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Editorial

No, we haven't been affected by the printer's strike and neither is the shortness of this B.B. in any way a piece of sarcasm or a hint.

The fact of the matter is that, although we have stated in previous issues that when faced with a shortage of material, we would make up the size of the club's monthly magazine by contributing ourselves, suitable inspiration is lacking at the moment.

This being so, rather than waste paper, we are just printing what we happen to have by us this month and hope that we shall have more to offer our readers next month.

" Alfie. "

July Committee Meeting

Owing holidays, to the absence of many committee members on their holidays, no meeting was held this month of July: -

Caving.

The Caving Secretary sends this list of club trips for the month of July:-

STOKE LANE.         Sunday, 19th July, 11 am at Cooks Farm.
CUTHBERT’S.          Saturday, 25th July, 2 pm at the Belfry
SWILDONS.            Tyro’s trip round the top.  Sunday 26th July, 2 pm at cave.

Belfry.

The Hut Warden regrets that, owing to lack of time it will not be possible to run the 'credit' system next club year.  Accordingly, after the A.G.M. all members will be asked to pay 'on the nail', and any credit balances will be refunded to members.  It is hoped that all debts will also be cleared by this time and all members are asked to make a strenuous effort to do this so that the Treasurer may be able to balance his accounts.  Amounts owing will be available from the Hut Warden in the near future as each account is made up.

Personal

Congratulations to Bob Price and Mary on their recent engagement - we have our spies everywhere!

Social Column

A fantastic weekend was enjoyed by many members recently on Mendip.  A celebratory barrel supplied by Chris Falshaw to mark his forthcoming wedding was downed on the Friday even and followed by suitable Midsummer revels on the Saturday.  A Goon Suit race across Mineries pool, although somewhat disorganised, provided considerable amusement, and served to show most mothers taking part just where all the leaks in their goon suits were.

This was followed by an evening at the Hunter's and finished off with a bonfire and barbecue outside the entrance to Cuthbert's.  Two Harvard students, Geoff and Norris, were, we feel, suitably impressed.  Suffice to say that, during the evening, they were observed to be drinking Draught Worthington, Ben's Rough, Draught Guinness and T.V. (not all at once!) and finished it up with the special cider punch which was served round the bonfire and which was curiously potent.  For those still thirsty, there was a four and a half gallon flagon of screech to finish the proceedings (and some of the participants!)

The revels were mainly organised by Mike (Emperor) Holland, of the Wessex Cave Club, the food cooked by members of the Shepton Mallet Cave Club and the fun enjoyed by cavers of a number of clubs, including our own of course!

Meeting

A meeting was held at Bristol University on Friday, 26th of June, to which Dr. Tratman invited two representatives of all the recognised Mendip Caving Clubs to meet a representative of the Bristol Waterworks Company.  The two representatives attending on behalf of the B.E.C. were R.A. Setterington and R.J. Bagshaw.

The Waterworks representative, Mr. Brown, informed the meeting that the Bristol Waterworks had taken over the Axbridge Waterworks and in consequence, now controlled both G.B. and the August-Longwood system.

In the near future, the Waterworks would be taking over land in the Shepton Mallet Waterworks area, which includes the St. Dunstan's well catchment area of Stoke Lane, Browne's Hole, Fairy Cave, Hillier’s &c.

Later, it was possible that the Wells area would be affected, bringing all the caves of Mendip under the control of the Waterworks.

Mr. Brown stressed the fact that it is the policy of the Waterworks not to restrict activities on their land and instanced the yachting and fishing clubs which are allowed the use of the company's reservoirs.

However, for administrative reasons, the Waterworks will only be prepared to appoint one body as their agents.  A further meeting will be held in November at which it is expected that a representative body will be set up to act in this capacity.

Editor's Note.     The above is not a first hand account of the meeting, but is substantially correct in fact.  Obviously, the news of this meeting is bound to raise some speculation amongst cavers.  The Belfry Bulletin will keep members informed of any further developments on this subject on a factual basis.  Any letters &c involving readers personal comments may be published if it is felt that they are worthy of inclusion.  It must be realised, however, that author's opinions are not necessarily those of the Club or the Editor.

Letters

To the Editor of the B.B.

Dear Sir,

While glancing through a recent B.B., I was surprised to see that a large part of it was written by Roger Stenner.

I don't know whether this person considers himself an author, but the editor must be really short of material to include such tripe.

I regret that I find myself agreeing with him on one point, however.  That is about the badges.  I'm sure the club wouldn't like their badge to be confused with a weegee boogie woogie club and Tony Rich's originals are very good and in complete contrast to such badges seen in thousands all through the summer.

Well, I must get back to the kitchen sink or someone will be coming home to find his dinner isn't ready. Still, if you print this you will have a new signature for the B.B. and I'll have written my letter for the year.

            Daphne Stenner

Having given one of the Stenner family her head, we must be fair…

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To the Editor, B.B.

Dear Sir,

After two successive Christmas B.B. covers depicting most reprehensible caving practice, I feel compelled to announce that the person responsible has been observed making sketches, possibly with the intention of making another block for the B.B.

After the scene in 1957 of Drunken Debauchery, most offensive to the morals of any normal decent well-bred gentleman, readers of the 1958 Christmas B.B. were shown a scene including foolhardy, unnecessary and hazardous acrobatics on a ladder!  This should not be taken as normal caving practice, as the gentlemen concerned have not even a lifeline!

The following extracts from British Caving will need no further comment: -

page 324           " ....above all …. no alcohol should be given.  Hot sweet drinks are most beneficial."

page 342.          "…..the carrying out of awkward moves without safety precautions for sheer bravado should be firmly stopped at once."

I believe that the three cavers shown on the '58 cover are three of the disgustingly intoxicated cavers depicted in the '57 cover.  The fourth, already unable to stand in 1957, having been left to fend for himself.

I dread to think what further disgusting scene will be submitted for the cover for the Christmas B.B. 1959.

I am sir, yours respectfully,
R.D. Stenner, Esq. B.F., n.b.g.

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and finally

Dear Editor,

Ugh, gurgle-gurgle, goo….goo….goo.

Edwin Stenner.

Editor's note.  I think Edwin's got a point there!

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The Belfry Bulletin. S.J. Collins, 33 Richmond Terrace, Clifton, Bristol 8.
Secretary.  R.J. Bagshaw, 699 Wells Road, Knowle, Bristol 4.

 

Editorial

August being the month when most people get their holidays, the B.B. is usually typed and duplicated in odd moments.  For this reason, at the time of writing this, we have very little idea of what the contents of this B.B.  will be. We do know that it will contain more than last month's skinny effort.

The B.B. Board has tended to change its composition of late.  Bob Price, who finds himself very busy with domestic matters, and "Spike", who is having to put in a lot of hours at his job, are not now available. We thus welcome the offer of help from Roger Stenner and Anne Gardner, who have volunteered to help out with the B.B. production.  The postal Department, under Prew" and Tony O'Flaherty still continues, we hope, to flourish.

Finally, we should like to thank Bryan Ellis for his very considerable help.  Not only has he recently edited and produced the B.B. Digest No 1, an index of the first hundred B.B's (copies of which are available free to any member who can collect one) and is now working on a second Digest, but in addition he has arranged for the new shape B.B. which will be starting next year, to get off to a flying start by relieving us of some of our problems. Thank you very much, Bryan!

“Alfie."

Notices

B.B. Digest, No 1.

Some people have already booked one of these, and others have sent in the money as well.  Since it may not be possible to send out all of them at once, a list of those who have booked and/or paid will be found below. If your name is not here, and you want one, let us know soon!  If you have paid and we haven't received it, let us know even sooner!!

Booked but not paid.

(l) "Prew". (2) Chris Falshaw.  (3) "Sett".  (4) "Mo".  (5) Roger Stenner.  (6) Colin Smith.  (7) "Alfie".  (8) Jill. (9) Frank Darbon.  (10) Bryan Scott.

Booked and paid.

(11) Alan Coase.  (12) "Totty".  (13) George Honey.  (14) C.R.G. Library.  (15) Jim Pembry.

It is hoped to be able to supply all the people whose names appear on these lists within the next week or so .

A.G.M. & Dinner.

The Annual General Meeting for 1959 will be held on Saturday, October 4 and will be followed, as usual, by the Annual Dinner which will be held at the Cliff Hotel at Cheddar.  This is an early advance warning so that you can keep this weekend free.

Nomination Forms. 

A nomination form will be found with this B.B.  Members are reminded that nominations must reach the Hon. Sec. at least three week’s before the A.G.M.  In order to comply with articles 6 & 7 of the club constitution, the September B.B. will be published late, on Thursday September 17th.

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DON'T FORGET ... The date of the A.G.M. and dinner….to send in your nomination form……to order a B.B. Digest if you want one ..... and to settle your Belfry account by the end of September

Caving Log

For June and July

6th June.

St. Cuthbert’s.  Johns Stafford and Attwood, The Bennetts, Colburn and Kangy did a 5½ hr round trip via Dining Room, Rabbit Warren Extension, Crossleg Crawl, Catgut, September Series, High Chamber and out.  Disappointed to find formations are not being treated with respect.  Brought out empty carbide tines and chocolate papers from High Chamber.  Suggest more care be taken.

 

St. Cuthbert’s.  Mike Thompson, Ken Dawe, Gerry Wright, Chris Falshaw and Mo.  Down to the first sump via Pulpit route.  Through first sump to second.  Digging commenced in passage to left of sump itself.  Roof appears to be descending but still carries on.  Conditions in dig b+++y awful.  Norman Petty joined us later on in the afternoon.  Digging was also commenced in roof of stream passage between sumps and ceased when air became foul (due to many bods smoking).  Party then left.

13th June.

St. Cuthbert's.  Roger Stenner, Sid Hobbs, Scottie and party.  Scottie brought up the telephone for servicing.  Roger and Sid started Rabbit Warren survey.  Wire broke in Wire Rift during the trip.

 

Swildons.  (late entry dated 6/6).  Party, Steve Woolford, ‘Jim’, Rowena, Anthony O'F.  Leisurely.  Very leisurely.  Point of return determined wholly by promise of free beer.  We missed it.

21st June.

Emborough.  Cunning boulder juggling by Eric Towler resulted in a fine new entrance.  Rock at bottom must now be removed.

27th June.

Cuckoo Cleeves.  It was reported by a would be party that the entrance shaft has now run in too far for the cave to be entered.

 

Cuthbert's.  Magnetic survey of entrance passage by Alfie & Jill and repair of the phone cable by Prew.  Jill did Ochre Rift on the way out.

28th June.

Eastwater.  Dolphin Pot to Ifold's Series.  Interesting cul-de-sac off beaten track.  A. O’Flaherty, Rowena + 1.  Party later amalgamated with Philip Iles (?) and Co.

