hohle discovered by Chris Fry, one of the contingent
from the SWCC, was a delight to explore.
Mark Lumley, (Burnley) Rob Riley and I were invited by the
SWCC to help rig the second deep & roomy pitch, this turned out to be
approx. 180' deep. This was quickly
followed by three more pitches; 40' 50' and 100'. We ran out of rope at this stage and headed
out after 8hrs. We had reached approx.
-800'.
Our second trip two days later, incidentally on my birthday,
saw Mark, Burnley Bob and I rigging down to the bottom of the 9th pitch,
approx. -950'. Here the cave development
was horizontal and confusing, we retired again as we had little rope and
couldn't find the way!.
The next day Malvern Dave, Pete, and Tomma of the NCC
discovered the route beyond the 9th and rigged down to the top of the
14th. The next pushing team; Burnley
Bob, Rupert Scorupka and Tim Fogg pushed down to the top of the 18th pitch
(with some superb acrobatic rigging on their part).
My penultimate day up on the limestone plateau was spent
exploring Jager Hohle with Malvern Dave, Pete and John (Big Nose), pushing down
to the top of the 21st pitch. When we
arrived at the bottom of the 14th pitch we had a brew and decided that Malvern
Dave and I should rig beyond the 18th pitch and that Pete and Big Nose should
follow behind us surveying from the last survey point at the 14th. This arrangement worked perfectly, Dave and I
managing to keep ahead of the survey team bolting where necessary. I still had reservations about rigging virgin
pitches as the first time I had tried this lark was during the previous week
down Titan Schacht, Dave told me later that he too had very little experience
of rigging virgin pitches, anyway, we managed.
Around the 19th pitch the cave changed character
completely. From the clean washed rift
passage we had been descending we came into a lofty passage with the first dry
mud banks, the remnants of a flood centuries ago. We dropped down a 10' pitch and had the
pleasure of racing down a big passage to the top of a very big drop. The wall to our left and in front of us
couldn't be seen with our lights and we threw stones down an obviously very
deep ramp. An impressive place. We had three medium sized ropes left, these
we tied together and Pete made a dodgy descent over an unstable wall on the right
using an equally dodgy rebelay. At the
bottom Pete raced off and was only held up from further exploration by a 10'
pitch. The landing was -397.8m and Pete
had descended a further 70m or so.
Dave and I had been waiting at the top of the 21st for one
hour during Pete's descent. The draught
at this point was terrific (outwards) and despite thermal underwear, an Alpinex
undersuit, a furry undersuit, an oversuit, balaclava and gloves, we were very
cold indeed. It took ages for us to warm
up a again on the way out. We exited
from the cave to a beautiful clear night, I had been down some 15hrs or so and
was very knackered. The journey back up
to the Wiesberghaus took me well over an hour, a less exhausted person would
complete the distance in 25 mins or so. At 2am at my tent (and in a frost) I passed into a very deep and happy
sleep.
ADDENDUM
I understand that only one more pushing trip was made before
the cave had to be de-rigged. The cave
was approx. -550m to the top of a hundred or so foot pitch. The line of the cave is on a fault down the
Wies Alm Valley heading straight towards a passage in the Hirlatzhohle 1km
distant and just 160m or so below us. Horizontal development has to come soon in very large cave. We have potentially the deepest through trip
in the world (and the longest in Austria if we connect with the Mammuthohle as
well).
Steve Milner
Most of the Mendip lot were already in
After stopping in the night for a sleep in a French lay-by
we drove continuously through Belgium, Germany and into Austria. We arrived in Hallstat in the early hours of
Sunday, the mountains were just outlines in the sky. We went to sleep by the lake, just outside
Hallstat. An early morning swim with the
topless women was made by a few in the group, but was just too much for Dany.
After the excitement we had to organise the sailband (A
cable car which can only carry equipment) The Scailband would take our equipment to the “Wiesberghaus” (The Hunters). It took a few hours to organise because the
Wiesberghaus had been hit by lightning the day before, so communications were
nil. A couple from our group walked up
(one to two hour walk) and by midday we had just sent our first load. We finished with the Sailband by 4.00pm and
we managed to catch the last cable car up. As we arrived at the cable car we met Dave, Pete and Tomma who gave us
the general news, and about Tomma's mystery illness after a night's drinking.
I was quite surprised at the speed of thunderstorms, because
by the time we reached the top the heavens had opened. We stayed at the cable car bar until the
storm had subsided, then we made our way to the Wiesberghaus. The evening was spent at the Wiesberghaus
having a piss up, and hearing all the news.
First day up the hill I decided to go with Howard, Deb,
Rupert, Tim and Dany to look for some new caves. The walk was half an hour across jagged
limestone following good cairn tracks (A
place which had been roughly looked at the week before but needed another
look). At the base of the cliff there
was an obvious fault, the first hole (Al) was on the fault. The hole was 15 feet by 20 feet, with snow on
one side. Tim and Rupert descended the 10 metre entrance shaft to an inclined
passage, 3 feet wide by 10 ft high with a ice floor. This led to the head of a 20m pitch, at the
bottom it was blocked by snow. There was
no obvious draught.
While they had been down the cave the rest of us were
looking for more holes which could be descended. One looked very promising (A2) and had a 30ft
diameter entrance shaft. The entrance
shaft was about 40ft deep, with snow at the bottom. One side of a pitch was descended (100ft) but
this was also blocked by ice. Some good
ice formations! Another hole was found
(A3) with a slightly smaller entrance shaft than (A2) with a 20ft free climb
onto a snow plug with no way down. On
the far side was a fairly awkward climb of 10ft. This led along a small passage for 15ft to
the head of a 30m pitch. At the top it
was very frost shattered and a few moments were taken clearing the pitch of
loose boulders. The pitch was descended
to ledge 10ft from the bottom and a climb down revealed a tight passage leading
off. Trim and Rupert dug for a while to
see another pitch (12m) but were too cold to descend. At the base of the 30m pitch a small passage
led off to the top of large shaft (+50m) this was also un-descended. I arranged to go with Tim and Rupert on an
early morning pushing trip down (A3) the next day.
The next day Tim, Rupert and myself left the campsite about
half past eight. We had arranged that
Dany and Deb would come in later to survey. We managed to start descending the cave about quarter past nine, to the
sound of a thunderstorm. I was quite
concerned about the storm but carried on. The first pitch had been rigged with a rebelay. It was looped around a horizontal flake and
care had to be taken when prussiking up. We reached the bottom and went to the top of the (50m). This was actually a fine 160ft. pitch
gradually enlarging to a chamber (90ft x 35ft). Half way down the rope went through an eye hole into the chamber, this
is the finest pitch I have done! There
were two ways on at the bottom, one was a 30ft choked shaft, and a quick dig
led to a 40ft pitch. This landed on the
floor of a chamber with flood water coming in from the roof, but there were no
problems. Another short passage led to a
50ft pitch into a mega fault passage, unfortunately it ended in a solid
choke. We dug for a while with no
success! At the other end of the mega
passage a 30ft pitch dropped into a chamber, one end was choked and the other
end had a 20ft climb which was too tight. Rupert climbed several avens in the chamber, there was much loose
rock! (“BELOW”)
At the bottom of the first shaft (90ft) a squeeze led to a
50ft pitch, but was too tight at the bottom to continue.
When we reached the surface after five hours caving the
visibility had fallen to couple of yards due to fog. Back at the campsite we found the surveying
team; they had been delayed due to a mystery illness which Dany had caught the
night before in the bar of the Wiesberghaus'
In the evening back at the Wiesberghaus there were rumours
that 8104 (a Welsh find) was still going big and deep, so Tim, Rupert and I
organised to go on an early trip down the “Jager Hohle” (Hunter"s Hole).
The cave is situated fifteen minutes away from the
Wiesberghaus down towards Hallstat. To
find the cave we proceeded in a south easterly direction down the Wies Alm
Valley past two hunting huts. At the
third (south eastern) hut we turned left and the cave was roughly 30 metres
away in a small depression / gulley. The
cave entrance was quite small compared to the cave we did the day before
(4ft-6ft). The first ten minutes were
along a rifty passage, not hard, but it wrecks S.R.T. gear. At the end a small crawl led to the first
drop of 100ft in huge chamber. I had
been told the ropes were muddy (bloody hell! they were right!). The first 20ft was like a free fall due the
ropes being so slippery and I was pleased I had a Petzl Stop! The second pitch was not far from the
first. It was 180ft split into four
parts, and was very badly rigged! There
was more mud on it than the last and was soon known as "paranoia
pitch".
As we continued down, the pitches became smaller. At the bottom of the sixth pitch my carbide
light bust!!! The others were slightly
in front so I decided to solo out. On my
way up the sixth pitch the case for my Petzl light fell off, so I had to
re-descend to the bottom with my light fading every minute! My case was lying between some boulders in
the stream and I had to crawl in the water to retrieve it. I soloed out and met Bob, who was “superman”
of the trip (the only way to slow him down was with large tackle bags). At the bottom of the second pitch I found
that they had started to re-rig it in a different place to give a free hang of
180ft. The problem was they hadn't
finished and I had to climb the old rig, half way up the rope caught behind a
flake. When I was about 5ft below it~
the flake came away from the muddy wall and damaged the rope, the sheath was nearly
rubbed through. I reached the surface
around three oÂ’clock without further incidents.
A couple of days later I went for a walk further up the
valley from the “Jager Hohle”, I found a hole which was draughting strongly, it
was blocked with boulders appeared to become larger inside. I meant to return but didnÂ’t have time.
On Saturday seven of us went down to Hallstat and swam in
the lake. In the evening we had a meal
at the Diver's Bar. We had fairly cheap
meals compared to usual Austrian prices, well except for Dany.
In the morning we had breakfast at the Millerty station at
top of the cable car. The beer and food
was so cheap here it was unbelievable, beer costed 8 schillings which is less
than 40 pence.
Jager Hohle had now reached 22 pitches, one of the drops was
250ft, and the last was an un-descended 50ft. Most caving trips were taking about 18 to 20 hours and next year it will
be necessary to have an underground camp. The depth was now just over 500 metres and still going towards
Hirlatzhohle.
De-rigging the cave started on Monday morning with five cavers de-rigging up to the ninth pitch and through the rifts. Tomma and I set off a couple of hours later and helped to carry bags from the ninth. The second pitch was nearly impossible to descend as some fool held tied rock on the bottom of the rope. We took about and hour and a half to reach the tenth pitch, we arrived to see them exiting from the rifts. There was a sudden noise and the stream began to increase in size. I was amazed at the speed it rose compared to the Mendip streams, but luckily the ninth pitch stayed dry. After a brew we started to head out with a bag each. On the eighth pitch (10ft) my croll became jammed with mud and it took ages to free it. Everything was going quite smoothly and the flood had not caused any problems, except for on the fifth pitch, when another flood pulse came and Dave was soaked. We decided to tie all our bags on and pull them up the fifth pitch (90ft). This was not a good idea. It took ages with Dave performing acrobatics over the pitch.