4th July.

St. Cuthbert’s.  Roger Stenner + 4.  J. Tucker photographing using a Leica with two lenses.  To Curtain Chamber, back to Cascade Passage.  Photographed Fingers.  Then down Rabbit Warren (Far entrance in Cascade Passage) and into R.W. Extension.  Back to Dining Room, where we were joined by Alan Colburn who had come down looking for Mo.  Out via Everest.

 

St. Cuthbert's.  Mo + 4.  Tourist trip to sump.

 

Swildons.  A. O'F., Rowena and 3 guests.  To 1st sump.  Returning via Long Dry Way.  Much enthusiasm.

5th July.

Eastwater.  Dolphin, Two Verticals, round trip.  A. O'Flaherty & Rowena in conjunction with Mike Holland and 4 Wessex members.

11th July.

Swildons.  Ian Brown, Roger Wakefield, P. Stone + 4.  To first sump via Wet Way and Barnes Loop.  Returned same way.  Considering size and inexperience of party, the ease and speed of the trip was to be marvelled at.  No snags at all.  It was noticed that the cave was almost dry, only a trickle going over the forty.

 

Stoke Lane.  Short photographic to the Crypt.  Alfie, Jill and Prew.  Out for Free Beer.

12th July

Emborough.  Rock blocking way on removed.  The cave still survives.

13th July.

St. Cuthbert’s.  A Monday Night trip.  To September Series with Mike Wheadon, D. Ford, G. Candy, D. Farr, Mike and Prew.  Returned via Harem passage and Cascade Chamber.  G. Candy noticed several forms of Cave Fauna.  M. Wheadon says that from now on he caves only under protest.

19th July.

Stoke Lane.  Roy Bennett, Mo Marriott, Norman Petty, Johns Attwood, Eatough and Stafford, and four others on a trip intended to be a photographic one but which ended as a tourist trip.  Sump cold and miserable, otherwise a very interesting trip.  Throne Room and Bone Chamber very impressive.

A Weegee in New Zealand

We have just received an article from Johnny Lamb, who is, of course, in New Zealand – where Lamb comes from.

My first impression of New Zealand was that the countryside was very much like England.  But when you set away from the farmland and into the native bush, it appears sub tropical, with Fern Trees, Cabbage trees and tall Kouri forest.  The are still large areas of this unclaimed land, although land reclamation is going on all over the country.

For B.E.C. types, New Zealand offers a good many attractions.  There arc several areas where caves are to be found. Waitomo is the most famous.  There is an active caving club here that is engaged in exploring these caves, many of which have never been entered.  The only caving I have done over here is a trip to the glow worm grotto at Waitomo. The glow worms were very impressive but the interest of the cave was rather dull with very few formations.

There is also climbing in North Island around Mount Ruapahu (9,000 ft) and there are a few Alpine and Ski Clubs.  There is also excellent climbing and mountain¬eering to be had in the Southern Alps, with Mount Cook the highest mountain (12,350 ft).  Skiing is a very popular sport here and the big resort is easily reached being in. the centre of North Island near Mt. Ruapehu overlooking the active volcano Mt Ngaurahoe.

About sixty miles from Mount Ruapahu is Lake Toupo which is New Zealand's largest lake.  The trout fishing here is reputed to be the finest of its type in the world.  All around the shores of the lake there is deer and pig hunting to be had.  There is no close season for deer in New Zealand, as they are considered to be vermin.

The weather is ideal for motorcycling, especially in summer, when only a shirt and shorts are needed. The roads, on the other hand, are very poor.  Many are of loose gravel and call for great care, as "Spike" will tell you! For the tourist, or Weegie, there is a lot more of general interest.  There are several active volcanoes and a large number of thermal regions.  You must have your own transport, or it impossible to visit many of these beauty spots.

Having an idle nature, most of my spare time is spent lazing on one of the many wonderful beaches where there is good surfing and safe swimming.  Also, there is big game, fishing for Blue Marlin which is quite cheap to take part in.

The big disadvantage from the B.E.C. member's point of view is the social side.  There is no equivalent of the “Hunters” here.  The high pressure, super-speed drinking houses shut at 6 pm, although I am told that the situation is better in the South Island.  I hope to find out soon and also get a look at the Southern Alps.

Speleological Air Surveying

Several enquiries, received as a result of the comment in the B.B. that a plane was available to Clevedon Archaeological Society, brought the realization that the principles of aerial survey and photography as applied to archaeology would be quite simply adapted to speleology.

The perspective view, for example, of converging lines of drainage, perhaps unnoticed on the ground, could well lead to the discovery of new sink holes.  An hour's flying could do the work of months of field survey. The cost is low, purely that of running the plane from Lulsgate.  Three people including pilot for 15/- for half an hour.  This covers 60 miles.  1 mile for 3d.  Cheaper than the bus!

            Enquiries to Keith Gardner.

Cadbury Camp

The trial excavations recently announced in the B.B. as taking place at Cadbury Camp, Yatton, have now been successfully concluded, with the able "assistance" of certain members of the B.E.C.  This assistance was of a varied nature and included the services of a runner between the site and the 'Prince of Orange'.  Work was further impeded by the constant flow of highly improbable anecdotes and such amusing interludes as the writer removing his finger nail with a pick axe.

Several new features of the camp were noted and surveyed, including a number of primitive hut sites and a pair of gate houses guarding the main entrance on the N.E. Trenches were put through one of the latter and pottery of the early Iron Age was found, together with other rubbish piled against the outer wall.  Other trenches in the central area produced some shards of Roman pottery (although no sign of the suspected Roman building was found) and a very fine Bronze Age arrowhead.  The most interesting remains, however, were shards of Dark Age pottery imported from the Mediterranean in the 5/6th Cents.

This period, following the collapse of official Roman authority, but preceding the foundation of Saxon cultural life, was one of chaotic turbulence producing many legendary figures the most famous of which was Arthur.  It seems as if Cadbury, a pre-Roman hill fort, was re-occupied in the Dark Ages, possibly as a stronghold against the Saxons.  A central stone "Motte" (with a 13th Cent, Coin) may be the result of this secondary occupation and presents a great point of interest for future work.

K.S.Gardner.

* Members will be glad to learn that they were the remains of wine jars.

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ODD FACT.  I noticed, on reading the Newsletter of the L.S.G. & C.S.S. the other day, a spelling of a word used by all caving clubs on Mendip which was new to me.  I hope they won't mind me commenting, but it was spelt 'ouijee'.  The official B.B. version is spelt 'weegee', but I have seen 'weagy', 'weegy' and 'weejy' before now.  Does anyone know the correct spelling?  There are, naturally, a number of spelling mistakes incorporated into each B.B. as it is felt that this lends a haphazard appearance, but this is one word I would like to take care with.  Can anyone tell me?

'Harassed Editor.'

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The OREAD MOUNTAINEERING CLUB have a new club hut at RHYN DDU, on the south slopes of Snowdon.  B.E.C. members are welcome.  The charge is 3/- per night and bookings should be made to F.C. Allen,69, Brentford Drive, Derby.

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The Belfry Bulletin. S.J. Collins, 33 Richmond Terrace, Clifton, Bristol 8.
Secretary.  R.J. Bagshaw, 699 Wells Road, Knowle, Bristol 4.

 

Editorial

The account the Annual General Meeting printed in this B.B. was compiled from notes taken at the time, mainly of points which it was felt might interest those members who were unable to attend.  It is not a complete record, so don't be surprised if some items have been missed out – we want to leave room for the rest of the B.B.!

You will see from the report of the A.G.M. that it appears that the waterworks situation is not going to cover anything like the amount of caves that a lot of us thought it might. The article last month thus becomes rather out of date.  Has anyone got a good crystal ball he can lend to the Editor?

" Alfie."

Report of the A.G.M.

The proceedings opened by the unanimous election of "Sett" as chairman.  The Hon. Sec’s Report followed.  Bob said that the total membership was now 119 and also announced that a further meeting was to be held to set up a governing committee to administer caves owned by the Waterworks.  The meeting agreed to elect representatives to attend this, and Bob Bagshaw and Sett were elected.

During questions arising from his report, the Hon. Sec. explained that only the Charterhouse area would be involved and that it was likely that the Waterworks might dispose of the land eventually.  The Hon Treasurer's report followed.  In reply to questions, he agreed that the club could afford to complete the new hut and doubted the necessity for holding a large bank balance.  The club's money was there to be used for the benefit of club members.  He hoped to see more of it spent on tackle.

The Caving Secretary announced that a large total of trips had been recorded.  Of these, 42 trips had been to Swildons; 37 to Cuthbert' and 14 to Eastwater.  The club had assisted in two diving operations and the rescue trip in Swildons. The highlight of discovery this year had been that of the September Series in Cuthbert's.  No new caves had been opened, although digging members were active.  There had been little progress in the surveying of Cuthbert's.  Trips to other areas had been organised, and the Caving Sec. felt that notices of future trips should continue to be published in the B.B.

The Climbing Secretary regretted that he had been out of touch, but assured the meeting that climbing activities were still going on at the usual rate.

The Tackle Officer said that there was little to report.  Three ladders had been made this year and we now have 120’ of standard ladder. The Chairman asked if this was enough. The meeting felt that it probably was. Geoff Mossman asked how much lifeline we had.  We have 120’ of full weight nylon.  Ian Dear asked about tethers.  One spreader has been permanently attached to a ladder.  There should be about three others.  In reply to the question about tools, the Tackle Officer said that some tools were available.  Ian proposed the purchase of a pick.

The Hut Warden gave his report.  The total bed-nights for the year were 1,160.  No comparison can be made with last year as the dates have been altered. He thought that, as long as we kept over a thousand a year, there was nothing to cause alarm.  A lot of work had been done on the Belfry.  He mentioned the new hut; the renovations and cleaning of the Belfry; the blanket laundering; the new steps and the drinking pool.  Questions cantered on the laying in of water by the local council.  Prew explained that mains water had been promised by October 1st, but had not yet been installed.  A vote of thanks to the Hut Warden, who is retiring from this position, was proposed by Keith Gardner.

The Belfry Bulletin report followed.  The Editor pointed out that he welcomed suggestions, explained that plans for the new style B.B. and hoped that it would be well supported.  The new cover, which was passed round, aroused mainly favourable comment.  Terry Marston said that the B.P.C. were thinking of copying the present style cover.

The Hon. Librarian in a brief speech pointed out that not a single book had been borrowed or returned since the last A.G.M.  It was agreed to try to stimulate member’s interest in the club library.

Under "Any other business", the subject of advertising climbing trips in advance was raised.  Geoff agreed to look into it and fixed a date for the first such trip.

New proposed that all rubbish should be removed from the Belfry site, and possibly destroyed at the Hut Warden's discretion.  Food should be destroyed in any case. The meeting agreed with the sentiments expressed, but agreed to leave it to the Hut Warden.

Terry Marston pointed out the seriousness of leaving wet caving gear stored in a hut.  Spontaneous combustion could easily occur.

Ian mentioned the recent M.R.O. appeal.  It was agreed to leave this matter to the committee.  Keith Gardner volunteered to act as M.R.O. Warden.  This was agreed to by the meeting. .

Mike Jones announced that he and Judy are renovating the Belfry First Aid box.

Roger Stenner raised the question of club surveying equipment.  He suggested that the purchase of a theolodite which could measure angles to 6 minutes of arc.  The Chairman asked for views.  Alfie pointed out that angles tend to close better than distances on present astrocompass surveys in his experience.  Prew thought that most surveyors would prefer to buy their own instruments and this was generally agreed.  Ian pointed out that the setting up of the sort of instrument Roger had in mind would be a complicated business and Alfie said that the scale of the average cave survey was not large enough for such an instrument to be worth while.

A suggestion was made by Daphne that articles printed in the B.B. should include the date such articles were originally sent in.  Alfie replied that if the authors included such dates, he would print them.

A vote on whether a yearly index to the B.B. should be printed was defeated by 7 votes to 6."

Prew mentioned that he had an offer of a hot water heater.  It was agreed to use an immersion heater.

The meeting ended with a discussion on possible B.E.C. trips abroad next year.

1960 Committee and Club Officers.

A complete list of club officers is given below.  Main posts as required by the constitution are in capitals.  Committee members also in capitals.

Committee Chairman                        R.A. SETTERINGTON
HON. SECRETARY                          R.J. BAGSHAW
HON. TREASURER                          R.J. BAGSHAW
CAVING SECRETARY                     C.A. MARRIOTT
CLIMBING SECRETARY                  G. MOSSMAN
TACKLE OFFICER                           N. PETTY
HUT ENGINEER                              B. PREWER
Deputy Hut Wardens                        B. PREWER and A. COLLINS
Editor, Belfry Bulletin                        A. COLLINS
Postal Department, Belfry Bulletin     B. PREWER and Brenda
Printing, Belfry Bulletin                     A. SANDALL and C.A. Gardner
M.R.O. Representative                      K. Gardner
Hon. Librarian                                  J. Ifold
Assitant Librarian                             S.M. HOBBS
Spares sales                                   C.A. MARRIOTT
Hon. Specialist                                S.M. HOBBS
HUT WARDEN                                 R.A. SETTERINGTON

Library.

The Club Library, containing many interesting books, is open to members on the FIRST THURSDAY of every month at the clubroom in REDCLIFFE HALL.  During the other three weeks, the Assistant Librarian, SID HOBBS will be in the club and you can make arrangements to borrow books with him. We have some very good books on CAVING, CLIMBING, TRAVEL and many other subjects in the library.  Have YOU ever borrowed a book??  You have paid your sub.  Why not get your moneys worth??

Climbing.

The Climbing Secretary, Geoff Mossman is going to get up a trip to North Wales on the 21st NOVEMBER.  Contact him for further information.  He is at club most Thursdays or write to Bob Bagshaw.

Belfry.

Have you got any old Caving clothes, food, sleeping bags and that you don’t see very often??  If you have, BEWARE!  The Hut Warden may dispose of them if in bad condition or they may be used by others at his discretion.  In case of doubt, see or write to Sett or either of his deputies.

A Preliminary Survey of the Caves of the Isle of Wight

by P.A.E. Stewart.

General Geological Features.

The detailed geology of the island is obtainable from the Ordnance Survey One Inch Geological and also from the Regional Handbook, “The Hampshire Basin."  Other sources are, “A Short Account of the Geology of the Isle of Wight” in memoirs of the Geological Survey, 1931, page 149 by H.J. Osborne White.

In general, the area to the North of a line drawn from the Needles to Bambridge is Oligocene and Eocene and the North coast from Headon towards Cowes has the occurrence of a great deal of clay known locally as 'Blue Slipper'.  There appears to be various well known Oligocene occurrences in the Headon beds, Osborne beds, Bambridge beds and their age is 50 to 35 million years. In this northern area, a synclinal axis (the Bouldner axis) enters from the mainland at Halstead, traverses to Newport, and leaves at St. Helens.  The adjacent anticline into the south begins at Totland, traverses the island almost due east and leaves at Sandown, lying mostly in a belt of chalk and Selbornian.

Below this belt, the island is mainly composed of Lower Greensand with local patches of Wealden from Compton Bay to Brightstone in the west and locally at Sandown in the east.

From Chale to Luccombe Bay in an irregular shape, lies a lower patch of chalk.  The Brixton Anticline lies across this lower section.

Caves in the Isle of Wight.

Hermit’s Hole.                    In the Bembridge limestone near Culver Cliffs is a small cave.  This may be reached from the cliff top by a steep and tortuous route.

Nostril Caves.                     These sea caves lie at the base of Culver Cliffs.

Barnes Hole.                      A sea cave.

Dutchman’s Hole.               This cave, I am informed, is more of an indentation in the cliff face than a cave.  It lies near Grange Chine and was named after the ‘Diana Japs’, a Dutch ship wrecked there in February 1830.

The Afton Down Caverns    These caverns lie on the anticline running east from Freshwater Bay, but although mentioned by Barker in a picturesque Illustrations of the Isle of Wight’ c.1831, they have not yet been re-identified.

Freshwater Cave (No 1)      This is a small sea cave with two entrances as shown on the plan below.  It lies in chalk beds.

Freshwater Cave (No 2)      This sea cave is the one generally known as Freshwater Cave and lies below the redoubt fort.  It has a length of sixty feet and a height of twenty feet.

Watcombe Bay Caves.       Two small caves.

Neptunes Caves.                These lie at the base of East High Down, the 800 foot high chalk cliffs.  The larger is 200 feet deep and the smaller is 90 feet deep.  In the earlier part of the nineteenth century, it was the practice to discharge a pistol in the larger cave to show the strength of the echo.

Bar Cave.                           This lies just below Tennyson’s Monument and is ninety feet in depth.

Frenchman’s Hole.             This cave lies to the west of ‘The Nodes’ and ‘New Dutch Point’ and so the story goes was named from an escaped prisoner of war who uselessly concealed himself here until starvation killed him.  The cave is about ninety feet in depth.

Lord Holmes Parlour Kitchen and Cellar.        These are three scenic features of the coast but whether they are actual caves is not very clear.

Ree’s Hole.                         This comes under the same category.

Needles Cave.                    This cave lies below the High Down rocket site, and appears to be quite extensive. Reports give the depth as 300 feet. Unfortunately, it is difficult of access and the cliffs above are very unsafe with frequent falls.

Needles Rock Cave.           There are reports of a cave in one of the Needles rocks used as a store by the lighthouse keepers.

Other Caves.                      Artificial caves exist in the ground below the rocket site where there are many galleries, including an eighty foot lift shaft and an underground fresh water reservoir.

The caves of the Isle of Wight are mostly chalk sea caves, but provide a Mendip exile with a few happy hours.

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The Belfry Bulletin. S.J. Collins, 33 Richmond Terrace, Clifton, Bristol 8.
Secretary.  R.J. Bagshaw, 699 Wells Road, Knowle, Bristol 4.

Editorial

Most members will have read, in the June issue of the B.B. a report on a meeting held between representatives of most of the Mendip caving clubs and a representative of the Bristol Waterworks.  Again, most members will be familiar by now with the fact that an increasing number of Mendip caves will be eventually owned and controlled by the Waterworks, who are quite prepared to allow caving to continue providing they can deal with a single representative body.

This situation was discussed at the last committee meeting at which it was felt that it would be of advantage if we, as a club, could formulate our ideas on the sort of body we should like to see and the way we think it could act as the agent of the Waterworks as an intermediary between it and the caving clubs.

To this end, we are publishing this month, an article containing one such suggestion, which we hope will stimulate discussion among members and others.  We must make it quite clear, however, that this article expresses the opinions of the author as an individual and should in no way be taken to represent the official views of the B.E.C. committee or the club as a whole.

We shall look forward to receiving correspondence as a result of this somewhat controversial article and hope to print as much as possible in next month’s magazine.  If there is not room all the replies, a selection will be published concentrating on these putting forward opposing points of view.  In any case, all such replies will be handed to the committee, whether published or not.

Our Annual General Meeting occurs after next month’s B.B. and before the next meeting with the Waterworks, so that all members will have an opportunity to help formulate the eventual policy of the club on this matter.

In view of the importance of this subject, we trust that readers will approve cur decision to devote the main part of this and next month’s B.B. to giving it the good airing we feel it needs at this stage.

"Alfie."

August Committee Meeting

In addition to the subject mentioned above, the August committee meeting discussed the creosoting of the Belfry, the completion of the kitchen renovations, the club projector and the Dinner.  The main water will soon be installed, as Bob has received a reply from the council. More C links are available for tackle. Club ties will soon be organised, but not in time for the dinner.  It is hoped to get the roof on the new hut before the winter.  Work is proceeding on the Coase Memorial Tablet, and the following new members were elected: - R.J.H. Bunce, R. Eyles, R. Casling and A.C. Davidson.

Personal

Congratulations to Ken Dobbs on recently becoming a father; George Honey, whose wife has presented him with a second daughter and to Tom and Rusty, who also have a daughter.

More congratulations art best wishes to Bob Price and John Stafford on their respective weddings. We don't know if they will be married by the time this B.B. comes out, but they have arranged the usual celebratory barrels of beer for the 26th of September at the Hunter’s!

Classified Advertisements.

For Sale:  Large box s/c with fittings for spring frame A.M.C. machines.  Any offer considered.  Get in touch with George Honey, c/o Mr. Giddings, Hemingford Grey, Huntingdonshire.

An Approach to the Problem of a Committee to Control Caves Owned by the Bristol Waterworks

by S.J. Collins.

Before writing the suggestion which follows, the author has assumed several points.  There are summarised formally below:-

1.                  That the reader is acquainted with the reasons for the necessity of the existence of a single authority to act as agent of the Bristol Waterworks Company.

2.                  That, while a strict control of their caves may not be required by the Waterworks, it is prudent to assume that it might be, and to work out a method of control which would work in even the most restrictive situation.

3.                  That the most generally acceptable form of overall authority would take the form of a committee.

4.                  That, within the framework of such a committee, the individual clubs would wish to preserve their own character and existence, and would wish for a minimum of direction and interference from the committee.

5.                  That, since no two caves are alike, it is reasonable to suppose that arrangements concerning them may also be unlike each other.