At the second shaft Dany had rigged it to haul bags, he had
come in a couple of hours after Tomma and myself. He told us that he had been delayed due to
two huge thunder storms. The last two
pitches took hours. The M.U.S.S. group
were supposed to give us a hand from the second pitch, hauling bags up, but
they were sitting out the flood in another cave. After half an hour I was freezing, so I
started out but had to wait at the bottom of the first pitch. While we waited Dave decided to have some
snackertacks (lollypops, wine gums etc.) but instead he nearly blew himself
up! He had put his head down towards the
B.D.H. container to see what was inside and his carbide ignited the gas stove
which had been leaking. We eventually
reached the surface in the early hours of Tuesday after a ten hour caving
trip. The walk back was a slog but it
had stopped raining and I managed to get a drink at the Wiesberghaus. We had left the bags at the top of the first
pitch, ready for the next day. After
coming out we thought we might have to do a cave rescue. The M.U.S.S cave group were still down their
cave. The problem was that nobody knew
exactly where this was! Then a few
lights could be seen in the distance, they had been delayed as they had had to
sit out the flood.
The de-rigging was completed the following day with help
from the M.U.S.S group and only took about 45 minutes.
It was now Wednesday and we had to start packing our gear to
come home to great British weather! In
the evening there was a great Piss Up!! Tim Allen brought his ghetto blaster and there were two barrels of
beer. A bunch of Polish cavers had
arrived for 5 weeks.
On Thursday we finished packing and then left for home on
Friday morning. At
Thank you to everyone who organised the
Alan Turner.
The
Editor: Dave Turner
The views expressed by contributors to the Belfry Bulletin, including those of club officers are not necessarily the views of the committee of the Bristol Exploration Club, or the editor, unless so stated. The Editor cannot guarantee the accuracy of information contained in contributed matter as it cannot normally be checked in the time at his disposal
Swildons and Eastwater being so for some time. A lot of work is going on behind the scenes to try and resolve the problem to everyoneÂ’s satisfaction - rather a hard task!
These have to be sent to the Secretary by 6th September - see Bob's notes on page 2. Last year the committee had to be formed at the AGM as there were only 5 members standing and all of those were automatically nominated as they were already on the committee. LetÂ’s see if we can do better this year.
Don't forget the Members' Weekend on the 22/23 August. With luck this BB should reach you before then, if not then no doubt you went and heard all the news of the BEC's exploits in Austria as well as drinking the barrel (5) dry whilst working on the Belfry.
The AGM of the BEC will be held at The Belfry on Saturday, 4th October at 10.30am prompt.
You are reminded that nominations for the 1986-7 committee must be submitted in writing to the Secretary no later than 6th September 1986. All nominations must have a proposer and seconder. Present members of the committee are nominated automatically if they wish to stand for re-election.
The annual dinner will be held at The Caveman Restaurant,
Cheddar on Saturday, 4th October at 7.30pm for 8.00pm. The cost will be ÂŁ10 per head including
wine. There is a choice of menu, meat or
poultry! Full menu will be published in
the next BB. Tickets are available from
Brian Workman, Meadow View, Little London, Oakhill,
This year’s event took the form of a sedan chair race. With a yell of "Everything to excess!” eight rather Victorian BEC undertakers ran, crawled, and dived around a particularly nastily contrived MNRC ‘course’, portering their sedan hurst “a la Jarratt”. Fending off all the opposition, the BEC duly won the day again. (The 'Weesex' duly came last!). This was followed by much feasting and drinking and an outstanding performance by the BEC sofa rugby team, once they had decided upon the correct end to aim for. The winners of this trophy by tradition provided next year's challenge - any ideas?
The club dig at Wigmore Swallet is being carried on by a few of the brave most weeks, midweek as well as weekends~ and progress is being made. The club has purchased a number of “Acro” type trench props to try and stop the regular occurrence of the roof becoming intimate with the floor.
Our best wishes to go with the
Bob Cork
There are so few cavers in
A quick phone call to Chris and Pam Pugsley in Greymouth gave us shelter from the rain and our first caving in Buller.
The west coast of South Island is one of the wettest, most
rugged areas of
The first cave that we looked at in the region was
Outside the cave we scrambled down the river's edge, where
the cave stream resurged beneath enormous blocks. The rain had finally ceased and as we stood
at the edge of the river we toyed with the idea of crossing it, to walk back on
the far side (Kiwis have a serendipity attitude to river crossings, developed
through their vast numbers of streams and their relative lack of bridges). Within minutes, however, the river changed to
a swirling brown, rapidly increasing in depth and speed. Needless to say, we stuck to the bank we were
already on for the return. At the “dry”
oxbow we watched the river overflow, and were quietly thankful that we were not
underground.
North-east of Karamea we grossly maltreated our overloaded
Fiat 127 taking it over rough, steep, winding forest tracks to reach the
Oparara Arch. At one place we wisely
waited in a side track while several tonnes of forest hurtled by on a truck at
some ludicrous speed. The
Much lower down the river we walked along an old gold mining track, traversing high above the water on a narrow ledge cut into the precipitous cliffs, to reach Cave Creek. Here, half hidden up in the bush and silver beech forest are a number of short caves, including two through trips. One of these, in a damp gully, carries a deep, dark, slow-flowing stream. The other has a more lively series of trickling cascades under many stalactites and glow-worms. A third cave dropped rapidly from its sizable entrance, over boulders to suddenly diminish to a grovel.
All of these caves we had done in ordinary walking
gear. For our next trip we needed full
caving kit, plus SRT gear. Our
introduction was a beekeeper (Owen Dennis) in Waimangaroa, near
These three shafts were really a diversion, an attempt to avoid a huge, dangerously and loosely poised boulder in the fourth shaft., to which we now turned our attention. Using the same tree belay we abseiled down to a deeper part of the doline, and then down into a shaft, 10m in earth, rotting leaves and loose blocks, then a steep slippery 10m mud slope brought us to the floor, a wide expanse of gravel and cobbles. To one side a window looked into a daylight shaft blowing a cool draught from the confined depths, at least another 5m below our floor. A larger window in the opposite wall of the main shaft looked into another passage. Yet a third passage, this with a good cool outwards draught, led straight ahead. About 20m along here, clambering amongst earthy, loose boulders, we descended to a trickle of a stream. Unfortunately further boulders made the route impenetrable at this level. Up and down, over and around the boulders brought us after 50m to the 'Henry' apparently, supported on a pin-point of rock and little else. Not wishing to go near it I looked carefully at all the other ridiculous possibilities of reaching the obvious passage above the boulder, but nothing went. Eventually, someone, perhaps less experienced than me in the art of self-preservation, kicked the offending boulder's only support. Not a breath, not a sound, not a heart beat. The 'Henry' withstood another kick and another. Safe as houses - indeed, safer than some! Squeezing between the 'Henry' and the wall I succeeded at the second attempt, after much thrutching and no technique, in safely reaching the top. The ideal 'eyehole', in which I rigged a tape for the others and for my return journey, broke immediately when I put a strain on it, so I was left to explore on my own,
A 10m long chamber, whose boulder floor was layered with an earthy veneer, had two ways on. One seemed to head back towards the entrance doline complex, while the other, a walking sized rift, carried the draught and headed into the hill. After a few easily crossed hollows in the earthy floor I reached a pitch requiring tackle. My carbide began to fade at this moment too - a suitable point to return.
Out of the cave, and the doline de-tackled, dusk was fast approaching, so we rushed back through the bush in record time, in spite of briefly losing our way in the gloom a couple of times. We reached the cars in the dark, to the sound of owls starting their nightly chorus.
So, although a crucial bit of a cave had been pushed and overcome, we only had a few tens of metres to our credit. With so few cavers in Buller, with the cave regions away from the centres of population, and with cave sites being guarded by so many miles of dense bush, detailed knowledge of cave systems, development and hydrology will take decades.
Graham Wilton-Jones
During a two weeks motoring holiday around the Alps earlier
this year Jane and I visited eight assorted
Situated 500m vest of the attractive riverside town of
Situated 1km SE of Laichingen and 24kms NW of
While en route to the Weisberghaus to prepare things for the
coming BEC Expedition we visited these superb caves (at childrenÂ’s prices and
with a tree beer thrown in thanks to a chance meeting with Siegfried Gemsjager,
show cave manager and an old friend of the club). Situated 3km SE of Obertraun and reached by
cable-car these are two of
The ice cave is extremely well lit and presented, with the tourist path in places cut through the massive ice formations making for spectacular views. The trip covers 820m, taking 45mins to pass through the huge chambers and galleries. The system was explored in 1910 and is over 2kms long.
Contrasting with this, and on the opposite side of the cable car station, is the vast Mammuthohle - over 35kms long and one of the world's deepest systems. It will hopefully get even longer when connected to the 47km Hirlatzhohle which has recently been pushed to within some 500m of Mammut. With not an ice formation in sight and few pretties, the cave owes its attraction to the huge main passage of the Paleotraun, to several mega chambers and to the high rift, which soar up above the head of the visitor. It takes from 30-90mins to see the cave, depending on the size of the party. Unfortunately, if visited after the ice cave, it can be a bit disappointing due to its barren nature.
Yet again, an excellent caving museum with an unbelievable three-dimensional model of the Mammuthohle can be visited. Dummy cavers in old and new styles of equipment hang from the ceiling and a slide show of the local caves and cavers runs in an adjoining room. Well worth a visit.
Probably one of the largest show caves in the world with regard to passage size and certainly one of the most impressive.
A footpath from the village ascends a huge doline with the
entrance to an artificial tunnel at its base. This is followed into the hill to reach a series of fantastically
decorated chambers, gradually increasing in size until the roar of the river
Reka is heard ahead. Due to some adroit
manipulation of the lights by the guide, the visitor is suddenly amazed to find
himself some 70m above the floor of a huge, misty river passage, on a narrow
path cut into the cave wall. The path
then descends to a bridge 50 above the river and follows the hall, halfway up,
to emerge 45mins later at the bottom of a gigantic pothole. This is all real Mulu stuff and completely
mind blowing, the only drawback being the stink of the polluted river 50m
below. The Reka sumps in the cave to
resurge near
Famous as the site of the Predjamski Grad - a Renaissance castle built under the vast cave mouth where the remains of the, robber baron Erasmus's fortress stand. The 6km of decorated stream cave below the castle are not yet open to tourists but the building itself, and the dry upper levels of the cave (Erazmova Jama) are well worth a visit - especially in a raging thunderstorm as occurred on our visit, adding much to the Dracula-like atmosphere of the place.