6.                  That, for the good of caving as a whole, due consider¬ation should be given to the past achievements of individual clubs and to the need for stimulating more discovery, exploration and other work.

7.                  That, however, certain basic rights of access be accorded to all cavers, whatever their interests, with minimum restriction of freedom or initiative.

If the above assumptions are granted, the problem of combining them into one working, practical solution becomes a complicated problem.  No apology is therefore made for the complication of the suggestion made later.

In particular, the assumptions can only be combined into one suggestion by recognising that some areas of agreement will exist between clubs, and by allowing a solution which permits a degree of disagreement within a general framework of agreement.

An idea of the extent to which different approaches exist at the moment will be apparent on examination of individual's views on such questions as the leader system, the relative importance of the preservation of formations against freedom of exploration, and the right of a club to control a cave which it originally discovered.  The suggestion which follows admits that such differences exist and outlines a possible method whereby they need pot form an insuperable barrier to the formation of an overall controlling body.

The Suggestion.

1.                  The Committee shall consist of one representative from each of the recognised Mendip caving clubs.  Each club shall, however, elect two or even three representatives, only one of whom shall attend any one meeting of the committee.

2.                  The Committee shall meet quarterly.  A chairman shall be taken from the clubs' representatives in rotation.

3.                  The committee shall elect a secretary, who shall be responsible for recording and distributing all necessary paperwork and arranging dates and places of meetings.

4.                  The quorum at such meetings shall be four fifths of the total representation.  However, if any club fails to attend two meetings in succession, that club shall be deemed to have attended the second such meeting for the purposes of counting a quorum only.

5.                  Each club shall register, in writing, the digs on Waterworks property which it is working or intends to work.  During the course of such a dig or digs, the working club shall have sole rights with the exception of the provisos in section 9.

6.                  Other clubs may request permission, at any quarterly meeting, to take over or assist in a dig.  The Chairman shall then ask the original club for a statement of progress and future intention.  Should any disagreement arise, the matter shall be dealt with in accordance with section 10.

7.                  A dig shall be known as a cave when either the digging club announce a successful penetration of a reasonable cave system or a simple majority of the committee agree that a cave has, in fact, been entered.

8.                  At this stage, the club or clubs involved must submit, in writing, a proposal to the committee, and must renew it on demand from the committee thereafter at intervals of not less than six months.  The proposal must include the club's arrangements for the distribution of keys and must include access arrangements for other clubs, although this may not necessarily include permanent holding of keys by other clubs at this stage.  In all cases of proposed restrictions of any kind, reasons must be given.  These may be dictated by the future of the cave, gear left in the cave, etc.

9.                  In all cases, however, members of other clubs shall have a right to participate in trips organised by the discovering club provided they agree to be bound by any conditions imposed by that club.  These conditions shall not include the taking of photographs, on which there shall be no restrictions.  Other clubs may also publish accounts or descriptions of trips so undertaken by their members.  It should be made clear, however, that the work is not that of their own club by suitable acknowledgements.

10.              In all cases, the proposal submitted, and all subsequent proposals, must be agreed by the committee.  However, since the proposing club or clubs are likely to wish to included some restrictions, and giving due consideration to the fact that they discovered the cave, the voting shall be biased in favour of the club proposers in such a manner that shall require four fifths of the remaining members of the committee to vote against it before the proposal may be overruled.

11.              In the event of a proposal being overruled, the Chairman shall ask for amendments form the floor of the meeting.  He may also act as a member and propose an amendment himself.  Voting on such amendments shall be in accordance with section 10.

12.              In all cases, the Chairman shall also act as a member of the committee.  While voting as in section 10, he shall merely exercise his club veto.  In all ether cases, he shall also have a casting vote.

13.              The arrangements of sections 8, 9, 10, 11 and 12 shall be applied by the committee to all existing caves as they come under the ownership of the Waterworks.  Where more than one club has been involved in the discovery or enlargement of the system, either a joint proposal or a number of separate proposals may be submitted.  In the case of separate proposals, each proposing club shall have voting power as in section 10 divided by the number of clubs involved.

14.              Existing caves coming under the ownership of the Waterworks for which no club has any particular claim shall form the subject of a proposal by the committee which shall be agreed by a simple majority vote.

15.              The access to any of the Waterworks caves shall be conditional on acceptance of the rulings of the committee at all time and in all cases.

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I should like to add one last point.  As an individual, I should much prefer to see the existing state of affairs go on, and regret the situation which has led to the compiling of the suggestion above. If we have to have some sort of control, however, I think it will have to be on the lines of the above suggestion.

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We have received the following from Johnny Ifold: -

In 1952, a club member had a new Matchless 500 Twin.  While running it in, he was pushed over by a cow (one with four legs) and was landed in dock.  He now has a 1959 Matchless Twin, and on the 17th June was again pushed over by a cow, but this time didn't land in dock.

Why is it that cows like pushing over Matchless Twins?  Or is it the rider?

Third time lucky!

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DON'T FORGET to come to the A.G.M. at 2.30 Saturday, October 3rd at Redcliffe Hall, followed by the Dinner at the Cliff Hotel, Cheddar the same day.

Raiders Rift

by Raymond Winch ( East Devon Caving Group.)

In the autumn of 1956, a group of scout speleos began a systematic search for caves in the limestone area of East Devon.  This search is being rewarded with more success than was anticipated.  Early this year, others wished to join the work and it was becoming apparent that the original cavers would not longer be able to act together as scouts, so the East Devon Caving group was formed.

Where are at present five known caves in the area.  Outstanding among them is Raiders Rift (Nat. Grid. 31/052169) which was discovered on February 2nd 1958, under the leadership of Pat Temple-West and Ray Winch. Its original very small entrance was found on a ledge thirty five feet up the exposed face of a quarry.

Raiders' Rift is some 1,200 feet in length and consists basically of a number of high narrow rift chambers and tight solution passages running parallel and running about N.W. from the entrance. These are connected at right angles in three places.  Above the two principal shafts, which are about two thirds of the way down the cave, there is a good deal of orange flowstone. Below the shafts there is only rock and earth.  The cave is comparatively dry.

The entrance chamber is some thirty feet high, but can be climbed to a greater height by going round shelves of rock.  On the south side of the entrance chamber is a shaft which descends through a small chamber and by a grotto containing helictites to the floor of the Boulder Chamber some twenty seven feet below.  Boulder Chamber is by far the finest in the cave.  Enormous boulders mount upwards from the bottom of the shaft, and many displaced stalagmite bosses suggest that this chamber once had a false floor, which was later smashed by a great rock fall from the N.W.

On the south side is a particular fine flowstone grotto, which descends below the floor to another chamber.  Underneath Boulder Chamber is the maze, which consists of a number of muddy crawls and short but steep climbs.  Beyond Boulder Chamber are some more spacious chambers.  The upper and lower parts of the cave are sharply defined by two pitches of twenty seven and twenty eight feet, which lead into two parallel rift chambers.  These are connected at the far end.  The highest of these rifts is fifty feet.  Eventually the cave terminates in a tight passage which runs along the anticline and is perpendicular to the general lie of the cave.  This passage is itself crossed by three small rifts and bridged by two others.

There are several likely places in which the cave may be extended.  Notably at the S.W. end of anticline passage and downwards at the junction of the two major rifts.  A grade 5 survey has been completed by Phillippe Trabes.  A simplification of the plan from this survey will be found on page 5 of this B.B.  Survey sheets can be obtained from the E.D.C.G. price 5/-

Unfortunately, Raiders Rift is situated in an active quarry.  Already blasting has affected the Entrance Chamber to a considerable extent. The quarry owners insist that cavers should give notice of their visits to the rifts.  E.D.C.G. would be grateful if visitors would co-operate by first getting in touch with the secretary, Raymond Winch, 1 Stanley Villa, Crewkerne Road, Chard, Somerset.

Annual General Meeting

To be held at Redcliffe Community Centre at 2.15pm on sat. 3rd October 1959

AGENDA

1.                  Election of Chairman

2.                  Collection of ballot papers

3.                  Collection of member’s resolutions

4.                  Election of tellers for ballot

5.                  Adoption of minutes of last annual general meeting

6.                  Hon. Secretary’s report

7.                  Hon. Treasurer’s report

8.                  Caving report

9.                  Climbing report

10.              Tackle report

11.              Belfry report

12.              Library report

13.              Belfry Bulletin

14.              Member’s resolutions

15.              Any other business

The meeting will be followed by the ANNUAL DINNER to be held at the Cave Man Restaurant, Cheddar.  A coach has been arranged to start from Redcliffe after the A.G.M.

B.B. Digests

Have still not been sent to those who ordered them by post.  We apologise for this, but the Editor has been away for ten days on business and is even more behindhand than usual as a result.

Financial Statement for Eight Months to the Thirty First August 1959

Annual Subscriptions

 

 

£  59- 2-3

Belfry:

Receipts

£57-  6-  2

 

 

Less Expend

£45-  0-  2

£  12- 6- 0

Annual Dinner:

Receipts

£48-13-  6

 

 

Less Cost

£45-  9-  0

£    3- 4- 6

Redcliffe Hall:

Levy

£  19-  5-10

 

 

Less Hire

£   10- 0-0

£    9- 5-10

Caving Report and B.B. Sales:

 

 

£    5-11- 6

Post Office Savings Bank Interest

(2 years)

 

£    5- 7-11

Deficit:

 

 

£   44- 0- 2

Donations:

 

 

£    3-16-10

 

 

 

£ 142-14- 9

Belfry Bulletin:

Stencils, paper

£  27-  9- 5

 

 

Postages

£    9-  5- 3

£  36 -14-8

Public Liability Insurance

 

 

£    8-10- 0

Tackle

Expenditure

£   11-17-5

 

 

Less Levy

£    1-  7-0

£   10- 10-5

Tackle Store, changing room & park.

 

 

£   71- 4- 6

Postages, Stationary, etc

 

 

£    3-  2- 9

Cave Research Group Subscription

(2 years)

 

£    2-10- 0

M.R.O. Donation

 

 

£    2-  2- 0

Sundries

 

 

£    4-  3- 0

Goods for Resale:

Expenditure:

£  20-11- 4

 

 

Less Sales

£  17-16-11

£    2-14- 5

 

 

 

£142-14- 9

 

 

 

 

Total Club monies @ 1st January, 1958

 

 

£157-18- 3

Less Deficit as above

 

 

£  44- 0- 2

 

 

 

£113-18- 1

 

 

 

 

Post Office Savings Bank Account 31.8.58

 

£112-17- 9

Cash in hand 31.8.58

 

 

£   1-  0-  4

TOTAL CLUB MONIES AT 31ST AUGUST 1958

 

£113-18- 1

Special Notice - 1960 Committee.

The following nominations have been received by the Hon. Sec, for the 1960 Committee: - A. Sandall; S. Hobbs; G. Mossman.