8km NW of Postojna, an hour or so is sufficient to visit the
castle and cave.
Predjama
One of the earliest und most famous tourist caves in the world, it is impossible to miss! Twenty one MILLION visitors at the last count, it felt as if they'd doubled that number on our trip: With electric trains transporting hordes of assorted punters into the cave at half-hourly intervals and guides leading throngs of every nationality around the walking parts it is an experience to be savoured – once! Never again will you moan about queues at the "'twenty" or how much money they are raking in at Gough’s. At £6 a head one gets the impression that Postojna is the mainstay of the Yugoslavian economy. (Eat your hearts out Chris and Sandra!).
We waited in a milling crowd for about an hour to get into the cave. This was enlivened by an ancient, eccentric English lady pushing her way to the front of the crowd.
Once aboard the train life becomes most exciting as it hurtles through hundreds of feet of profusely decorated passages and chambers with the formations being of an overall matt black hue. This is due to a soot layer dating from the last war when Yugoslavian patriots set fire to a German underground fuel store. One bright spot en route is the Conference Chamber, lit by huge electric chandeliers. Just the job for Gour Hall eh, Butch?
The train eventually halts in a large chamber where everyone gathers at the sign of their chosen language. From here the guides escort the vast parties along a figure of eight route through superbly decorated galleries full of clean and glittering stal. An artificial pool contains several of the famous Proteus Anguinus blind cave salamanders. The tour ends at the Concert Chamber, complete with bar and souvenir shop and the railway station for the trip out. Before leaving the cave a section of the large river passage is visited. One emerges from the experience with a profound sense of wonder at the mysteries of the underworld and a desperate desire to go somewhere for a quiet drink!
A fairly uninspiring system of smallish passages with a few formations, going steeply up-dip from the spectacular resurgence. The first and last sections ofthe tourist route are the most impressive due to the large volume of stream water thundering away only inches from the pathways. The trip covers 900m and takes about an hour. Again, an excellent caving museum can be visited near the entrance.
Tony Jarratt, ,June 1986.
What with green holes, brown holes and the possibility of a speleological equivalent of a black hole it was quite a colourful trip. We discovered that an overdraft facility is useful nowadays if you want to buy a round of Guinness. Martyn Grass avoided being roped into the Gay Caving Association (no letters please if there really is one) and kept us brilliantly entertained for the week. We even went caving.
The trip was originally conceived by myself as an exploratory visit to the "Green Holes" of Doolin. Martyn came up with a cottage so the party expanded to eventually include Martyn, Chris Smart and Karen, Angie and myself, Rick Stanton (ex-Cerberus) and Mark Vinall (who might be a PCG member) plus Martyn's Alsatian Hannah.
Our arrival in
Day one saw us all down Cullaun 2 where some people descended the final pitch. Photographic disaster one came, when part of my tripod decided to go back down the pitch without me. The trip out consisted of my trying to move fast enough to catch somebody who would pose for a picture. Outside the cave a surreal situation occurred when I was asked to pose with Pete Glanville for a picture (no relation). I would have thought one was enough.
The sea looked rough the next day so Plan B was put into
action. This invclved driving round the
Ennis area trying to find caves with sumps to dive using Self's guide
book. After a short detour up a rough
track (even Volvos can ground) we found the first cave Pollaphuca (worth
pronouncing with an "f" and "ucca") not far from a quiet
lane. The entrance was one of several
well watered depressions. The whole
party of seven entered the cave armed to the teeth with ropes diving bottles
and of course my camera; this was a mistake. In the lead I thought of
Keeping our mud stained wetsuits on we headed off for our
next venue Poulnagolloor which sounded nicer and prettier. Unfortunately the directions were just a
little vague and five wet suited characters could be seen ranging some very
un-speleological meadows staring the wildlife and drawing a big blank. Wearing my widest smile I hailed a passing
cyclist and asked the way to the nearest cave. Directions took us to some lads repairing a motorcycle which they
promptly leapt on to show us the way. We
stopped by one of those ubiquitous Irish bungalows under construction and
Martyn took the opportunity to carry out a timber raid to keep the cottage fires
burning. The cave itself was remarkably
pleasant and reminiscent of some Welsh caves. A 2 metre by 5 metre joint controlled passage led as a pleasant stroll
through some ducks to what Martyn authoritatively declared was the sump pool. Rick kitted up and plunged off into the
darker recesses of the "sump". A watery, "I think you might as well come through" was heard
and we followed to emerge in a large passage and meet the sump proper. Rick dived passing one airbell and then the
bubble, and splashing faded to the slap of water on rock. More noise and he was back. "What. have you found?" we asked
excitedly. "Goes to a
streamway" he muttered laconically "only ten metres long". Grabbing one of his bottles a valve and my
camera I plunged into the sump with him. We emerged in a foam covered pool into which splashed a roaring stream,
a complete contrast to the still dark waters on the other side. De-kitting we crawled off. We knew no big finds were likely as the stream
comes from a very close sink. However
any virgin cave is always exciting. After a couple of bedding crawls and a sort of duck up a cascade I left
Rick to force a squeeze up through boulders. Instead I found an attractively decorated oxbow which bypassed some of
the grovels in the stream. Rick returned
and after a brief photo call we made our way back through the sump. After a wash off during which I found an
unusual bit of flood debris - a school textbook on Greek - we psyched ourselves
up for the third sump of the day.
After a seemingly endless drive through Ennis and down miles of long straight roads we arrived at the grounds of Kiltanon House, one of those places which over here would be a stately home and over there is a sinister ruin. Tomeens turned out to be somewhere you can hardly believe is real. A fairly large river has hit a small limestone ridge and bored its way through just below the surface. The impressive 6 metre by 6 metre passage has now been penetrated by a series of surface collapses making it almost a case of caving without lights. However wetsuits were pretty essential as there were a number of deep pools. In higher water conditions it would be quite possible to canoe through the whole system. The exotic feel of the place was heightened by the strands of ivy hanging down from the collapse entrances. It is a magnificent place.
We made the usual visit to OÂ’ConnorÂ’s in the evening met up
with Brian Judd and arranged a dive in the Green Holes the next day. The keen team went down Pollnagree whilst
Angie Rick and I opted for a walk up
The following day most of the party went to Aillwee after Rick had heard the final sump had not been pushed conclusively. Angie and I went for a stroll down near Polisallagh the weather being too nice in our opinion to go caving and we had been into Aillwee before. We had an encounter with the LADS who had the leprechaun-like habit of appearing from or disappearing into holes in the ground usually waving crowbars. For the week that we were there they were always just on the edge of a breakthrough somewhere; they made it after we had left. Meanwhile back at Aillwee the cavers and divers were shovelling in free food as fast as they could which is where we caught up with them. Rick having done his bit for the day declined to dive so Mark Brian and I met up at Doolin for the second green hole assault. Unfortunately the tide was higher and a heavy swell was breaking when we arrived. Undaunted Mark demonstrated how safe it all was by leaping into the pounding waves and getting himself chucked out again. We were not entirely convinced but plunged in with Brian, not one of the largest of chaps, sporting two 72 cu. ft. bottles suspended from his waist. Once in it was every man for himself as I headed for the only green hole I hadn't seen this time armed with my trusty camera. On the way back I encountered some legs sticking out of another hole. Tugging the fins revealed a firmly attached Mark who proceeded to scribbled frenziedly on his slate "Brian's gone in" which I read as "Brian's going in?" As I had entered the water with Brian I concluded he had surfaced so dragged Mark off back to the surface. Meanwhile Brian emerged from the cave. Back on the land we could see BrianÂ’s head bobbing about amongst the waves as he plodded shore wards. We hauled him out 72's and all.
The next day was the great Anglo-Irish Expedition to Poll na g Ceim which is a story in itself. Whilst Mark Rick and I assisted in our various ways Angie Chris Karen and Martyn got drunk at O'Donoghues - only open after 2 pm if you plan on ever going there. They all learnt something interesting about German women, that you need Arabian sun tan oil for the sun traps of Ballyryan (watch out for the pine martens) and that if you order crocodile sandwiches you should make it snappy. Mark and I returned to find everybody in a very gay mood which culminated in Hannah getting so excited she bit Martyn in the buttocks whilst he was assaulting Angie. This was just a prelude to what happened in Sean OÂ’ConnorÂ’s restaurant with Rory and the German waitress.
On our penultimate day we said our farewells to Martyn Chris
and Karen and the remaining four of us went to Fanore to get some air off John
McNamara. John handed us the keys to the
compressor shed and told us to get on with it. Half an hour and three partially dislocated shoulders late we found the
third lever - the one that actually allows you to crank the compressor
successfully. Bottles filled, it was
back to say goodbye to M C and K again. Down at Doolin we were abandoned by Angie who declared diving in the
swell was foolhardy. Watching the waves
spraying 2 metres above our heads I wondered if she was right. Regardless we plunged in and lost Rick this
time. Whilst he wound up going into the
harbour Mark and I headed for
Our final day dawned strangely quiet (Martyn had gone) as we
prepared to visit
On the day we had to leave Rick discovered I hadn't repaired my dry suit properly by borrowing it and using it. He also rescued the line reel from Harbour Hole on a very pleasant dive in perfect conditions with Mark. I stood on the surface cursing the cold I was nurturing.
All in all a good trip. Lots of potential and anybody who says Clare is boring caving ought to try Poll na g Ceim.
Pete Glanville
Until very recently Irish cave exploration, particularly in
Originally dug by Colin Bunce (ex-Aberystwyth U.C.C.) B5a was a small choked hole near an active swallet. It was excavated to reveal a pitch reached only after a very tight squeeze had been passed (since fortunately by-passed). The pitch was only 4 metres deep and led into a small circular chamber. At the far end was a distinct surprise - the deepest underground pitch in Clare. This magnificent semi-circular shaft dropped a free-hanging 31 metres to a large ledge and a further series of shorter pitches past an inlet passage to a final rather grotty sump at the depth of 74 metres.