Since a total of six members of the 1959 committee have expressed their willingness to stand again, the total number of candidates for the 1960 committee is nine, and an election is therefore unnecessary.

The 1960 Committee will therefore consist of: - R.J. Bagshaw, R.A. Setterington, A. Collins, N. Petty,   B. Prewer, A. Sandall, C.A. Marriott, S. Hobbs and G. Mossman.

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We regret that we have insufficient room to publish a letter from Jack Waddon this month.  We will include it in November's

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The Belfry Bulletin.  S.J. Collins, 33 Richmond Terrace, Clifton, Bristol 8.
Secretary.  R.J. Bagshaw, 699 Wells Road, Knowle, Bristol 4.

 

 

Editorial

No, you weren’t missed off the list for the November B.B. – There wasn’t one.

This is the first time since we took over the running of the B.B. that we missed an issue – just as we were in sight of beating the record for the regularity of the publication, too! The thing that finally had us baffled was a series of accidents to the duplicator.  After four hours work; nearly a ream of scrap paper, and not one decently printed page to show for it, we finally gave up.

However, good has come of all this.  This B.B. and, we hope, ALL FUTURE B.B.’s will be printed on a modern, all electric, dreaded automatic machine.  The pages of this one that were already printed were done at the rate of one page every four minutes.  This compares with at least two men working quarter of an hour on the old machine for the same result.  All those long suffering members which have had the bad luck to handle the club duplicator will know what a wonderful feeling it was to stand beside the machine and watch identical printed copies coming out like machine gun bullets!

November’s B.B. was to have been the last one to have the now familiar blue cover.  This distinction is now taken by the October issue. This copy is the last one to be printed on the old size – quarto- and we hope, in honour of the occasion, to make this the biggest B.B. ever to be published so far.  You will consider that this is written before it is all printed, you realise that we are sticking our necks out at this stage.  However, we hope it turns out all right, and it only remains for us, on behalf of all members of the B.B. Editorial board to wish all our readers a very Happy Christmas.


 

Caving Log

For September, October and November 1959.

5th Sep.

Swildon’s.  Photographic trip round Upper Series.  Party, N. Brooks, Ron Woodford, R. Hancock, C, Gallen and G. Hobby.

6th Sep.

Swildon’s II.  Tourist trip. Party, N. Brooks, and as for previous trip above.  It was found that the guide wire in Sump I was corroded and it was broken on the return trip.  There is now no guide wire.

12th Sep.

Agen Allwedd.  Party, N. Petty and George Honey.  Photographic trip to Main Chamber

13th Sep.

Swildon’s.  Party, D. Greenwood, J. Davey (B.P.C.) A. Whittingham, R. Wakefield, P. Davies and Norman Humphries.  Tourist trip to Sump I.  Then up into Tratman’s Temple and St. Paul’s Series and Mud Sump to head of Blue Pencil Passage.  Still a moderate amount of water about.

16th Sep.

Swildon’s.  Party, D. Greenwood, J. Davey (B.P.C.).  Photographic trip to the end of Barne’s Loop.  Still no water until the bottom of the 40’ pitch.

17th Sep.

Swildon’s.  Party as above.  Upper Series.  Down via the Wet Way and out via the Long Dry Way.

19th Sep.

Swildon’s.  Party, R. Lewis, A. Knight and three visitors.  Down the Wet Way to Sump I.  A very pleasant trip with no difficulties.

20th Sep.

St. Cuthbert’s.  Party, Alan Coase, Colin Knight and Norman Petty.  To sump via Upper Traverse and High Chambers.  Five inches of airspace in the sump.

21st Sep.

Swildon’s.  Party, J. Davey and D.A. Greenwood.  Down to Sump I.  A little water still going down the 20.  Sump dive was enjoyable, if cold.

23rd Sep.

St. Cuthbert’s.  B. Prewer, John Davey and D.A. Greenwood.  Quick evening to sump via Cascade Passage and Fingers.  Back via Curtain Chamber.

27th Sep.

Swildon’s.  Tourist trip to Mud Sump in dry conditions.  One of the party, using a “new method” for traversing the double pots, had a good soak!  Roger Burky and 6 members of B.C.S.S.

10th. Oct.

Swildon’s.  Party, Nigel Hallett, Colin Knight and two characters from Axbridge – names unknown.  Tourist trip to Series IV.  We took our time on the way in, with the usual struggle down Blue Pencil.  Sump IV was muddy and “cowsh” coming from the aven – from DIG?  A medium speed on the return trip.

7th Nov.

Swildon’s.  Ian Dear and some Rover Scouts frtom Weymouth.  Ian acted as Safety Officer.  Easy trip.  Lack of noise from the water made the cave a little eerie.

21st Nov.

St. Cuthbert’s.  Norman Petty and Roger Stenner went down to put a rawlbolt into the Wire Rift.  The rift was also measured for future wire to be fitted, also sites for more bolts found.

Note on the above.  A wave of MODESTY appears to have broken out amongst our active cares.  Why not hand YOUR name down to posterity by recording your trip in the log book? Apart from the fact that the club rules require you to, of course!


 

Letters to the Editor

9 Burleigh House
Beufort Street

Chelsea
SW3

Dear Sir,

Regarding your comments in the August B.B. about the origin of the word ‘ouijee’.  This particular spelling has been used by the Chelsea Speleological Society and London Speleological Group from time immoral and it has on occasioned some research to find its history.

In the classic case of Jones v Claire, the judge at one stage asked, “What is a ouijee?” and learned council opined that it might be the corruption of the word ‘ouija’, a board to obtain spirit messages, but did not suggest what the connection might be. 

Greaves “Famous Oaths” quotes the case, and adds the information the ouija is derived form the French and German words for ‘yes’.

Recent researches at Oxford have now produced the correct connotation. Dr. Caoutchouc, as famous for his revolting personal habits as for his epigean exploits, explains the matter in a manuscript ‘Caves and Orgies’.  If Martel is the father of Speleology, then Caoutchouc must have been the grandfather, for he formed the Exploration Societe Speleologique d’Orleans – or ESSO – in 1850, with Martel as a junior member.  He recalls that a member, whose name has been lost in iniquity, once achieved a degree of notoriety by continually saying, “I know that!” when anything was explained to him.  Thereafter, he was always referred to as “I know that!” or “Oui, j’y sais.”  The term eventually came to mean all newcomers and was shortened to “Oui j’y.”

It is not known who first brought it to England, but no doubt it was amongst the more repeatable phrases that floated up to the early lifeliners at Gaping Ghyll.  English has no sound to match ‘j’y’ and it has become altered in consequence to ‘jee’.  Similarly the ‘goon’ in goon suit is a corruption of the French Goudron, meaning pitch and ‘trog’ is an abbreviation of the French ‘trougge’ meaning of a ruddy countenance, i.e. bloody cheek.

I am available to answer any similar entomological problems.

Yours etc.
Harry Pearman,
Editor, C.S.S./L.S.G. Journal

Editor’s Note.    The name ‘Pearman’ is, of course, a corruption of the name ‘Pairman’, meaning a man who makes a hobby of pairing unlikely words together.

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32 Chaworth Road
West
Bridgeford
Nottingham

Sir,

Perhaps you would be good enough to print this letter in our esteemed bull.  B.E.C. members are welcome at the above address with b. & b. GRATIS – WELL, NOT QUITE.  Let’s say 40/- single, 92/6 double.  Comfortable beds on coal in cellar.  Homely smell of gas in cellar supplied at nine pence extra.  Food, miscellaneous and various.  Drink – 1953 Hock; 1952 Barsac; 19?? Chianti; 1958 Mendip Elderflower (Petty/Stenner/Falshaw).  Regret no screech, only a mock Norfolk brew.  Wild beer only on draught, various brands of bottles available.  Free parking (no lights) in front of genuine corrugated iron Bethel wot don’t ‘arf rattle when it rains.  Cigarettes by Abdul.  Patrons are requested to leave quietly when the landlord calls for the rent. Recreational pursuits: -Swallet digging in the back garden – Price one shilling an hour.  Next year we plan to hold a grand swallet digging week with prizes for the most attractively finished plot.  Potatoes, cabbages, etc. are to be supplied free for putting round the edges.  L.B.C.R. unknown; A.A., six stars at least.  R.A.C. ditto. Running water everywhere.

                                    Cheers
                                     Chris F and Wife

Editor’s note:     We were, unfortunately, unable to reproduce the genuine thumbprint which was superimposed on Chris’s signature on the original.  N.B. We understand that the abbreviation L.C.B.R. stands for Lady Chatterbox’s Rating.

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Miners Hostel
Huntley
New Zealand

I spent last Easter hunting with a Maori friend and had a terrific weekend.  The country was beautiful and we bagged 3 deer and one pig, not to mention shooting the trout in the lake, and drinking a fair quantity of beer.  My friend’s folk held a ‘hange’ for us, which roughly translated means a big oven.  A hole is dug in the ground and a fire lit in it. Then stones are put in the fire and when it has died down, the ashes are taken out and the meat and vegetables put on the hot stones.  It is then covered with a cloth and earth.  The meal is then left to cook for about two hours.  The ‘hange’ consisted of two sheep and half a pig.  About thirty friends and relatives ate it and there was not a single scrap left!  The pakika’s contribution was a fair quantity of ale and a good time was had by all.

The hunting was all done on horseback.  I had never been on a horse before, but I was persuaded that there was nothing to it. It was fair enough on the flat, but the guide quite suddenly disappeared down the side of a hill as steep as the side of Snowdon.  Needless to say, I finished up flat on my back at the bottom.  However, I had a wonderful time.

Incidentally, I came across a strange thing here.  Vicky, my friend, used the word ‘weegee’ for trippers.  I don’t think it is Maori, but it may have originated here.

                                    John Lamb.

The last letter was part of a letter written by our own New Zealand Lamb to Ian.  Johnny said we could publish it and it is good to hear that he is enjoying himself out there.  What about the derivation of the word ‘weegee’ now, Harry (ed.)

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39 Colbrook Ave
Hayes
Middlesex

Dear Sir,

I should like to say how pleased I am to receive the B.B. up here.  It helps to keep me informed on club matters and also has a circulation of about twelve L.S.G./C.S.S. members.  Now for some news.

From the 24th July to the 3rd August last, some real effort was put into the third choke in Agen Allwedd. To date, there have been three trips. The third choke consists of a very large boulder fall blocking the streamway, which is this shape: -

 

The fall is very unsafe, and explosives may have to be used to settle it.

                                    Yours
                                    “Scottie” (B.M. Scott)

Thanks Scottie.  I expect your news is a little out of date by now, but it is very welcome as we have no account written yet on any of the club Aggy Aggy trips.  We hope top be able to print something soon!