At this point a digression is worth while. Some of you may have been at a BCRA
conference a few years ago when Oliver Lloyd and Charlie Self presented their
paper on the Balliny depression. This
paper was stimulated by discoveries a few years earlier in Poliballiny a system
only a kilometre from B5a. Pollballiny
had a foul reputation for many years as being a long rather monotonous passage
with much stooping and crawling which led to a sump. When the "sump" was visited in the
late '70's it was found to be only a very wet crawl and the cave was pushed
considerably further down some much roomier passage through a rather nasty
choke to a sharp crawl. At the end of
this the explorers were staggered to find themselves in an enormous passage
unlike anything normally seen in
Poll na g Ceim (cave of the steps) as B5a was dubbed offered
a new route into the Balliny system. It
lies on a fault line which intersects the depression and approaches from the
opposite direction to Pollballiny. With
all to play for, the sump at the bottom of Poll na g Ceim had to be
tackled. Sumps in caves in that part of
In Pollnagame Five the fun started. After 30 metres in a rift passage an 8 metre pitch was found and Brian had to return.
Reinforcements were now needed - as was tackle. This was never going to be an easy task. In early March the Judd, Scott and Fogg team arrived at sump four ready for a big assault. Unfortunately Sump four proved to be a tackle-eater and hung onto the bag containing bolting kit and SRT gear. The rope got through so the team scrambled down the 8 metre pitch but were thwarted after 45 metres by another pitch which just could not be climbed using hand line tactics. At that point the cave was 26 metres high but only 75 centimetres wide and dropping steeply.
A month later Rick Stanton, myself, Mark Vinall and co.
arrived in
Mark Rick and I arrived at Brian's house at the appointed hour to find preparations still going on. After a lot of idle chat we were about to head off for the cave when Brian asked where my rocket tube was. It appeared they assumed I was bringing it for the molephone. A twenty minute there-and-back dash from Kilmoon East to Kilshanny produced the rocket tube and it seemed like we were ready to leave. Halfway to the cave Brian stopped his car to chat to a neighbour. Only a few yards behind I ploughed into the back of BrianÂ’s car turning his tow bar into a wishbone. My Volvo looked singularly unaffected apart from a funny whirring noise which turned out to be a headlight wiper motor jamming. We all climbed back in and set off again. All were changing near the cave entrance when Brian announced he had left his helmet and lamp at home. Colin disappeared gnashing his teeth. Two of the Burren Crawlers went off and rigged the cave.
Once underground Brian became Action Man, sorting out the rigging and taking firm charge of the proceedings. This was as just as well because the over enthusiastic pitch riggers had gone in for a bit of overkill with the rope deviations. Rick Stanton nearly came to grief when one of the deviation belays to allowed him down a 4 metres pitch after coming unstuck from the wall. At the sump Rick kitted and dived whilst Brian reported to the surface. A swish of bubbles and he, too, was gone. Mark, myself, Gerry and Ben (the two Burren Crawlers) headed slowly out as I took photographs. Back on the surface we changed and went to see how things were going on underground. Halfway between the Balliny Depression and the entrance to Pollnagame Rick and Brian radioed in that they were about to forge into the unknown. I witnessed a new spectator sport above ground caving via the mole phone!
After passing the last pitch of 8 metres they traversed high up along a narrow rift until they met a big black space. A bolt was placed and the pitch descended 7 metres to a ledge and a further drop of 10 metres into a much larger passage. This was a superb canyon 3 metres wide and 20 metres high which led to a duck under a huge block. An inlet could be seen cascading in from high in the roof. Sadly soon after the roof of the passage descended into the almost inevitable sump 5, 128 metres below the entrance but 114 metres above the sea and 78 metres, below the terminus of Pollballiny. The Balliny saga is not yet ended. After a resuscitating meal from a HOT CAN the explorers made the long 3 hour Journey out, Rick having to pass sump four 3 times to retrieve a tackle bag. Colin Bunce and Dave Gibson came in to help them de-tackle before they returned to Brian's home and a welcome meal and shower. Watch this space.
Peter Glanvill May 1986
Pollnagame five has been revisited by Tim Fogg and Brian Judd. The aim was to dive sump five but at the final pitch a bottle was dropped. It landed next to Tim Fogg the pillar valve bent at 45 degrees. Tim has lost enthusiasm for Pollnagame.
by Mark Lumley.
Having seen the Grade 5c survey of the Hard Rock Extensions,
it became apparent to the Crew that the latest Westerly breakthrough from
At 9.30 in the evening of 27th June, Steve Allen and I headed into Daren to check out the possibility of finding the NNW continuation. We were at camp by 12.30, had a meal and headed into Hard Rock. Our first impression of the North wall of Big Passage was that it didn't show much promise. Steve started work at some boulders in one corner while I dug a low, sandy arch. I soon joined him though, when a void was revealed through a small hole in the floor. An hour later we had dug this wide enough for Steve to get through into a low bedding plane six feet below. This contained some fine crystal but choked after 10 metres. Steve dug through the choke in about an hour while I gardened my way through behind.
We came up into a 1.5m - 2m high x 10m wide, phreatic passage with a sandy, crystal clustered roof. Unfortunately this stopped at another collapse after 30 metres. We knew the nature of the passage now and dug down in the floor. Sure enough a hole, appeared and another low, unstable bedding. I pushed a way in for 5m, wincing as each boulder moved revealed another section of hairy, 'hanging death' roof. Steve, dug the next 5m, howling at one stage as a moved boulder committed him to going forward.
Finally, he was through into a passage continuation of about 10m. It was about 8.00 am and we were worn out. I had a look at the next choke and ten minutes later I broke through into the most magnificent crystal passage I have ever seen. The dimensions were much the same as before but this time we crawled for about 80m, to the next choke. Throughout the length of the crawl the roof is literally covered in clusters of crystal needles from about 1" to 3" long. The floor is sand and needles, the latter seemed to get inside our clothes at just about every move, sticking into knees, neck and elbows and earning the place the name 'Acupuncture Passage'.
The fifth boulder choke was dug for 30 minutes and looked very promising but the two of us were knackered so we headed back to camp, had a meal and left the cave after a non-stop 21 hour trip, to the drunken delights of the Chelsea Summer Barbecue.
Since the visit to Rock Dove Cave at Berry Head in 1983 I have some done some more work in the area, in the last few months combining forces with Chris Proctor. I will initially describe the diving work done on the south side of Berry Head.
In my previous article on Rock Dove Cave I wrote that little
of great significance has been found underwater up to that time. Soon after this I began to find submarine
caves! A map and descriptions of some of
the sites can be seen in CDG N/L No. 70 (January 1984). However it was in the summer of 1984 that a
really interesting fins wad made which confirmed that
Only a few yards from this so far unnamed cave is
Apart from
We now move to the north side of Berry Head and work
there. It was after contacting Chris
Proctor on another matter that we met up one afternoon to visit
Since then Bryan Johnson and myself have surveyed Garfish
which was fun as the tide started to come in whilst we were doing it. The final legs were partly guesstimated. During the surveying Brian climbed the
ascending tube to a point where daylight was visible and he has found the
corresponding hole in the quarry floor on a subsequent trip – a dry way in may
be feasible.
Horfield,
23-5-86
Dear Sir,
SSSIÂ’s on the Mendip Hills, Somerset
In the Course of an interesting evening spent at Hunters' lodge Inn, Priddy, on 22/5/86, I was acquainted with the broad aspects of the current turmoil surrounding the issue to landowners of a document or letter setting out conditions and qualifications regarding agricultural and other activities which might be deemed by the Nature Conservancy Council to threaten the subterranean Sites of Special Scientific Interest.
Without having seen the N.C.C. letter I am unable to comment upon it. It seems to have irritated the farming community. In particular, according to Mr. Roger Dors of Hunters' Lodge Inn, it may viewed as unwarranted interference with the" legal rights of freeholders. "
Now I can well understand Mr. Dors' personal concern, for the follow reasons:
1) The only significant cave system so far known to
exist under Mr. Dors' land is HUNTERÂ’S HOLE, a straightforward, moderately
important site which appears to be of no more scientific value than hundreds of
other minor caves and potholes in the
2) Even when considered as a "sporting/leisure" site, HUNTERÂ’S HOLE, whilst not irrelevant, is as noted above of no more than moderate importance. Its loss as a caving place, if Mr. Dors were to destroy it in some way, whilst regrettable, would not, I think, create a furore throughout the Mendip caving or scientific fraternity.
3) Mr. Dors is in a unique position in respect of Mendip caving information and rapport. He has been what cavers would call an exemplary cave owner, he is not likely to pollute HUNTERS' HOLE by draining or tipping waste into it, neither will he be inclined to dispose of used motor vehicles or other trash (something which cannot be said of Bristol Waterworks Company, for example, or some other cave-owners), in the doline which constitutes the entrance.
Nevertheless, there are dismaying aspects of the Mendip "reaction" to NCC strictures. "These deserve mention, especially as the major caving clubs on the Mendip Hills are, overtly, taking the side of the landowners. The decision of the caving clubs to do so is probably a mistake.
A designated Site of Special Scientific Interest should be what it purports to be - something of outstanding importance biologically, geomorphologically, whatever. (If the NCC has designated sites on the basis of ill-informed non-specialist opinion, then the NCC is either foolish or under-staffed - they'd probably claim the latter, with some justification). Granted that an SSSI is correctly designated, then the interests of the landowner must be subordinate to the interests of the community, notwithstanding personal disadvantage. A correctly designated SSSI represents, often, not merely a preservable curio or asset, but something unknown elsewhere something irreplaceable. The SSSI is the jewel in the conservational crown, if such analogy be permitted. It is imperative that SSSI designation be accurate in this respect; and it is essential that protection to the SSSIs and their contents be provided and where necessary enforced. Any action by the Nature Conservancy Council to these ends has to be welcomed, if not by all formers and owners then at least by those of us who regard the surviving pockets of British wilderness as valuable. I had assumed that cavers were of similar persuasion.
My experience of landowners on the Mendip Hills suggests to
me that they are sympathetic to responsible visitors/trespassers and to that
which exists on or under the land. This
is not so everywhere. There have been
serious transgressions of the Wildlife & Countryside Act 1981: a large
number of SSSIs have been lost and damaged. Magistrates have declined, for the most part, to convict offenders
(mostly members of the farming community or unscrupulous developers such as at
Udden's Heath in
The decision taken by, or on behalf of, the caving community, albeit a pragmatism well-appreciated by those who live on the Mendip Hills, is dubious in this: that it results directly from the power of a landowner to refuse access to a cave. In general, such power is, on Mendip, never exercised. The landowners and tenant farmers controlling the major sites are amenable to reasonable requests for access - indeed, I have thought for many years that they were more amenable than caving clubs and councils, on balance. Certainly I have had very few problems, even holding the views which I do, except where a caving organisation was involved. I do not say that is because caving interests are involved there might have been access worries anyway owing, say, to the pressure of numbers of caving parties - but it's how I've found it. I always, where possible, prefer to deal with the owner of the land or cave. It is much more simple and does not lead to aggression. There are, however, instances in which it becomes a moral obligation to understand what is at stake; the short-term benefits must not be permitted to outweigh the possibility that natural habitats will be destroyed or so reduced as to be worthless. It is, in part, the duty of NCC and their like to ensure this. It is also our duty as cavers and as farmers. We should all think on that.
yours etc
(Bob Lewis) WCC; SVCC.