Pyrenees 1960 - Summer School.

A fortnight's holiday course on the painted caves of France will be held in August 1960, based at Foix, in Ariege. Accommodation of hostel type; food; transport from Bristol to Foix; etc are all included in a charge not to exceed £35.  This is being organised by the W.E.A. through Ted Mason and provisional applications MUST be made to P.C. Fryd, W.E.A. office, 7 Nicholas St,, Bristol 1,  by December 31st at the latest.

Mendip Rescue Organization.

Some years ago, a list was prepared giving details of members who would be prepared to turn out in the event of a ¬large scale rescue operation.  It is intended to revise this list and bring it up to date. Would any member so inclined please give me full details of address; home and business telephone numbers, and transport available.

K.S. Gardner.   (M.R.O. Rep.)

New Addresses.

Since printing the list of members at the end of this B.B., some of the unknown addresses have come to light they are:-

            276       J.M. Stafford, 24 Alma Road, Clifton, Bristol 8.
            342       R.J. Price, 2 Weekes Road, Bishop Sutton, Somerset.
            104       M. Hannam, "Myndeep" Wstward Drive , Mariners Gardens, Pill, Somerset.

This leaves Peter Stewart, Roger & Daphne Stenner and Barry Woof whose addresses we are at present unable to publish.  These will follow in the January B.B.


 

Belfry Binder

By “Sett”

When the Editor asked me to publish the recipe for Belfry Binder, I realised that there must be many of the present club members who have never tasted this nutritious dish, and many more who do not know of its origin or raison d’etre.

Priddy Stew – to use its original name – was first developed at Maine’s Barn, around the end of the war when food was rationed and meat, in particular, was not readily available.  The advantages of Priddy Stew as it was originally prepared were fourfold.  Firstly, a large number of persons can be catered for out of one pot, hence only one source of heat is required.  Secondly, when correctly cooked, it can be eaten with a fork.  Thirdly, it can be made with practically any available ingredients, and lastly, it can be cooked before going underground and warmed up ready for eating while the party is changing.

By the time the original Belfry was built on its original site, where the Shepton tackle hut now stands, Belfry Binder, as it had become known, was cooked almost every weekend, Most cavers could obtain some food off the ration, but these additions were not usually such that one man could eat them.  One caver might, for instance, bring a tin of corned beef or spam and no sugar, while another brought sugar but no butter.  In these circumstances, the preparation of Belfry Binder was an ideal answer to the catering problem.

By the time the Belfry was moved to its present site, there were several good shots in the club and rabbit became the traditional meat content.  Unfortunately, this source no longer exists, and we have to use tinned or butcher’s meat.  One other traditional ingredient, curry, also seems to be out of favour these days, but tastes vary and it will probably come back in the future.

As previously stated, there are no fixed ingredients for Belfry Binder, so a typical recipe would be given.  It was left up to the initiative of the cook to ring the changes of the various vegetables used.  A word of warning here.  Don’t try to use fish and various members of the cabbage family are best left out. Each person will eat the equivalent of about 17 ounces of raw material at an approximate cost of 1/- per head. This weight should be made up as follows: - 2oz of stewing steak; 7oz of potatoes; 2oz of onions; 6oz of other vegetables, well assorted and preferably fresh.  When totting up the total quantity of stew required, don’t forget those underground and any more latecomers; count these in ands then add a couple more for people you forgot.  The large aluminium pan at the Belfry, when full, hold sufficient for 17 people, so a typical recipe for this number will be given.  The pan will be full to within half an inch of the brim with this quantity.

Ingredients

2lbs Stewing Steak
2lbs Onions
2lbs Peas
1lb tomatoes, condiments and thickening
8lbs Potatoes
2lbs Carrots
1lb Beetroot

Method

Put 1½ inches of water in the pan with two level dessertspoonfuls of salt and one of pepper. Put the pan on the stove and light the gas.  Dice the meat into half inch cubes with a sharp knife and put them in the pan. Scrape and slice the carrots, and dice the beetroots and add to the pot.  At this stage, clean and add any other root vegetables except the potatoes. The preparation of the meat should take about ten minutes, by which time the water should be boiling.  The first lot of vegetables will take another twenty minutes.  During the next fifty minutes, continue preparing the other vegetables and then add all but half the potatoes.  Twenty minutes, add the remaining potatoes.  From this point, stir continuously until the last lot of potatoes are cooked.  This will take a further twenty minutes or so.  Just before serving, make two tablespoonfuls of bisto into paste and add to the stew.  Serve one large enamel mug full per person.  The stew is fully cooked when the wooden spoon will stand vertically for at least fifteen seconds.


 

Lady Chatterbox Cover

By Ann Gardner

We were pleased to receive recently, yet another of those revealing descriptions of how the other half lives.  This is the third in the series describing the Stately Clifton House of B.E.C. Members.

On Monday the 16th October 1959, BY INVITATION, Lord and Lady Chatterbox visited the home of Messrs Mosspan, Harvey and Tarling.  Upon entering, we were enticed into the kitchen and teacloths were thrust at us. We ignored them and proceeded to watch the Washing Up Ceremony, which is usually performed on alternate Sundays during the close season.  The decorations in the kitchen are many and varied with 29 pairs of tatty socks and 5 old ones.  Cooking appears to be done in B.P. Energol, and an equal amount of milk and pure meths appears to be drunk in this establishment.  We were offered some rather lumpy custard which was, however, politely declined, owing to an aversion to lumpy custard in any shape or form. The ceiling of this room is ‘orrid green and the place of honour is taken by a large gas stove (price 2/6) two regency type velvet chairs and three broken bits.  Proceeding into the hall, one is amazed at the number of climbing boots that can be used by so few feet.  If there were the number of feet per boot that there are boots, the number of socks in the kitchen would be easily explained!  Two hot water bottles only were in evidence.  It is presumed that the odd bed uses the two flat irons which were seen as foot warmers.  The lounge, two bedrooms and the bathroom open off the hall, which is the size of the average home’s living room.

The lounge is tastefully furnished with a dartboard, two gin bottles, five twisted red candles, two radios and one record player, one of which was working.  A novel idea was the hula hoop reclining in one corner.  After careful consideration, I could not see who uses it.  The floral decorations were somewhat unusual for a bachelor flat, comprising three drooping chrysanthemums and one deader.  At the far end of the room – the size is somewhat after the fashion of Mr. Collins’s residence – and one can walk for miles, a lonely beer mat poised upon the picture rail peered blearily at the one bar electric fire which valiantly pits its strength against the wintry blasts.  There are the usual chairs and bits scattered about and the walls are neatly papered with posters pinched from far away places like Severn Beach, Pill and Minehead.

The bedrooms are not very large.  Mr Tarling’s is very bachelorish.  Messrs Mossman and Harvey share a slightly larger room.  All there beds sagged somewhat in the middle, and Mr. Mossman pointed out the notches on each bed.  (I wonder what for!)  Messrs Mossman and Harvey have an interior window into the hall.  They take it in turns to watch the assorted climbing gear in the hall.  After all, it might get up and walk out one day.  The bathroom is the most gay and tastefully decorated room in the whole flat. It is mostly a ghastly blue with repulsive maroon ironwork.  To add to this, it has pink walls and green bits here and there.  The towels on that occasion were mauve and the bath is verdigris green with decayed soap trimmings.  In short, not a room in which one would wish to meditate on the future of the world.  We thanked Mr. Mossman for his ‘co-operation’ (he had no choice anyway) and left to visit Mr and Mrs Stafford.  We arrived and told that they were out.  Never mind. We don’t give up that easily!

Puzzle

Two cavers were holding an inquest on the seasonal festivities the night before.

 “I drank one more pint than you did,” said one, “but I can’t remember how many I drank.”

“We both drank beer and screech,” replied the other, “I remember thinking that the number of pints of beer I drank, the number of pints of screech I drank, the number of pints of beer you drank and the number of pints of screech you drank would make 210 if they were multiplied together.”

“That doesn’t help very much!”

“No, but one of us drank an even number of pints of screech and you drank more beer than I did.”

“Did I”

“Yes, you mentioned it as we were walking back to the Belfry.”

How many pints of beer and screech did each of them drink?


 

A Note on Continuous Flash Powder Igniters

By P.A.E. Stewart

During the course of a recent visit to South Australia, I had the good fortune to make contact with the Cave Exploration Group of South Australia, or C.E.G.S.A.

After a lot of talking shop on cave exploration, and caving matters in general, we came to the subject of equipment.  They had shown me a large number of excellent colour slides of the Nullarber Caves, and had mentioned the DIPROTODON.  Upon further questioning, the following facts were forthcoming: -

The DIPROTODON, a sketch which can be found on the next page, is an instrument named after an ancient marsupial hippopotamus, the bones of which are sometimes found in caves.  It is a continuous flash powder dispenser, giving an improved illumination efficiency by ejecting the flash powder though a flame of burning methylated spirits.

Using the DIPROTODON, one may not only take flash photos but also continuous cine films.  It would appear that the instrument was designed by the Hon. Henry Pairlie-Cunningham of the Victoria Cave Exploration Society.

Basically, it consists of a meteorological balloon attached to the end of a motorcycle exhaust pipe. The balloon has an attachment for inflation by means of a lilo pump.  The degree of inflation necessary varies with the length of run, but one should always ensure that the air exhausts before the flash powder to prevent a flashback.  The outflow of air is controlled by a valve operated by the trigger.  This trigger also controls the flash powder admittance valve, which lies at the base of the hopper.  The hopper is sealed at the bottom by a plug.

During operation, the air and powder valves are opened, and powder is blown out by the air from the balloon through the exhaust pipe and fishtail silencer.  Below the fishtail is a tray filled with methylated spirits which is fired before using the diptrodoton.  The flash powder is ejected through this hot flame and thus ignited at a higher temperature than would otherwise be obtained.

It would appear that the user would be faced with a terrific glare and would need to use welder’s goggles or some other protection for the eyes.  A better solution would be to provide the diprotodon with some form of reflector.  If any reader should build one of these devices, I should be very interested to know of the factor by which the normal guide number for flash powder is increased.

I should like to thank Bob Sexton of C.E.G.S.A. for his kindness in giving me the details of the diprotodon in Adelaide.

The Hookah

A smaller version of the diprotodon was described to me by Les Southwell of the Victorian Cave Exploration Society.  This was named the Hookah, for its similarity with the Indian pipe, though this one is rather more potent.

It comprises at Kodachrome tin with a hole ⅛” x ⅛” cut in the side.  On the top of the tin is a sweated copper tube with a mouthpiece of plastic or rubber tubing.  The copper tube extends downwards almost to the base of the tin, and terminates in a nozzle.  Below this nozzle, the flash powder lies in a deflecting bowl, on blowing through the tube, flash powder is agitated and ejected through the hole or jet at the side. This passes over a wick which has been soaked in methylated spirits and ignited.