The
Editor: Dave Turner
My apologises for the lateness of this B.B. - I'll try not to let it happen again! Dave
Hon. Sec. Bob Cork
Treasurer Mike
(Trebor)
Caving Sec. Mark Lumley
Hut Warden Tony Jarratt
Tackle Master Steve Milner
B.B. Editor Dave Turner
Hut Engineer Dany Bradshaw
Membership Sec. Brian Workman
Andy
Sparrow
Phil
Romford
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At a meeting of the Council of Southern caving Clubs held on 29th November, Tim Large made the statement that, as of that afternoon, Swildons, Eastwater and Hunter's Hole would be reopened to cavers. The usual courtesy visit to the Landowner is still required. This does not apply to either Nine Barrows or Sludge Pit, these caves are still closed - please respect this as negotiations are still in hand.
As in time gone past, the Shepton provided us with the usual eveningÂ’s entertainment. After each mortal had had their fill of the excellent fare they endeavoured to pass on their leftovers to the adjacent tables before the 'holier than thou' "I don't throw food about" Alan Butcher could collect them in black dustbin liners to be distributed amongst the third world people of Upper Pitts.
Bob Cork
Following the hive of activity down CuthbertÂ’s over a year ago to pump out Sump 2, little has been done to clear up the mess. I have therefore started a number of cleaning up trips to tidy up the cave from Stal pitch to Sump 2 in particular. Assorted rubbish is in abundance, ranging from plastic bags to asbestos pipes to traffic cones. The plug to the big dam by Sump 2 is also blocked and further efforts will be made to un-jam it, necessitating ram-rodding under five feet of water. The entrance pipe has also been blocked recently but Pat Cronin and I rodded that through not too long ago. If anyone has a mind to, on a trip to the sump 1 or 2 region could they bring out an article of rubbish. Even a carry half way out would be a help.
Trebor
Note: Cuthberts Leaders meeting on 17th January in the back room of The Hunter's at 7pm. (Ed)
NHASA in their usual thorough way have at last re-entered the chamber discovered and then abandoned 2 years ago. Working on the principle that it took hundreds of thousands of years for the cave to form, a few years spent in digging and shoring a new shaft is of minor consequence - anyway, if it goes we may have to move our attention to some less desirable site, i.e. further from the Hunter's. The next task is to remove all the poly bags of spoil carefully stacked out of the way two years ago.
Dave Turner
Please contact the person mentioned for further details etc.
New Year W/E Dan-yr-ogof (Mac)
Jan-24 Agen Allwedd * (Mark)
Feb Lakes Week (Tim L)
Mar 14/15 Wigmore Dig (Mark)
Easter W/E Agen Allwedd * Daren Cilau (Mark)
May-02 Penyghent
Pot * (Mark)
May 16/17 Craig an Ffynnon; OFD 1 (Mark)
May 30/31 Bowery Corner Swallet; Wigmore W/E (Mark)
Jun 13/14 Pippikin Pot * ; Top Sink * (Mark)
Jun27/28 Daren Cilau W/E (Mark)
Jul 4/5 Lost
Johns * ; Birks Fell Cave * (Mark)
Jul-18 Bristol
Meet (Steve)
August Austria
(Mark)
Aug 29/30 Gower W/E (Mark)
Sep 12/13 Members W/E and Brewery Corner or Wigmore (whichever's gone!) (Mark)
* Permits applied for though not yet confirmed.
Mark 26/11/86
17/18 Jan Members weekend at the Belfry - Barrel(s) and auction/raffle of Lead Acid Cell and other attractions
17 Jan CuthbertÂ’s leaders meeting, back room of The Hunters at 7pm.
There have been two pushing trips down Daren, since the last B.B. The first on October 4th-5th, resulted in a 70 metre extension off Terrapin North which was tight for most of its length. We had to dig past about six squeezes. The routine was generally that Andy Cave and Barbara would dig the passage just big enough to get through then one of them would concentrate on the next obstacle while the other would turn around and help me dig the previous constriction large enough to get myself through; how embarrassing. This passage terminated in a small chamber with a tight rift taking a strong draught.
On the 8th-9th November, a twelve strong team concentrated in shifts on trying to force a way up through the terminal boulder choke at 12 O'clock High. This was made a little safer by the use of a 20ft chimney sweeping pole brought in by Tim Allen one of the Naree River Crew. After a night and day of boulder prodding and ducking (a great 1axative!) we were in 5 metres and up 6m above the constriction into a small boulder chamber draughting strongly upwards. This will have to be banged.
On the same trip, Andy Cave and I pushed the Terminal Choke in Acupuncture Passage for about 2 metres. This is in an area of shatter with no airspace but a strong draught passing through. To date we have dug about 15 metres through this, the floor is rising and we hope to be through on our next trip.
The weekend was polished off nicely with a piss-up and firework display at the Hard Rock Cafe.
The personnel of the digging team has changed dramatically. There were about seven or eight people from Cardiff University, three from the Northern Caving Club. Andy Cave and I were the only representatives of the B.E.C. A bit of help from club members would be much appreciated before we lose any 1egitmate claim to a Daren-Aggy connection. Camping trips next year will be on the second weekend of every month.
We also propose to dig the end of Midnight Passage in Agen Allwedd, just off the second boulder choke as this looks like a probable point for a connection from Hard Rock-more details in the next B.B.
Mark Lumley.
This summer the Glanville family decided to take a holiday in France again but without going in the company of others or as part of an expedition. Initially we had planned to spend a few days near the Ardeche gorge and then move on to the Verdon Gorge which we had visited with Ken Gregory last year. Rick Stanton had visited the Ardeche area in the past and recommended it. After a two day drive from Cherbourg we arrived at Vallon Pont d'Arc which lies at the head of the gorge. We then set about finding a camp site which didn't take very long in fact.
The Ardeche river which has formed the gorge runs west to East debouching into the Rhone near Bourg St. Andeol. It lies not far to the north of Avignon. The gorge is around 150 metres deep and has many deep meanders with a gigantic natural arch, the Pont d'Arc, forming a natural gateway to the gorge. The arch was formed when the river cut through the narrow spur on a particular sharp meander. The river has many rapid sections which makes it an attraction for canoeists of all ages as none of the rough sections are too difficult or dangerous to pass. In summer the place is literally swarming with canoeists and places to hire them.
The Ardeche has a reputation of being one of the most dramatically flood-responsive rivers in France and tide marks in the gorge testify to this. At certain times of the year the region is prey to particularly violent thunderstorms which can, make the gorge extremely dangerous. Apart from the usual above ground feeders the gorge is well provided by resurgence caves which drain the extensive plateaux on each side of the gorge. Some of the longest cave systems in France lie in the immediate vicinity of the gorge and all the water drains there. To give you an idea of how many caves there are in the area, it supports a flourishing "have a go at speleology" industry for the tourists.
Apart from the sporting caves there are probably more show caves in this area than in the whole of England. For most of the rest of this article I will be describing the show caves we visited. As the holiday progressed Sally, my eldest daughter, was heard to moan "not another cave" whilst Philippa, my youngest, seemed to liven up underground and become embarrassingly noisy. The first cave we looked at was right on the road side between Vallon Pont d'Arc and the Pont d'Arc itself. The entrance was in a cafe and looked like the way into the cellar! Price to get in was 10 francs - about a pound sterling. The entrance passage generated a strong cold draught but when we descended this proved to be coming from a large electric fan in the centre of the passage! The descent of an excavated tunnel (the cave was entered originally from above) led under an arch into a chamber with anastomotic channels in the roof. The cave seemed to consist of several high pheratic rifts, the route ascending one and descending another. The first grotto we came to was most unimpressive but climbing higher led us to the Niche d'eccentriques where there were some nice helectites and white stal. A further ascent led to another small chamber containing a big white stal pillar. The descent carrying a small child in a back pack was a bit hairy. The steps were constructed in a deep rift being steep and muddy with poor guard rails. Safely at the bottom we noticed that water flow occurs in this area and in fact we were led off down a slope into a final passage with a door in the end where flood debris could be seen all over the roof. The cave obviously lies close to the gorge here and floods in the winter. That was the end of the trip - about thirty minutes in length.
On the same side of the gorge as the Grotte des Tunnels is the Grotte des Huguenots which has been taken over by an organisation called CESAME. They run an educational exhibition on all aspects of cave exploration and I bought the French booklet on cave conservation here. The price was again 10 francs and, as mentioned, caving books, posters, and leaflets were available. Amongst exhibits was some of Martel's old caving kit. Every caving museum in France claims to have some of his gear - it seems a bit like keeping relics of saints. Can you imagine Britain doing the same to any of our explorers? Other exhibits included a staled over skull, a cave bear skeleton, and a considerable amount of pottery. The cave itself seemed to draught but how much associated passage there is I do not know.
The cave in the region which nearly everyone has heard of is the Aven d'Orgnac. It was first entered by Robert de Joly back in the late 1930's and was rapidly turned into a show cave. The surface buildings are all quite low key and the ticket office looks exactly like a railway station booking hall cum waiting room. One descends to the cave in a lift which opens into a blasted tunnel. The first impressions of the Aven d'Orgnac is of immense size. One first encounters a huge talus cone lying under the 50 metre natural entrance shaft - thankfully well grilled to prevent idiots lobbing rocks in. All around the chamber are immense stalagmites looking like palm trees or gigantic stacks of plates - many are still active. The cave gives the feeling of great age and it is in fact thought to be very old indeed. The stalagmites are standing on a gigantic boulder pile and nowhere can the true floor be seen. A path meanders around the side of the chamber. At one point the whole party is photographed for souvenir pictures if required. On a stal bank in the distance is an urn which contains another holy speleological relic, namely the heart of Robert de Joly who died about fifteen years ago. A steep flight of steps goes down about 60 metres or so to a balcony view into the theatrically lit Salle Rouge - the end of the cave. Much amusement can then be had watching fat French tourists struggling back out. The guide did not mind us taking the odd photograph although they had to be small scale of necessity. About twenty years ago a big extension to the system was made comprising several more bigger and better decorated chambers. According to Pierre Minvielle's book (100 Grotte et canyons) it is possible to negotiate trips into this extension although reading between the lines I feel this might be quite difficult. It certainly would be a mind blowing kind of caving trip.
After the Aven d'Orgnac and a picnic lunch we drove off to the Grotte de la Forestiere. This was not far away at the end of a track seemingly in the middle of nowhere. The manager has been caving in England but unfortunately was not there the day we visited. His wife spoke poor English so our conversation in a sort of Franglais was somewhat halting. However we did get a price reduction for being cavers. A natural entrance leads into a roomy pheratic tunnel which widens into chambers in places. The whole cave lies close to surface as can be evidenced by the number of large tree roots which pierce the roof, cross the chamber and burrow into the floor. The management actively encouraged the taking of photographs which was nice because the scale permitted photography. Just inside the entrance was a feature common to many French caves - a pile of assorted bones. The terminal grotto was well decorated with many cauliflower concretions and crystal pools. There was also a speleological zoo in the form of several tanks containing cave dwelling creatures such as Niphargus and blind fish. The cave looked as if it was a dead end but our guide said it was thought possible it might link with the Aven d'Orgnac. This seemed unlikely to me.
One of the most impressive caves we visited, and an inspiration to any caver who has ever wanted to open his own show cave, was La Cocaliere. It lies about half an hour's drive from the Ardeche Gorge but is well worth a visit. The cave has only been open as a show cave for about fifteen years and is still being extended both for the public and in the exploratory sense. The route through the show cave section was constructed by the original explorer and his team. He purchased the land over the caves in order to develop it. Initially, equipment, cement etc. all had to be carried in on back packs and the work was done in the light of caving lamps. This might explain why the floor detail in most of the cave has been so well preserved - in places it looks as if the concrete floor has been rolled down the centre of a pristine passage. A flight of steps leads into an abandoned stream passage about the size of the extension passage in Otter Hole. There follows a walk of about a kilometre in some marvellously decorated cave featuring amongst other things, cave pearls and the disc formations for which the system is well known. The lighting is unobtrusive and, as this is a feature of virtually all the caves we visited, there was no fern or moss growth to disfigure the cave. The walk ends in an ascent to a higher level pheratic passage near the surface where the guide spent ages babbling away in incomprehensible French next to some skulls and broken pottery. I am told that the first man up into this section had a bit of trouble on the climb. His light went out at the critical moment and after making it over the lip of the pitch he shakily relit his lamp only to see dozens of grinning skulls surrounding him! After emerging to daylight we had a short train ride back to the main complex. There is a cafe at the cave - it is a bit of a rip-off. Price was 25 francs, i.e. average for the trip into the cave.
Lying on the plateau above the gorge is the entrance to Grotte de Marzal. This is named after a shepherd who was unfortunate enough to be murdered and thrown into the hole. This was one of the busiest caves we visited and was substantially commercially developed. Nearby was a prehistoric zoo containing some life size dinosaur models - rather good fun. Aven Marzal was relocated by - yes, you've guessed it - Martel. There is more of his gear in the caving museum plus some of Robert de Joly's. Underground the cave begins with a steep staircase down the 50 metre entrance pitch which enters a high chamber containing a few nice stal flows and some more bones. A further descent leads past the (reorganised) bones of Marzel's dog which are lit by UV light for some reason. Although there are potentially massive fines for damaging stal in French caves the management were taking no chances here and the final section through some grottos was most un-aesthetically caged in. The climb out proved energetic and we left the cave by a second entrance. Not a very exciting system really.
About two hours drive from Vallon Pont d'Arc will get you to the Fontaine de Vaucluse. There is no real cave here but it is well worth a visit - you can always visit the Norbert Casteret caving museum if you are desperate. Vaucluse is another tourist trap and reminded me of a cross between Castleton, Cheddar and Wookey Hole. A big stream flows down a pretty wooded valley (if you keep eyes right) from the base of a 300 metre high cliff. At the start of the walk up to the rising is a paper mill and the path is lined with shops and stalls selling all sorts of souvenirs. However nothing can really detract from the drame of the Fontaine de Vaucluse itself. The summer stream rises amongst boulders in the stream bed 20 metres below the main cave. At the end of the path is a steep slope down to a massive arched entrance about 20 metres across and 9 metres high. On either side are graduated iron plates - the sorgometre. This gives a measure of the water level at anyone time. The cave floor is occupied by a pool of the clearest crystal blue. Stones thrown in seem to go on down for ever. This is the deepest known sump in the world, subject of the world cave (and sport) diving record currently held by Jochen Hasenmeyer. It is possible to traverse round one wall of the pool and get a nice view out. It is staggering to consider the volume of water that must flow out in spring to overflow the top of the entrance slope. The Fontaine de Vaucluse is certainly very impressive.
Not far away but badly signposted were the Grottes de Thouzon. These caves are developed in quite a low key fashion. They were discovered by quarrying and consist of a single passage, reminiscent of a large Devon cave. The guide spoke very clear French and only after talking to her in French for most of the trip did I discover she was American! Tree roots were again much in evidence showing how close the cave ran to the surface. The final chamber contains quite an impressive array of straws. The caves are worth a visit if you go to the Fontaine de Vaucluse.
Finally I should mention the caves we did not visit and those I examined with simple caving gear (mostly bare feet, bathing trunks and a Petzl lamp) around the sides of the gorge. Near the bottom of the gorge is the famous Grotte St Marcel which is featured twice in Pierre Minvielle's book. To reach it you will need to use the map of the area but it is worth visiting the entrance if only on the way to the nearby beach! A rough track, passable by vehicles with good suspension, leads steeply down to a parking area. The path to the Cafe des Grottes leads past Grotte St. Marcel. There is an archaeological dig in the entrance and the cave has been gated. This is a shame because it provided an opportunity for some wild caving. The gorge entrance leads into a huge ancient main drain boring back under the plateau. A relatively recently discovered upper series drops from the plateau into the main tunnel. The system can now only be entered from the plateau. The draught coming out of the holes in the gate can be heard several feet away! The nearby sandy beach is quiet and secluded and marvellous if you like nudist swimming and sunbathing. Walks along the gorge just above river level will reveal ancient oxbow caves of varying length and interest. I had a look at two resurgence caves. One was the Source de Gournier reached by a long walk down a path from the road. The river at this point enters a narrow canal for 75 metres after some rapids. On the far bank at the start of the canal was a classic resurgence entrance with a dried moss covered stream bed leading from it. Off I went with my trusty Petzl zoom and bathing trunks. An icy draught billowed from the cave and after groping my way over razor sharp sculptured limestone I came to an arete above a short pitch. I packed up and left at this point. The other entrance was the Event de Fossoubie at the start of the gorge. This cave has been linked with the Goule de Fossoubie some kilometres away by Belgium cave divers. The system is notoriously flood prone and contains 55 sumps! My foray ended in a sump in one direction and, after a wade through glutinous mud, in a pitch in the other. The system looks rather Otter Holish and uninspiring.
The other cave we looked at was the Goule de Sauvas near and part of La Cocaliere. This huge rift entrance by the road led into a big semi-active river passage. Progress was halted by the deep water filled potholes in the floor. It is in Pierre Minvielle's book.
The Ardeche resion certainly merits a visit. Some day perhaps I could do some real caving here!
Peter Glanville - October 1986
Risca lead mine has been worked for many years, documentation goes back to the 18th century. The ancient entrances have been lost and have grassed over.
A few years ago the mine was bisected by quarrying activities. Some quarrymen entered the mine and reported roaring streamways, vast lakes and caverns, but their find was quickly lost owing to continued quarrying activities.
This year the new mine entrance was rediscovered, the quarry is now a landfill project and the entrance could soon be lost again. However, the council hopes to secure access to the mine, either by building a conduit to the present entrance under a growing pile of rubble or to access one of the ancient entrances.
To this end the BEC were invited by Colin Brown of the Engineering Dept. to explore and survey the mine. The majority of the survey was carried out on the 21st and 29th of June 1986 by a team of enthusiastic explorers, all having heard of vast streamways etc. etc.
On the 29th June, Bob and Dany dived the flooded shafts, negotiating rotting climbing stemples and structural timbers; one shaft was dived to -27m and the second to -14m. The later having a submerged level heading off in the same direction as the main adit. They also reported that much of the passage between the lake and flooded shafts has a thin floor supported by ancient submerged timbers.
Of interest to industrial archaeologists there is a couple of hundred feet of modern tramway (4x4" timbers, 14" apart). Of interest to cavers the main adit bisects small pheratic tubes in limestone and that there is a fair flow of water through the system.
It is a pleasure to learn that the local county council is positive in preserving access to the mine in view of the closures we see today albeit for different reasons.
Steve Milner.
OLD LEAD MINE
Surveyed: AM, SJM, MMcD, AJ, BC, DB, TG, AL. 29/6/86
Drawn: SJM
GRADE 5C. 10cm = 20m. Sheet 2
NOTE. At Entrance 10000E, 10000N, 100 AH
9956.9E,
9937.2N, 98.41 AH
9965.56E, 9933.0N, 107.43 AH
Minutes of the Annual General Meeting of the Bristol Exploration Club held at the Belfry on Saturday, 4th October 1986
The meeting was convened by the Hon. Sec. Bob Cork, there being sufficient quorum present at 10.35 hours.
Present:
Bob Cork, Dave Turner, Alan Downton, Pat Cronin, Paul Hodgson, Chris Smart, Jeremy Henley, Tim Gould, Tony Jarratt, Mark Lumley, Henry Bennett, Andy Cave, Steve Milner, Tom Chapman, Dany Bradshaw, John Turner, Gill Turner, Brian Prewer, Andy Sparrow, Graham Wilton-Jones, Dave Pike, Mike Jeanmaire, Chris Batstone, Bob Hill, Axel Knutson, Steve Tuck, John Bennett, Nigel Taylor, Alan Thomas,Nick Holstead, John Chew, Lawrence Smith, Alan Turner, Andrew Middleton, Richard Paine, Lisa Taylor, Ian Caldwell, Stuart McManus and John Dukes.
Apologies: Jerry Crick, Richard Clarke, Alan Butcher, Brian Workman, Pete Franklin, John and Lavinia Watson, Rob Harper, Phil Romford, Fiona Lewis, Mike McDonald, Roy Bennett, Bob Bibmead and Georgina Ainsley.
Apologies:- Pete Franklin, Richard Clarke, Edric Hobbs, Mike Wigglesworth, Dave Irwin, Rob Harper, Lavinia Watson, Fiona Lewis and Phil Romford.
Nominations were requested for chairman - Tim Large, proposed by Alan Thomas and seconded by Brian Brewer, was the only nomination and was duly elected as chairman.