Results are similar to those obtained by the diprotodon although on a smaller scale.

It would appear that both the above devices are prone to flashback, and some flame trap should be incorporated.  The Hookah seems prone to detonation of its contents, and great care should be exercised in experiments involving any device of this type.

I should be very interested in the results obtained with either of these instruments.  It is beleved that one may exist in the U.K. and belong to C.E.G.S.A. members Ken and June Lyon at 42 St. John’s Road, Walthamstow, London.

Editors Note:     Some years ago, a bloke called Johnny Rundell and myself played about with a gadget which continuously burnt magnesium ribbon.  I can describe the main pints of this if anyone is interested.

 

Proposed Combined Clubs Foreign Caving Expedition.

There appear to be many clubs who are anxious to partake in such an expedition for their summer holiday. The main advantages of a combined expedition would seem to be: -

1.                  Each club could lend some tackle to the expedition and is should be possible to tackle a major cave system.

2.                  Cheap travel rates could be obtained by block party booking.

3.                  There should be a good chance of obtaining a financial grant for such an expedition.

As a first step, the Northern Pennine Club propose to hold an initial meeting on December 5th, the purpose of which will be to elect an organising committee for the expedition. As soon as this committee has been elected, the N.P.C. as such will withdraw from direct organisation.

Should any B.E.C. members be interested, the N.P.C. will be pleased to send the club details of any further developments.  Members of the B.E.C. should contact Bob Bagshaw if they are interested, and he will then write for further details.


 

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Across

(1)        Presumably these did not leap or twitch! (5,4,6)
(9)        A high flying bird. (5)
(10)       See 19 down.
(12)       The club voted against one in this B.B. (5)
(13)       “No ruddy use…..” (3)
(14)       A dexterous move. (5)
(15)       Mary in the garden was related thus to her questioner. (5)
(16)       These of the earth are familiar! (5)
(22)       Contrasted in rhyme with an insect. (7,6)
(26)       Advice from Gil? (5)
(28)       Drink, or state the next morning! (5)
(30)       Presumably written on a brass plate. (1,4)
(31)       28.11 Commemorates a small scale variation of this. (3)
(33)       Another dexterous move. (5)
(34)       Reilly had one. (3)
(35)       We get some of these ‘upon the ordinary route’ (2-3)
(36)       The squire had not gone far when this occurred. (2.7.3.3)

Down

(1)        There’s a downtown………where the boys all go. (7)
(2)        I had a welsh bother of the shortened form of this name (6)
(3)        When 36 across occurred, it must have been quite a this in the passenger’s life! (5)
(4)        The man who talked to Ivy had no this. (4)
(5)        Found in a PealoO’Bells. (5)
(6)        Bert ‘Iggins was undoubtedly a this man. (5)
(7)        Descriptive of the tools associated with 1 across. (3,3)
(8)        Age of the passenger in 36 across. (7)
(11)       Vehicle associated with Plymouth. (7,4)
(16)       Oldfellows hold them. (5)
(17)       These 16 downs are sometimes seen on the 30 down. (5)
(18)       What ‘Enery did. (3)
(19)       See 10 across.
(20)       A type of this is heard at the Hunters sometimes. (3)
(21)       Two brothers owned one. (3)
(23)       A woman of Hitchin did this. (7)
(24)       He’d be made of wood without his head, but presumably he wasn’t.! (7)
(25)       Worn by 27 down types. (6)
(29)       Did the squire say this before lifting his hat? (5)
(30)       On which 24 down presumably lay. (5)
(31)       No need for the leading seaman to do this. (4)
(32)       These clues are useless if you can’t this. (4)


 

Annual List of Club Member’s’ Names and Addresses

This list which follows is that used by our Postal Department.  If your name is not on this list, or your address is incorrect, please let us know, as that may be the reason why your B.B. has been late or not sent at all.

418

S.F. Alway

102 Whiteladies Road, Clifton, Bristol 8

306

T Andrews

135 Danson Road, Bexley, Kent

412

T.O. Asquith

70 Albert Road, Pellon, Halifax

236

T. Attwood

4 Bridge Road, Shortwood, Nr. Mangotsfield, Bristol

20

R.J. Bagshaw

699 Wells Road, Knowle, Bristol 4

392

M.J. Baker

Morello, Ash Lane, Wells, Somerset

358

D.J. Balcombe

26 Bennett gardens, Norbury, London SW16

368

N. Barrington

53 St. George’s Drive, London SW1

290

R. Bater

2 Upper Perry Hill, Southville, Bristol 3

214

R. Bennett

3 Russetts Cottages, Backwell Common, Somerset.

390

J. Bennett

3 Russetts Cottages, Backwell Common, Somerset

370

W.L. Beynon

Lower Lodge, Weston Park Road, Weston park, Bath, Somerset

417

P. Bird

City Museum, Queens Road, Bristol

364

P.M. Blogg

1 Ridgeway Park, Ridgeway, Glos

336

A. Bonner

45 St. Alban’s Road, Westbury Park, Bristol 6

145

Miss S. Bowden-Lyle

51 Coronation Road, Bristol 3

320

F.R. Brown

13 Alexandra Road, Bath, Somerset

393

R.G. Brown

45 Blundell’s Road, Tilehurst, Reading, Berkshire

384

R.D. Brown

3 George Street, Taunton, Somerset

320

N Brooks

392 Victoria Road, Ruislip, Middlesex.

209

P. Burt

3 Manor House, Rothamsted, Harpendon, Herts

190

Mrs P. Burt

3 Manor House, Rothamsted, Harpendon, Herts

389

R. Burky

54 Sedgemore Road, Combe Down, Bath, Somerset

361

B. Busson

57 Southcote Rise, Ruislip, Middlesex

36

R. Brain

4 Lees Hill, Kingswood, Bristol

429

R Casling

51 Oakdale Road, Downend, Bristol

366

B.R. Chamberlain

102 Egerton Road, Bishopston, Bristol 7

231

N.D. Clark

3 St. John’s Crescent, Wainfelin, Ponytpool, Mon.

398

A.C. Coase

18 Headington Road, London SW18

211

Mrs C. Coase

P.O. Box 1510,m Ndola, Northern Rhodesia

89

S.J. Collins

33 Richmond Terrace, Clifton, Bristol 8

395

Cochrane

23368196 L/Cpl, Gordon Barracks, Bulford, Wiltshire

377

D. Cooke-Yarborough.

The Beeches, St. Briavels, Lydney, Glos

416

A. Colburn

69 North end, Clutton, Bristol

71

A.J. Crawford

3 Hillside, Harefield, Uxbridge, Middlesex

401

M. Cunningham

103 Staplegrove Road, Taunton, Somerset

405

F.G. Darbon

43 Arthur Henderson House, Fulham Road, Fulham, London, S.W.6

427

A.C. Davidson

57 Halsbury Road, Bristol 6

423

L.W. Dawes

113 Brooklands, Avenue, Sidcup, Kent

350

Mrs A. Davies

New Bungalow, Hancot Lane, Pentre, Queensferry, Flintshire

424

P.V. Davy

15 Hamilton Gardens, St. John’s Wood, London NW8

226

I. Dear

76 Reforne, Portland, Dorset

164

K.C. Dobbs

85 Fox Road, Pinhoe, Exeter, Devon

325

A.J. Dunn

70 The Crescent, Henleze, Bristol

331

J.A. Etough

116 Newbridge Road, Brislington, Bristol

322

B.M. Ellis

Oakmead, Cher, Minehaed, Somerset

263

D. England

28 Mendip Road, Bedminster, Bristol 3

426

P. Eyles

56 Cairns Road, Bristol 6

232

C. Falshaw

32 Chaworth Road, West Bridgeford, Nottingham

394

Mrs C. Falshaw

32 Chaworth Road, West Bridgeford, Nottingham

371

A. Fincham

Leeds University Union, Leeds 2

269

T.E. Fletcher

The Old Mill House, Barnack, Stamford, Lincs

278

G.A. Fowler

77 Kingshill Road, Knowle, Bristol 4

385

R. Francis

91a Oxford Gardens, Kensington, London SW10

404

A. Francis

53 St. Thomas Street, Wells, Somerset

251

K.S. Gardner

10a Royal Park, Clifton, Bristol 8

388

J. Goodwin

11 Glanarm Walk, Brislington, Bristol 4

434

D.A. Greenwood

53 Lingwood Road, Clapton, London E5

346

G.H. Griffiths

164 St. Johns Lane, Bristol 3

239

D. Gwinnel

34 Gatehouse Close, Withywood, Bristol 3

432

N.P. Hallett

67 Blendon Road, Bexley, Kent

104

M. Hannam

Address to follow

304

C.W. Harris

14 Market Place, Wells, Somerset

400

R. Hartley

19 Cowper Road, Redland, Bristol 6

4

D. Hassell

‘Hill House’, Moorlynch, Bridgwater, Somerset

372

M.J. Healey

24 Water Lane, Brislington, Bristol 4

373

S.M. Hobbs

135 Doncaster Road, Southmead, Bristol

387

G. Honey

Giddings Caravan Site, Hemingford Grey, Huntingdon

406

D. Hoskyns

128 Woodland Gardens, Isleworth, Middlesex

97

J. Ifold

Leigh House, Nempnett, Chew Stoke, Somerset.