The chairman asked for members' resolutions.
Minutes of 1985 A.G.M. These had previously been published in the B.B. They were taken as read and accepted by the meeting, proposed John Turner, seconded Andy Sparrow and accepted - unanimously,
Matters Arising. There were no matters arising.
Hon. Sec's. Report. This had been previously published in the BB and was taken as read. Joan Bennett asked for the present position regarding the Cuthbert's lease, the secretary informed the meeting that we were still awaiting a reply from Inveresk. Joan asked if they could be hurried along, the secretary agreed to pursue this matter. The acceptance of the report was, proposed by Tony Jarratt and seconded Nigel Taylor and was carried unanimously.
Hon. Treasurer's Report. This was previously published in the BB and was taken as read. Jeremy Henley produced the financial accounts which were distributed at the meeting. Proposed Dany Bradshaw, seconded Paul Hodgson that the report be accepted - carried. A vote of thanks for Jeremy's efforts on behalf of the club during his stint as treasurer was proposed by Dave Turner and seconded by Chris Smart and was carried unanimously.
Hon. Auditor's Report. Joan Bennett read her report to the meeting stating that she was impressed by the state of the accounts. She said that they represented a fair and reasonable record of the club's financial position. The report was accepted by the meeting, proposed Dany Bradshaw, seconded Mark Lumley, and a vote of thanks given.
Caving Secretary's Report. This was previously published in the BB and was taken as read. Proposed Andy Sparrow, seconded Ian Caldwell that the report be accepted. Carried and a vote of thanks given.
Hut Warden's Report. Tony Jarratt read his report. Proposed - Stuart McManus, seconded Chris Batstone that the report be accepted, and was carried unanimously.
Tackle Master's Report. Steve Milner read his report to the meeting. It was proposed by Pat Cronin and seconded by Tim Gould that the report be accepted and it was carried unanimously.
B.B. Editor's Report. Dave Turner had previously published his report in the BB and it was proposed by Greg Villis and seconded by John Chew that the report be accepted and this was carried unanimously. A vote of thanks was given.
Hut Engineer's Report. Dany Bradshaw gave an oral report to the meeting. He informed the meeting that the hut improvements were now finished. Working weekends that he had arranged had been poorly attended and nobody had fallen through the ceiling this year. Since last year's meeting certain deficiencies had been found in the Belfry regarding fire regulations and he was endeavouring to correct this matter. The exterior paintwork needs doing again; he also read a further list of outstanding jobs. Chris Smart complained about the showers. Dany replied that this was a known problem and he had it in hand. It was proposed by Andy Sparrow and seconded by Pat Cronin that the report be accepted and was carried unanimously.
Librarian's Report. Tony Jarratt read his report to the meeting. Alan Thomas raised the matter of the mining log, the secretary answered that Harris and Harris were still looking for it. Andy Sparrow said that the first caving log was missing and he believed it to be in the possession of Mark Brown. Next years committee were asked to investigate the matter. It was proposed by Nigel Taylor and seconded by Brian Prewer that the committee look into, and possibly acquire a secure cabinet or safe, preferably fireproof, for the security of club documents. This was carried. The acceptance of the report was proposed by Paul Hodgson and seconded by Chris Smart that the report be accepted, this was carried unanimously.
Ian Dear Memorial Fund. Mark Lumley read his report to the meeting giving the names of this year's beneficiaries. He also recommended acceptance of the proposal relating to the IDMF to be tabled later in the meeting. The new treasurer was asked to decide on the most beneficial placement of the monies. It was proposed by Paul Hodgson and seconded by Stuart McManus that the report be accepted and this was carried unanimously.
Members Resolutions. It was proposed by Jeremy Henley and seconded by Dave Turner that ÂŁ100 per year is transferred from the General Fund to the IDMF to ensure that the club continues to help deserving younger members to join overseas expeditions. An amendment to this proposal was proposed by John Turner and seconded by Paul Hodgson that the words "on the 1st November providing that it does not embarrass the General Fund" be inserted after "IDMF". Voting was as follows: for the amendment 26, against 7, no abstentions - carried; for the amended proposal, for 32, against 1, abstentions 1 - carried.
Result of ballet for Committee. The chairman announced that the following members had been elected in order of votes cast:
Mark Lumley
Tony Jarratt
Bob Cork
Dave Turner
Brian Workman
Dany Bradshaw
Steve Milner
Mike McDonald
Phil Romford
Andy Sparrow
The last two had equal votes - both accepted for committee AGM decision
Election of Officers
Hon. Sec. Bob Cork
Treasurer Mike McDonald
Caving Sec. Mark Lumley
B.B. Editor Dave Turner
Hut Warden Tony Jarratt
Hut Engineer Dany Bradshaw
Tacklemaster Steve Milner
Ordinary committee members: Brian Workman, Phil Romford and Andy Sparrow.
Non committee post: Hon. Auditor Joan Bennett
Constitutional amendments
Committee Proposals. The proposals as published in the B.B. in accordance with section 7a of the constitution were discussed at length. Some discontent was expressed with the proposals concerning changing the numbers of persons serving on the committee.
Proposals 1 and 4 were voted on respectively and both carried unanimously.
Proposal 3 was taken next; for the proposal 8, against 16, abstentions 8 - defeated.
Proposal 2. An amendment was proposed by Stuart McManus and seconded by Nigel Taylor that the words 'but with the word "nine" replaced by "twelve"' be deleted from the second paragraph of the proposal. This was carried unanimously. The amended proposal was then carried unanimously.
Additional Amendment
The amendments as proposed by Chris Smart and seconded by Tony Jarratt and published in the B.B. were discussed thoroughly. Stuart McManus expressed his concern regarding the wording of the accompanying notes. An amendment was proposed by Stuart McManus and seconded by John Turner that the words "Married Couples" in sections 3a and 3c of the constitution be replaced by "Joint Members".
Voting: amendment for 32, against 0, abstentions 2 carried
proposal for 32, against 0, abstentions 2 - carried
Any Other Business
1. The secretary asked the meeting to ratify the co-options of committee members as directed by last year's AGM in accordance with section 5a of the constitution. Carried
2. Tim Large read a statement on the current situation regarding SSSI's. He also informed the meeting of the access problems concerning Lamb Leer. A short discussion followed.
3. Dave Turner inquired the present position regarding the CuthbertÂ’s survey. Bob Cork answered him.
There being no other business the chairman closed the meeting at 14.10 hours.
Officers Reports
Bed nights, hut fees and relevant figures are obtainable from the treasurer. The Belfry has had yet another good year and seems to have suffered little from the closure of the Priddy caves due to continued support from a nucleus of members and a series of members weekends and social events which have brought the club together and helped with the spirit of the BEC. Several members and guests owe hut fees which I hope to collect at this AGM.
During the year we lost the Navy and gained the Army. A great benefit as our more needy and hungry residents will affirm. In conclusion I should like to thank all those who have done their bit to keep the Belfry (relatively) tidy over the year.
Tony Jarratt.
Little to report as usual. All exchange publications have been regularly received and several new books purchased at the request of members. This coming year, finances willing, I hope to purchase more relevant material and with the assistance of the club equip the library to enable it to function more efficiently. The issue of library keys to several more members would help in this.
Tony Jarratt.
Open again after some 6 months of closure pending negotiations with N.C.C. A BEC team were given permission to check out the Boulder Ruckle on 30th November and found it to be as stable as usual - no obvious movement on the standard "trade route" but the boulder which had dropped from the roof between the guide line and the short cut to Boulder Chamber appears to have slipped a further couple of inches - take care here.
The only major movement has occurred at the far side of the Boulder Chamber short cut (now widely known as the "Woggle Press"). Two very large boulders have slipped here and some digging was necessary to enable us to return via this route. More work needs to be done here to stabilise this area. Take great care here or use the normal route via the Upper Traverse until stabilisation has been completed.
DO NOT use the route over the fields from the Belfry - please walk around via the road!
All smiles at the Belfry
Many thanks to Bob Bagshaw for the donation of a 5 gallon barrel of Smile's Ale to the Belfry regulars on the occasion of his retirement, and best wishes from all the Club.
Thanks also to the Shepton for providing ale and a spontaneously combusting sofa following their annual buffet. We promise we'll give all the trophies back!
J.Rat.
828 Nicolette Abell Faulkland, Bath
1059 Georgina Ainsley Redland,
Bristol
987 Dave Aubrey Park
St, Salisbury, Wiltshire.
20 (L) Bobby Bagshaw Knowle,
Bristol, Avon
392 (L) Mike Baker Midsomer
Norton, Bath, Avon
818 Chris Batsone Tynings,
Radstock, Avon
1079 Henry Bennett Pilmico,
London.
390 (L) Joan Bennett Wesbury-on-Trym,
Bristol
214 (L) Roy Bennett Wesbury-on-Trym,
Bristol
998 Crissie Bissett Exeter,
Devon
731 Bob Bidmead East
Harpytree, Bristol
364 (L) Pete Blogg Chaldon,
Caterham, Surrey
145 (L) Sybil Bowden-Lyle Calne,
Wiltshire
959 Chris Bradshaw Cheddar,
Somerset
868 Dany Bradshaw Haybridge,
Wells, Somerset
1005 Jane Brew Sutton-in-Craven,
Keithley, West Yorkshire
751 (L) T.A. Bookes London,
SW2
924 Aileen Butcher Holt,
Trowbridge, Wiltshire
849 Alan Butcher Holt,
Trowbridge, Wiltshire
956 Ian Caldwell 13
Buckingham Place, Clifton, Bristol
1014 Chris Castle Westlynne,
Cheddar, Somerset
1062 Andy Cave Splott,
Cardiff, Wales
902 (L) Martin Cavender Westbury-sub-Mendip,
Wells, Somerset.
1048 Tom Chapman Barrows
Road, Cheddar, Somerset.
1040 John Chew Rodney
Stoke, Wells, Somerset
1080 Tony Church Shepton
Mallet, Bath
1030 Richard Clarke Normans
Green, Plymtree, East Devon
211 (L) Clare Coase Berkeley-Vale,
New South Wales, 2259, Australia
89 (L) Alfie Collins Litton,
Somerset
862 Bob Cork Stoke
St. Michael, Somerset
1042 Mick Corser Woodbury,
Exeter, Devon
827 Mike Cowlishaw Micheldever
Station, Winchester, Hants.
1060 Peter Crawley West
Wickham. Kent
890 Jerry Crick Reaseheath,
Nantwich, Cheshire
896 Pat Cronin Knowle,
Bristol
680 Bob Cross Knowle,
Bristol
405 (L) Frank Darbon Vernon,
British Columbia, Canada. VIT 6M3
423 (L) Len Dawes Main
Street, Minster Matlock, Derbyshire
815 Nigel Dibden Holmes
Chapel, Cheshire
164 (L) Ken Dobbs Beacon
Heath, Exeter, Devon
829 Angie Dooley Harborne,
Birmingham
710 Colin Dooley Harborne,
Birmingham
1000 (L) Roger Dors Priddy,
Somerset
1038 Alan Downton Sundon
Park, Luton, Beds
830 John Dukes Wells,
Somerset
996 Terry Earley Wyle,
Warmister, Wiltshire
771 Pete Eckford Pelting
Drove, Priddy, Somerset
322 (L) Bryan Ellis Westonzoyland,
Bridgwater, Somerset
1064 David Evans Didcot,
Oxon
1063 Peter Evans Abingdon,
Oxfordshire
232 Chris Falshaw Fulwood,
Sheffield
269 (L) Tom Fletcher Bramcote,
Nottingham.
894 Phil Ford Greenfield,
Clwyd, North Wales
949 Geoff Ford Broadfield,
Crawley, West Sussex
404 (L) Albert Francis Wells,
Somerset
569 Joyce Franklin Stone,
Staffs
469 Pete Franklin Stone,
Staffs
769 Sue Gazzard Tynings,
Radstock, Nr Bath, Avon
835 Len Gee St.
Edgeley, Stockport, Cheshire
1069 Angie Glanville Chard,
Somerset
1017 Peter Glanville Chard,
Somerset
648 Dave Glover Pamber
Green, Basingstoke, Hampshire
1006 Edward Gosden Brighton
Hill, Basingstoke, Hants
1054 Tim Gould Redland,
Bristol
860 Glenys Grass Sawbridgeworth,
Herts
790 Martin Grass Sawbridgeworth,
Herts
1009 Robin Gray East
Horrington, Wells, Somerset
1089 Kevin Gurner Theydon
Bois, Epping, Essex
1088 Nick Gymer Theydon
Bois, Epping, Essex
432 (L) Nigel Hallet Address
not known
104 (L) Mervyn Hannam St
Annes, Lancashire
999 Rob Harper Hanham,
Bristol, Avon
4 (L) Dan Hassell Moorlynch,
Bridgwater, Somerset
893 Dave Hatherley Cannington,
Bridgwater, Somerset
1078 Mike Hearn Bagworth,
Axbridge, Somerset
974 Jeremy Henley Leg
Square, Shepton Mallet, Somerset
917 Robin Hervin Trowbridge,
Wiltshire
952 Bob Hill 2441
B6 Wassennaar, The Netherlands
373 Sid Hobbs Priddy,
Wells Somerset
736 Sylvia Hobbs Priddy,
Wells Somerset
905 Paul Hodgson Pennybatch
Lane, Burcott, Wells, Somerset
898 Liz Hollis Batcombe,
Shepton Mallet, Somerset
899 Tony Hollis Batcombe,
Shepton Mallet, Somerset
920 Nick Holstead Trowbridge,
Wiltshire
387 (L) George Honey Address
not known
971 Colin Houlden Bristol,
London, SW2
923 Trevor Hughes Bleadney,
Wells, Somerset
855 Ted Humphreys Moorsite,
Marnhull, Sturminster Newton, Dorset
73 Angus Innes Alveston,
Bristol, Aven
540 (L) Dave Irwin Townsend,
Priddy, Somerset
922 Tony Jarratt Pelting
Drove, Priddy, Somerset
668 Mike Jeanmaire Peak
Forest, Buxton, Derbyshire
1026 Ian Jepson Beechen
Cliff, Bath
51 (L) A Johnson Station
Rd., Flax Bourton, Bristol
995 Brian Johnson Ottery
St. Mary, Devon
1001 Graeme Johnson East
Park Road, Leicester
560 (L) Frank Jones Pelting
Drove, Priddy, Somerset
1074 Jerry Jones Portishead,
Bristol
567 (L) Alan Kennett Henleaze,
Brsitol
316 (L) Kangy King Pucklechurch,
Bristol, Avon
1007 Jonathan King Pucklechurch,
Bristol, Avon
542 (L) Phil Kingston Brisbane,
Queensland, 4122, Australia
413 (L) R. Kitchen Horrabridge,
Yelverton, Devon
946 Alex Ragnar Knutson Bedminster,
Bristol
874 Dave Lampard Horsham,
West Sussex
667 (L) Tim Large Wells,
Somerset
958 Fi Lewis
Wells, Somerset
1015 Andrew Lolley Kingsdowm,
Bristol
1043 Andy Lovell Rowan
Walk, Keynsham, Bristol
1072 Clive Lovell Keynsham,
Bristol
1065 Mark Lovell Keynsham,
Bristol
1057 Mark Lumley Clifton,
Bristol 8
1022 Kevin Mackin Yeovil,
Somerset
1071 Michael McDonald Knolw,
Bristol
1067 Fiona McFall Knowle,
Bristol
651 Pete MacNab (Sr) Cheddar,
Somerset
1052 Pete MacNab (Jr) Cheddar,
Somerset
1090 Robert McNair Otley,
Yorkshire
550 (L) R A MacGregor Baughurst,
Basingstoke, Hants
725 Stuart McManus Wells
Road, Priddy, Somerset
106 (L) E.J. Mason Henleaze,
Bristol
558 (L) Tony Meaden Westbury,
Bradford Abbas, Sherborne, Dorset
704 Dave Metcalf Long
Eaton, Nittingham
1044 Andrew Middleton Earlsfield,
London.
1053 Steve Milner Clifton,
Bristol
1073 Tracey Newstead Wells,
Somerset
936 Dave Nichols Kalgoorlie,
Western Australia
852 John Noble Tennis
Courts Rod, Paulton, Bath
624 Jock Orr Sturton-by-Stow,
Lincoln
396 (L) Mike Palmer Yarley,
Wells, Somerset
1045 Richard Payne Sidcup
, Kent
22 (L) Les Peters Knowle
Park, Bristol Avon
499 (L) A. Philpott Bishopston,
Bristol, Avon
1037 Dave Pike Yarley,
Wells, Somerset
337 Brian Prewer West
Horrington, Wells, Somerset
481 (L) John Ransom Patchway,
Bristol, Avon
682 John Riley Waramanga,
ACT 2611, Australia
1033 Sue Riley Waramanga,
ACT 2611, Australia
1070 Mary Robertson Stonebridge
Park, London, NW10
986 Lil Romford Coxley,
Wells, Somerset
985 Phil Romford Coxley,
Wells, Somerset
921 Pete Rose Crediton,
Devon
832 Roger Sabido Lawrence
Weston, Bristol
240 (L) Alan Sandall Nailsea,
Avon
359 (L) Carol Sandall Nailsea,
Avon
760 Jenny Sandercroft Victoria
Park, Bristol
237 (L) Bryan Scott Havestock
Road, Winchester Hnts
78 (L) R Setterington Taunton,
Somerset
213 (L) Rod Setterington Milton
Rd., Harpendon, Herts
1046 Dave Shand Easton,
Bristol
1036 Nicola Slann Clifton,
Bristol
915J Chris Smart Nr.
Bradford on Avon, Wilts
911 James Smart Clifton,
Bristol
1041 Laurence Smith West
Horrington, Wells, Somerset
823 Andrew Sparrow Wells
Road, Priddy, Somerset
1 (L) Harry Stanbury Bude,
Cornwall
38(L) Mrs I Stanbury Knowle,
Bristol
575 (L) Dermot Statham Westcombe,
Shepton Mallet, Somerset
365 (L) Roger Stenner Weston
super Mare, Avon
867 Rich Stevenson Wookey,
Wells, Somerset, Somerset
583 Derek Targett East
Horrington, Wells Somerset
1039 Lisa Taylor Weston
Road, Bath
772 Nigel Taylor Langford
Lane, Langford, Avon
1035 John Theed The
Street, Farmborough, Bath
284 (L) Alan Thomas Nine
Barrows Lane, Priddy, Somerset
348 (L) D Thomas Little
Birch, Bartlestree, Hereford
571 (L) N Thomas Norwich
Rd., Salhouse, Norwich, Norfolk.
699 Buckett Tilbury High
Wycombe, Bucks
700 Anne Tilbury High
Wycombe, Bucks
74 (L) Dizzie Thompsett-Clark Great
Baddow, Chelmsford, Essex
381 (L) Daphne Towler Nyetimber,
Bognor Regis, Sussex
157 (L) Jill Tuck Llanfrechfa,
Cwmbran, Gwent, Wales
382 Steve Tuck Coxley,
Wells, Somerset
1023 Matt Tuck Coxley,
Wells, Somerset
1066 Alan Turner Leigh
on Mendip, Bath, Avon
678 Dave Turner Leigh
on Mendip, Bath, Avon
912 John Turner Launceston
Rd., Tavistock, Devon.
925 Gill Turner Launceston
Rd., Tavistock, Devon.
635 (L) Stuart Tuttlebury Boundstone,
Farnham, Surrey
887 Greg Villis Banwell,
Weston-super-Mare, Avon
175 (L) Mrs. D. Whaddon Taunton,
Somerset
1077 Brian Wafer St.
Pauls Cray, Orpington, Kent
949 John Watson West
Horrington, Wells, Somerset
1019 Lavinia Watson West
Horrington, Wells, Somerset
973 James Wells Yorktown
Heights, New York, USA
1055 Oliver Wells Yorktown
Heights, New York, USA
1032 Barry Wharton Yatton,
Bristol
553 Bob White Wells,
Somerset.
878 Mne White Royal
marines Police, Hamworthy, Dorset
1068 John Whiteley Holnepark,
Ashburton, Devon
1061 Kerry Wiggins Brighton
Hill, Basingstoke, Hants
1031 Mike Wigglesworth St.
CuthbertÂ’s Lodge, Chamberlain Street, Wells, Somerset.
1075 Tony Williams Leigh
on Mendip, Bath
1076 Roz Williams Leigh
on Mendip, Bath
559 Barrie Wilton Haydon,
Nr. Wells, Somerset
568 Brenda Wilton Haydon,
Nr. Wells, Somerset
850 Annie Wilton-Jones Llanlley
Hill, Abergavenny, Gwent
813 Ian Wilton-Jones Llanlley
Hill, Abergavenny, Gwent
721 G Wilton-Jones Draycott,
Cheddar, Somerset
914 Brian Workman Little
London, Oakhill, Bath
477 Ronald Wyncoll Holycroft,
Hinkley, Leics.