150

P. Ifold

Sunnyside, Rectory Lane, Compton Martin, Somerset

363

M. Isles

33 Greenleaze, Knowle Park, Bristol 4

374

J.J. Jacobs

126 Bridge Lane, Golders Green, London NW11

279

J. Jenkins

49 Stoneleigh Road, Knowle, Bristol 4

340

R.L. Jenkins

5 North Street, Downend, Bristol

51

A.C. Johnson

Warren Cottage, Station Road, Flax Bourton, Somerset

225

M. Jones

389 Filton Avenue, Horfield, Bristol 7

267

Mrs M. Jones

389 Filton Avenue, Horfield, Bristol 7

285

U. Jones

3 Durham Street, Eslwich Road, Newcastle-on- Tyne.

433

J.F. Kembury

2 Newent Avenue, Kingswood, Bristol

289

D. Kemp

17 Becmead Avenue, Streatham, SW16

316

R.S. King

1 Lynmouth Road, Bristol 2

413

A.F.. Kitchen

1st Battalion Northamptonshire Regiment, B.F.P.O. 69

430

C.G. Knight

64 Norton Way, Isleworth, Middlesex

332

D.J. Lacy

31 Devon Grove, Whitehall, Bristol 5

260

J. Lamb

365 Filton Avenue, Horfield, Bristol 7

429

R. Lewis

Roseacre, Limpley Stoke, Bath, Somerset

275

C.A. Marriott

718 Muller Road, Eastville, Bristol 5

414

T. Marston

54 Pear Street, Kingston, Halifax, Yorkshire

106

E.J. Mason

11 Kendon Drive Wellington Hill West, Westbury-on-Trym, Bristol

383

P.J. Miller

130 Longmead Avenue, Bishopston, Bristol 7

334

D.W. Mitchell

2 Selwood Road, Frome, Somerset

339

G. Mossman

5 Arlington Gardens, Arlington Villas, Clifton, Bristol 8

308

K. Murray

17 Harrington Gardens, South Kensington, London, S.W.7

386

A. Nash

62 Silverhill Road, Henbury, Bristol

329

T.W. Neil

Orenda, Bradley Cross, Cheddar, Somerset

330

Mrs T.W. Neil

Orenda, Bradley Cross, Cheddar, Somerset

362

F. Nicholson

Fullbrook Cottage, 52 Friggles Street, Rodden Down, Frome, Somerset

 

T. O’Flaherty

Oldfield Park Lodge, Wells Road, Bath, Somerset

396

M.A. Palmer

Cathedral Coffee Tavern, St. Thomas Street, Wells, Somerset

245

J.S. Pembury

Grove View, Hambrook, Bristol

327

J. Pengram

4 Moffats Lane, Brookman’s Park, Hatfield, Herts

22

L. Peters

21 Melbury Road, Knowle, Bristol 4

160

N. Petty

12 Bankside Road, Brislington, Bristol

146

T. Pink

53 Burnthwaite Road, Fulham, London SW6

56

G. Platten

‘Rutherfield’, Fernhill Lane, New Milton, Hants.

337

B. Prewer

14 Egerton Road, Bath, Somerset

342

R.J. Price

New address to follow

291

D. Radmore

2 Dunkeld Road, Filton, Bristol

241

A.L.C. Rice

13 Wades Road, Filton, Bristol

391

P.A. Richards

164 Eastcote Road, Ruislip, Middlesex

344

T. Rich

Frontier Geophysical, Party 8, 207, 61st Avenue, Calgary, Alberta, Canada

411

K. Robbins

82 Eaton Valley Road, Luton, Beds

258

C.H.G. Rees

2 Burghill Road, Westbury-on-Trym, Bristol

157

Miss J.P. Rollason

157 Pen Park Road, Redland, Bristol 6

367

J. Rowley

52 Granby Hill, Clifton, Bristol 8

240

A. Sandall

35 Beauchamp Road, Bishopston, Bristol 7.

359

Mrs. A. Sandall

35 Beauchamp Road, Bishopston, Bristol 7.

237

B.M. Scott

39 Colbrook Avenue, Hayes, Middlesex

78

R. Setterington

4 Galmington Lane, Taunton, Somerset

356

Mrs R. Setterington

4 Galmington Lane, Taunton, Somerset

312

R. Setterington

86 Grand Drive, Raynes Park London SW20

403

A. Sidall

143 Love Lane, Heaton Norris, Stockport, Cheshire

425

J. Simonds

31 Springfield Lane, Teddington, Middlesex

414

C. Smith

48 Windsor Road Leyton, London E10

402

D.G. Soutar

12 Loring Road, Isleworth, Middlesex

276

J. Stafford

New address to follow

38

Mrs. I. Stanbury

74, Redcatch Road, Knowle, Bristol. 4.

1

T.H. Stanbury

6 Aubrey Road, Bristol 3

365

R. Stenner

New address to follow

381

Mrs. Stenner

New address to follow

60

P.A.E. Stewart

New address to follow

284

A. Thomas

Sandhill Special Residential School, Bishops Lydeard, Taunton, Somerset

379

D. Thomas

23585478, 58/18 Troop, 5th Royal Tank Regiment, Catterick Camp, Yorks

409

G.E. Todd

86 Kingsholme Road, Kingswood, Bristol

78

J. Tompsett

51 Rothmans Avenue, Great Baddow, Chelmsford, Essex

80

Mrs. D. Tompsett

51 Rothmans Avenue, Great Baddow, Chelmsford, Essex

326

E. Towler

11 St. Phillips Road, London E8

382

S. Tuck

Gently, East Knoyle, Salisbury, Wiltshire

79

R.M. Wallis

Swildons, 343 Upton Lane, Widnes, Lancs

397

M. Wheadon

2 Hulbert Place, St. Thomas Street, wells, Somerset

399

P.C. Wilson

Woodland Cottage, Wrington, Somerset

175

J. Waddon

7 Haydon Road, Taunton, Somerset

420

R. Winch

1 Stanley Villa, Crewkerne, Chard, Somerset

416

B. Windridge

71 Windfield Crescent, Lawrence Weston, Bristol

435

B. Woof

Address to follow

341

R.A. Woodford

80 Torrington Road, Ruislip, Middlesex

418

E.A. Woodwell

50 Glanfield Road, Beckenham, Kent

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OUR COVER. this year, for those who may be interested in such things, were drawn by a pukka commercial artist and printed by the offset litho process.  Considering that, as far as we know, he has never been down a cave, we think he got the 'atmosphere' very well, although his  cavers look too neatly dressed to be authentic!

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WE REGRET that one tradition of the Christmas B.B. of recent years - the inclusion of a poem by Sid Hobbs - has not been possible.  Rumour hath it that we might get one early in the new year.


 

The Use of a Barometer in Cave Surveying

By Roger Stenner

The altitude, or height above sea level, of a point, is a function of the air pressure at that point compared to that at sea level, the temperature and humidity of the air, and the local value of gravity.  Allowing for these quantities, the general formula connecting height and pressure reduces to: -

 

H =   +

 

Where: -

H

T

Po

go

gn

Wn

=

=

=

=

=

=

=

Increase in altitude between points 1 and 2.

Mean temperature in Fo

Air pressure in mb at point 1.

Air pressure in mb at point 2

Local value of gravity in C.G.S.W.

Mean value of gravity in C.G.S.W.

Water Vapour Pressure at to x Relative Humidity

Where h is measured in feet and Pm is the mean pressure between the two points in the same units as Water vapour Pressure.

Knowing the latitude and altitude of a cave in metres, we have:

G(sea level) = 978.85(1 + 0.005288sin2N - 0.000006sin22N)       where N is the latitude.

 

go = g(sea level) – 0.000309H + 0.000042kH        where H is the altitude and k is the density.

 

The correction for gravity is usually negligible, and is less than 0.1%.  A temperature error of 5oF gives an error of 0.9% and neglecting the humidity factor gives, at 50oF and 100% humidity, an error of 0.8%.  As an error of 0.05mb, one part in 20,000, gives an error of about 1.5 feet, it is most important that the barometer used should be accurately calibrated.  If a mercury barometer is used to calibrate it, it is important to apply all the necessary corrections.

A capsule aneroid barometer, loaned to the club for this purpose by Messrs Mechanism of Croydon, was used by the author, assisted by George Honey, in St. Cuthbert’s in August last. A series of readings were taken which it is hoped will add to the known data on the cave and help evaluate the usefulness of this barometer.

A number of selected stations, the air pressure and the time were noted.  The air pressure at the entrance was noted both on entering and on leaving the cave, so that a correction curve could be drawn, assuming a linear rate of change. To further check the method, readings were duplicated at one station in the cave, with a long time interval between the two of them.

The air temperature in the cave was found to be 10.5oC and temperature measurements have shown this value to be fairly constant. R.A. Setterington, on the 11th August, showed the temperature of most of the important risings on Mendip to be 10.5oC. The relative humidity in the cave has previously been shown to lie between 99% and 100% throughout the cave (See B.B. Nos 118 and 120).

The scale of the micrometer attached to the instrument enabled readings of 0.05mb to be distinguished. This is the equivalent to a vertical error of 1.5 feet.  Results were as shown overleaf: -

TIME

READING

CORRECTED READING

 

DEPTH

STATION

Hours

mb

mb

ft

 

1325

1345

1350

1400

1415

1515

1615

1622

2125

2145

2150

2153

2153

2200

2230

0010

992.85

994.80

996.25

998.45

1000.70

1001.05

1001.40

999.85

999.25

1006.10

1006.10

1005.50

1006.30

1006.60

1004.35

991.45

992.85

994.85

996.30

998.55

1000.60

1001.25

1001.80

1000.25

1000.25

1007.20

1007.20

1006.60

1007.40

1007.40

1005.45

992.85

0

55

95

157

218

231

246

203

203

393

393

377

399

407

346

0

Top of shaft.

Window into Arête Chamber.

Foot of Arête ladder.

Entrance to Wire Rift.

Foot of Upper Mud Hall ladder.

Quarry Corner mud slope.

Upper Traverse Chamber near Katchenjunga.

High Chamber, Catgut entrance.

High Chamber, Catgut entrance.

Main Stream, Plantation Junction.

Main Stream, Beehive.

Lip of Great Gour.

Gour Hall, Main  Stream.

Main Stream, First Sump.

Dinning Room table.

Entrance.

Accuracy of the Results.  The assumption of a linear rate of change of air pressure with time was borne out by the correspondence of the two corrected pressures in High Chamber. Nevertheless, readings taken during an atmospheric discontinuity, such as is caused by a thunderstorm, would not respond to such a correction.

Conclusions.  In normal conditions, it would appear that the instrument is capable of giving readings to something approaching the reading error of eighteen inches. In addition to its use as a depth measuring instrument, it would be useful to take a series of readings in unsettled weather when the barometric pressure is changing rapidly, at the entrance to a cave and deep within the system simultaneously. From these readings, any time lag between a pressure change at the surface and the deep cave would be measured. Another experiment which would be possible, in connection with an anemometer, would be to determine the pressure differences necessary to produce the string winds which are found in some parts of cave systems.  Finally, to confound all the critics, it would be worthwhile to compare barometric readings of depth with figures taken from an accurate survey of the same cave by conventional methods.

Conclusion

Well, that's it again! The end of the Christmas B.B.; this size of paper and this typewriter.  We’ve got a lot of work to do now before the next B.B. can come out. The stapling machine must be altered, the new typewriter must be got hold of, and the blocks for the cover must be finished and the printing organised.

So January's B.B. may be a bit late.  After that, the new arrangements should be working smoothly and we will make a great effort to get the B.B. out by the first Thursday of each month, as we did until recently.  So keep your fingers crossed, hope for the best and a Merry Christmas.

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THE BELFRY BULLETIN FOR CHRISTMAS 1959

Secretary; R.J. Bagshaw, 699 Wells Road, Knowle, Bristol 4.
Editor; S.J. Collins, 33 Richmond Terrace, Clifton, Bristol 8
Postal Department; B. Prewer, 14 Egerton Road, Bath, Somerset.